DUST Search - Extremely unfair advantage on Skim Junction Skirmish

Jade Tech wrote:

If you can somehow call down another sniper tank to pin the other guy on that mountain, you can lead a group of AV players into the northern hills. In those hills, you can become completely untouchable if you duck and weave right. After getting closer to the enemy hill, ambush the tank and make sure to block his escape.

Now I know what you'll say. "I can't call down a sniper tank because the other tank will destroy it first. (or you just haven't skilled into it.)" On maps like these, some vehicles and players turn invisible at certain distances (at least it does for me.). The tank won't be able to hit it, or just call it down behind a hill.

"But getting a squad of AV is difficult." It is, but if you really want to destroy that tank, you need AV gear and a lot of motivation. Long range attacking will not work (Unless you're really really really lucky, or the tank is really really really stupid.) Call down an LAV, or go into the hills and sneak up on the tank. About 6 AV grenades will take a gunnlogi down, and maybe only five for Madrugars, so bring a nanohive or extra people. Then, just unleash your weapons all at once.

This might seem like a lot to do, but CCP wanted to add that region for a reason, and I think it was to give snipers a place to finally snipe on that map. To me, it feels like every other match where a person gets up to a really high spot where they can't get hit long range (on top of buildings). The only way to get at them is to get up close and personnel, no matter the cost.

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JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming EoN. 439	Posted - 2013.05.25 18:02:00 - [1] - Quote Hello, I discovered an extremely dumb spot on Skim Junction Skirmish http://i.imgur.com/tqAQOje.jpg From this point you can see over the whole map, with 1 tank you can lock down all enemy vehicles. there is no safe spot for them. especially on the Communications Outpost version of Skim Junction. What was CCP thinking? you can only get there from 1 side and the tanker up there can easily hide from all enemy fire. During pubs this is not that big of a deal but this map is also in Planetary Conquest. I personally think this is a terrible thing. My request is that CCP turns that area into a redline or give the opposite a road to also get to the spot. Regards, JW v Weingarten
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1343	Posted - 2013.05.26 01:35:00 - [2] - Quote Damn, I remember that spot from several builds ago. Wonder why they brought it back.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 498	Posted - 2013.05.26 02:44:00 - [3] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Damn, I remember that spot from several builds ago. Wonder why they brought it back. they made the redzone wider they never removed it just limited access to it.
dustyvanilla Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2	Posted - 2013.05.26 09:09:00 - [4] - Quote I can still kill your tank with a swarm launcher. If the people you are playing against don't do that then its their fault.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming EoN. 442	Posted - 2013.05.26 09:16:00 - [5] - Quote dustyvanilla wrote: I can still kill your tank with a swarm launcher. If the people you are playing against don't do that then its their fault. hahahahaa no dude, a good tank wont go down with 2-3 swarms. before he is anywhere close to being taken out he will just drive 2 meters back and activate his shield or armor rep. Swarms will only tickle him.
Jade Tech Nox Aeterna Security 6	Posted - 2013.05.26 21:39:00 - [6] - Quote If you can somehow call down another sniper tank to pin the other guy on that mountain, you can lead a group of AV players into the northern hills. In those hills, you can become completely untouchable if you duck and weave right. After getting closer to the enemy hill, ambush the tank and make sure to block his escape. Now I know what you'll say. "I can't call down a sniper tank because the other tank will destroy it first. (or you just haven't skilled into it.)" On maps like these, some vehicles and players turn invisible at certain distances (at least it does for me.). The tank won't be able to hit it, or just call it down behind a hill. "But getting a squad of AV is difficult." It is, but if you really want to destroy that tank, you need AV gear and a lot of motivation. Long range attacking will not work (Unless you're really really really lucky, or the tank is really really really stupid.) Call down an LAV, or go into the hills and sneak up on the tank. About 6 AV grenades will take a gunnlogi down, and maybe only five for Madrugars, so bring a nanohive or extra people. Then, just unleash your weapons all at once. This might seem like a lot to do, but CCP wanted to add that region for a reason, and I think it was to give snipers a place to finally snipe on that map. To me, it feels like every other match where a person gets up to a really high spot where they can't get hit long range (on top of buildings). The only way to get at them is to get up close and personnel, no matter the cost.
Lycuo BetaMax. CRONOS. 20	Posted - 2013.05.29 12:26:00 - [7] - Quote Jade Tech wrote: If you can somehow call down another sniper tank to pin the other guy on that mountain, you can lead a group of AV players into the northern hills. In those hills, you can become completely untouchable if you duck and weave right. After getting closer to the enemy hill, ambush the tank and make sure to block his escape. Now I know what you'll say. "I can't call down a sniper tank because the other tank will destroy it first. (or you just haven't skilled into it.)" On maps like these, some vehicles and players turn invisible at certain distances (at least it does for me.). The tank won't be able to hit it, or just call it down behind a hill. "But getting a squad of AV is difficult." It is, but if you really want to destroy that tank, you need AV gear and a lot of motivation. Long range attacking will not work (Unless you're really really really lucky, or the tank is really really really stupid.) Call down an LAV, or go into the hills and sneak up on the tank. About 6 AV grenades will take a gunnlogi down, and maybe only five for Madrugars, so bring a nanohive or extra people. Then, just unleash your weapons all at once. This might seem like a lot to do, but CCP wanted to add that region for a reason, and I think it was to give snipers a place to finally snipe on that map. To me, it feels like every other match where a person gets up to a really high spot where they can't get hit long range (on top of buildings). The only way to get at them is to get up close and personnel, no matter the cost. 2 things Jade Tech: 1.) If CCP knew every which way things would be used and abused they would not have added many things such as bouncing dropships, isk for people afking in MCC, or hill glitches for snipers builds ago. There are just way too many things to worry about when building a brand new game to catch everything (you may try to claim this isnt new but this is technically the first release of the game ;)). Now saying this they have also worked their butts of to try and stop things from being used and abused but they also realized it will happen and thats why they have subforums such as this one u currently typed in. 2.) Your madman method of taking that tank out might work. The point the OP was making is that in a skim it means nothing, but in a PC match it means everything. I cant dedicate 6 guys to go blow up one tank because my tank cant actually fight their tank yet their tank can shoot everything on the map.

CCP LogicLoop C C P C C P Alliance 57	Posted - 2013.05.30 07:26:00 - [8] - Quote We are aware of this problem at this location. We had fixed it at one point and then re-adjusted the sizes of the playable areas. It was most likely an oversight on our part to ensure it didn't stay a problem.

Garth Mandra The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 18	Posted - 2013.06.21 04:01:00 - [9] - Quote We just need a route up into those hills from various directions. I have tried to sneek up on snipers and tanks from the Western slopes and I have been unable to find a way up. There are routes from the South but my victims are usually looking that way.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming EoN. 464	Posted - 2013.06.21 10:59:00 - [10] - Quote Garth Mandra wrote: We just need a route up into those hills from various directions. I have tried to sneek up on snipers and tanks from the Western slopes and I have been unable to find a way up. There are routes from the South but my victims are usually looking that way. i have actually found a way up to get there from the other side. But still a difficult spot to get to.



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