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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:10:00 -
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If you play this game purely for effectiveness and to "win", using anything but ARs and TARs means you're a moron. It is CLEARLY better than every single other light weapon. Better range, better damage application, better clip size, no overheating, more versatility because it works at close to long range...
The only reason to use another gun is maybe at super QCQ or if another gun is more fun for you...but you sacrifice K/D ratio and overall effectiveness.
I run flaylocks/knives and simply skip every single long range map...I don't want to hop onto the AR bandwagon. Will probably get bored quicker that way, but that just means I'll switch to another game sooner rather than later. OP weapons are a killer if you're not willing to be boring and jump on the bandwagon. As it stands, there's no way I'll play Dust for as long as EVE (8yrs!). |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:17:00 -
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mollerz wrote:Jin Robot wrote:mollerz wrote:I rarely use a GLU-tac. I mostly rock nova knives, flaylocks, and subby's lately. sometimes a shotty. People just jumped on the bandwagon. It's no big deal. digital weapons are digitally lethal.
It's kind of annoying when people play a war game and get killed by war weapons and complain about it. do you even knwo what kind of game you are paying? What do you expect? might i suggest angry birds? OR tetris? Its called balance, its a vital part of these war games you seem to know little about. lololol. It's not balance you seek. It's bland vanilla wins where you get to dictate your enemy and their equipment that you seek. let's not delude ourselves, shall we? I nova knife, shotgun blast, and sub machine gun Tac users every single battle. I have no problem with people using the weapon of their choice. So what's your excuse? And please, let's not try to hide behind the balance excuse.
And you do all that on short range maps...on every single long range map you're completely useless against TARs. I love knives and short range weapons too, but to claim you own in every single game against TARs is a ridiculous lie. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:38:00 -
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mollerz wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:mollerz wrote:Jin Robot wrote:mollerz wrote:I rarely use a GLU-tac. I mostly rock nova knives, flaylocks, and subby's lately. sometimes a shotty. People just jumped on the bandwagon. It's no big deal. digital weapons are digitally lethal.
It's kind of annoying when people play a war game and get killed by war weapons and complain about it. do you even knwo what kind of game you are paying? What do you expect? might i suggest angry birds? OR tetris? Its called balance, its a vital part of these war games you seem to know little about. lololol. It's not balance you seek. It's bland vanilla wins where you get to dictate your enemy and their equipment that you seek. let's not delude ourselves, shall we? I nova knife, shotgun blast, and sub machine gun Tac users every single battle. I have no problem with people using the weapon of their choice. So what's your excuse? And please, let's not try to hide behind the balance excuse. And you do all that on short range maps...on every single long range map you're completely useless against TARs. I love knives and short range weapons too, but to claim you own in every single game against TARs is a ridiculous lie. Long range maps? I bust out my LAV. I do a lot of sneaking around. Well.. I don't own, but I am routinely in the top 4 spots. I routinely get at least ten kills. Many many assists, and I die a lot sometimes as well... to TACs to tanks. to mass drivers. pretty much everything a player a kills me with ;) There is not a balance issue. Just a desire to control the weapons your enemy uses because it is apparently such a good counter to the way you stubbornly play it means you play to get owned. um.. lol.. adapt or die much? Which one?
It's about versatility...and in that respect no other weapon even comes close. A TAR is waaaaaay more effective at various ranges than anything else. Every single other weapon has some drawback (SR overheats, LR is crap up close, mass driver has less range AND a non-direct flight path, sniper rifles are crap up close, shotgun only usable up close) but the TAR doesn't. Tell me, what's the drawback of using a TAR other than it not fitting your play style?
When it comes to pure effectiveness and versatility, nothing beats it.
I'm not saying all other weapons suck, I'm saying they simply aren't as good as TARs for k/d ratios. I get good results with knives/flaylocks too, but compared to a TAR user it's playing the game on hard mode while he gets to play on easy mode.
Spec into TARs and then compare it to your puny little shotgun in terms of effectiveness ;)
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.22 20:56:00 -
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mollerz wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:
It's about versatility...and in that respect no other weapon even comes close. A TAR is waaaaaay more effective at various ranges than anything else. Every single other weapon has some drawback (SR overheats and has less range, LR is crap up close, mass driver has less range AND a non-direct flight path, sniper rifles are crap up close, shotgun is only usable up close) but the TAR doesn't. Tell me, what's the drawback of using a TAR other than it not fitting your play style?
When it comes to pure effectiveness and versatility, nothing beats it.
I'm not saying all other weapons suck, I'm saying they simply aren't as good as TARs for k/d ratios. I get good results with knives/flaylocks too, but compared to a TAR user it's playing the game on hard mode while he gets to play on easy mode.
Spec into TARs and then compare it to your puny little shotgun in terms of effectiveness ;)
I've spec'd into AR enough to use the GLU-Tac here and there. It is pretty boss. Like before chromosome. However, I just don't have as much fun with the play style it dictates. I use weapons that suit my play style and as a result have more fun. And that is probably the reason I do well enough most times. Of course, if your play style is owned by a particular play style or weapon that is popular, your fun is going to go down and your performance along with it. The topics we should be talking about are lag, the stickiness of objects and terrain, etc. These are major problems above and beyond small balance issues.
That's al I'm saying too. Like I said, I prefer knives/flaylock too...but to claim a TAR wouldn't be better for your k/d % simply isn't true ;)
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R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion of Darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
38
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Posted - 2013.05.23 07:03:00 -
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RydogV wrote:It only puts you at a disadvantage if.....1) You are not playing with a team.....&......2) You are not skilled in the weapon you are trying to use (points and experience).
Point 1...when you are working with an organized fireteam you can be successful with a specialized weapon because you are filling a particular niche role, whether it is shotgun, mass driver, swarms, laser or heavy stuff. Everyone has a job to do and everyone should be covering each others back and engaging enemies in their optimal range. Without the teamwork and coordination you are probably going to get caught unaware in a less than ideal situation.
Point 2...when you just pick up a weapon for the first time, chances are you will not be very proficient with it. Mastering a weapon in Dust 514 take a bit more time than most shooters. If you do not have the patience to become adept with something more specialized then that is not the weapon's fault (or the developers). You also need to recognize that the weapon becomes more effective when you level up the skills associated with it. You will be surprised in the better performance when skills are raised.
So if you are playing alone most of the time or do not have the patience to become proficient with something then stick with the AR. It is the most versatile and easy to use weapon in the game.
Hogwash! A team full of TAR users will always win against a mixed team if they have the same skill levels. The exception is maybe one of the QCQ maps, but other than that, TAR teams win. |
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