DUST Search - If a TAR beats a LR then it needs changes

Cinnamon267 wrote:

Exmaple Core wrote:

hooc order wrote:

TERMINALANCE wrote:

If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story.

The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim.

Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR.

Do you see the cycle here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHr_mJn17xY is this whinny? Though i havent seen more than 3 laxers this entire build geuss that means their really bad now. How bad are they?

God, damn. That video makes me sad. I feel sorry for the people on the receiving end. The Viziam was BROKEN. Now, the entire weapon seems busted. After using the Scrambler, it's so hard to use the LR. The sites are so awful and the TAR just rips you apart. Laser isn't very good, now. I, almost, never see it. I used to use it all the time when it came out and until I stop playing several months ago. Now, I can't imagine using it until the sites are addressed and/or the AR as a whole is addressed.

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TERMINALANCE Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 44	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:22:00 - [1] - Quote If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story.
Your Absolut End SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 60	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:25:00 - [2] - Quote +1 just to keep spamming ccp with do something about the LR issue, worked with the heavies quiet well...
hooc order Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement 127	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:34:00 - [3] - Quote TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here?
Exmaple Core Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 356	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:38:00 - [4] - Quote hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHr_mJn17xY is this whinny? Though i havent seen more than 3 laxers this entire build geuss that means their really bad now. How bad are they?
ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 152	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:38:00 - [5] - Quote I'LL SAY! NERF THE LR! BEING ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE Tactful Assault Rifle, a gentlemans weapon, IS COMPLETE HERESY!
Selinate deux DUST University Ivy League 75	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:41:00 - [6] - Quote YES, WE KNOW BY NOW THAT THE TAR, SPECIFICALLY THE DUVOLLE TAC, NEEDS A MASSIVE NERF. THANK YOU.
Exmaple Core Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 356	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:42:00 - [7] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: YES, WE KNOW BY NOW THAT THE TAR, SPECIFICALLY THE DUVOLLE TAC, NEEDS A MASSIVE NERF. THANK YOU. lolol x) +1
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1772	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:51:00 - [8] - Quote TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The AR tact wins against everything
Altina McAlterson Not Guilty EoN. 529	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:52:00 - [9] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: YES, WE KNOW BY NOW THAT THE TAR, SPECIFICALLY THE DUVOLLE TAC, NEEDS A MASSIVE NERF. THANK YOU. Remove TAR from the game and move on. I'll keep saying it until people understand why it's a good idea. PS. The fact that no one will have to post you did anymore is one of the reasons, btw.
Xender17 Murderz for hire 94	Posted - 2013.05.23 21:54:00 - [10] - Quote +1 a weapon in it optimal environment is suppose to win against a weapon that is balanced in all environments.
Dale Templar Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 2	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:32:00 - [11] - Quote NOT THIS AGAIN.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 480	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:35:00 - [12] - Quote if the TAR beats a HMG at CQC and laser at range something is wrong.
Dale Templar Regime Of Shadow Marines Alpha Wolf Pack 2	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:36:00 - [13] - Quote ZeHealingHurts HurtingHeals wrote: I'LL SAY! NERF THE LR! BEING ABLE TO COMPETE WITH THE Tactful Assault Rifle, a gentlemans weapon, IS COMPLETE HERESY! Gentlemen against whiny babies alliance.
BIGphiliSTYLE O.Q.R.D. 0	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:37:00 - [14] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The AR tact wins against everything Not against my bumper
Cinnamon267 The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 65	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:55:00 - [15] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHr_mJn17xY is this whinny? Though i havent seen more than 3 laxers this entire build geuss that means their really bad now. How bad are they? God, damn. That video makes me sad. I feel sorry for the people on the receiving end. The Viziam was BROKEN. Now, the entire weapon seems busted. After using the Scrambler, it's so hard to use the LR. The sites are so awful and the TAR just rips you apart. Laser isn't very good, now. I, almost, never see it. I used to use it all the time when it came out and until I stop playing several months ago. Now, I can't imagine using it until the sites are addressed and/or the AR as a whole is addressed.
Full Metal Kitten Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 489	Posted - 2013.05.23 22:59:00 - [16] - Quote Fitting my laser forced me to get good with my sidearm. So not a total loss.
2-Ton Twenty-One Imperfects Negative-Feedback 638	Posted - 2013.05.30 13:35:00 - [17] - Quote LR needs some work, as a heavy i do not worry about it at all its not a threat to me at range and that is just sad.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. CRONOS. 1671	Posted - 2013.05.30 14:02:00 - [18] - Quote hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? Yeah, because wanting to reduce the CQC capability of a long-range weapons that currently performs better at all range than any other weapon in the game is a sign of some kind of nerf/buff PvP. Do any of you people even read threads before deciding you know the entire issue and saying **** that can't be backed up? TAR range is fine, and honestly, so is the damage output. What people who used to use the LR want back is the range, not the broken damage of the old Viziam. It doesn't make any sense for a weapon of that type to be that useless at range.
BL4CKST4R WarRavens 72	Posted - 2013.05.30 14:17:00 - [19] - Quote TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. CCP Wolfman wrote: Hi We are currently testing an update to the TAC AR and we hope to release it next week. The changes being tested include a smaller clip size, increased hip-fire dispersion to make it less effective in CQC and a lower ROF. WeGÇÖre not aiming to nerf hammer it so weGÇÖll monitor the weapon carefully after that to see the impact of the change. CCP Wolfman
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 172	Posted - 2013.05.30 14:21:00 - [20] - Quote hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? its the same people. they should go back to skirmish where their redline sniping is tolerated
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 624	Posted - 2013.05.30 15:58:00 - [21] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHr_mJn17xY is this whinny? Though i havent seen more than 3 laxers this entire build geuss that means their really bad now. How bad are they? Warms my heart to know maple is a fan
Doc Noah Algintal Core Gallente Federation 65	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:01:00 - [22] - Quote LR has very long range and moderate damage, TAR has slightly less range and hits like a truck. I dont get this logic.
lowratehitman Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 624	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:01:00 - [23] - Quote Cinnamon267 wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: hooc order wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: If a Tar and a LR fight at the LR's optimum range and the TAR wins that battle hands down every time it needs changes end of story. The LR was nerfed because a bunch of whinny carried players complained about the Vizim. Now the whinny carried LR players want to nerf the TAR. Do you see the cycle here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHr_mJn17xY is this whinny? Though i havent seen more than 3 laxers this entire build geuss that means their really bad now. How bad are they? God, damn. That video makes me sad. I feel sorry for the people on the receiving end. The Viziam was BROKEN. Now, the entire weapon seems busted. After using the Scrambler, it's so hard to use the LR. The sites are so awful and the TAR just rips you apart. Laser isn't very good, now. I, almost, never see it. I used to use it all the time when it came out and until I stop playing several months ago. Now, I can't imagine using it until the sites are addressed and/or the AR as a whole is addressed. Over half those kills came from a broken spawn system in which is fixed now.
Ekrano Fergus Molon Labe. League of Infamy 2	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:08:00 - [24] - Quote Doc Noah wrote: LR has very long range and moderate damage, TAR has slightly less range and hits like a truck. I dont get this logic. Except the tac has more range than the LR.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1807	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:28:00 - [25] - Quote Ekrano Fergus wrote: Doc Noah wrote: LR has very long range and moderate damage, TAR has slightly less range and hits like a truck. I dont get this logic. Except the tac has more range than the LR. The Tact beats all weapons
Dregarian IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 5	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:57:00 - [26] - Quote The LR just needs a buff in dmg and the TAR could use a smaller mag size say 15 rounds.
Lostall Dust Purgatorium of the Damned League of Infamy 0	Posted - 2013.05.30 16:58:00 - [27] - Quote Instead of nerfing the TAC rifle just buff everything else, bring them in line with the TAC rifle. Hell they buff the free LAV why not the rest of the guns.

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