DUST Search - The problem with LAV"s

Paran Tadec wrote:

ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:

Jaron Pollard wrote:

ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote:

I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade
1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast
2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank)
3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall)

OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there.

1. you obviously missed
2. it was probably a more advanced LAV.
3. 3ft/s is roughly 1m/s. This equates to 60m/minute, or 36km/h. A honda civic hitting you that fast could kill you.

1. I don't miss, ever. we tested this in PC with some friends, they drove right over AV's on the ground and took no damage (they explode mid air)
2. So an LAV takes more nades than a tank that's got 10x the armor? neat.
3. COULD kill ME. my suit has over 1100 EHP and I get OHK'd by this. a militia railgun smacking into me does less damage even though it carries a lot more energy, and moves faster meaning it would actually pierce me.

So you admit the caldari logi is OP and needs a nerf?

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ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 58	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:00:00 - [1] - Quote I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade 1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast 2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank) 3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall) OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there.
Jaron Pollard Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 127	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:04:00 - [2] - Quote ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade 1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast 2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank) 3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall) OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there. 1. you obviously missed 2. it was probably a more advanced LAV. 3. 3ft/s is roughly 1m/s. This equates to 60m/minute, or 36km/h. A honda civic hitting you that fast could kill you.
ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 58	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:07:00 - [3] - Quote Jaron Pollard wrote: ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade 1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast 2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank) 3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall) OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there. 1. you obviously missed 2. it was probably a more advanced LAV. 3. 3ft/s is roughly 1m/s. This equates to 60m/minute, or 36km/h. A honda civic hitting you that fast could kill you. 1. I don't miss, ever. we tested this in PC with some friends, they drove right over AV's on the ground and took no damage (they explode mid air) 2. So an LAV takes more nades than a tank that's got 10x the armor? neat. 3. COULD kill ME. my suit has over 1100 EHP and I get OHK'd by this. a militia railgun smacking into me does less damage even though it carries a lot more energy, and moves faster meaning it would actually pierce me.
BMSTUBBYxx Algintal Core Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:09:00 - [4] - Quote You must have missed the part in the patch notes where it clearly states that the title of this game has officially been changed to , " LAV 514 "
ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 58	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:12:00 - [5] - Quote BMSTUBBYxx wrote: You must have missed the part in the patch notes where it clearly states that the title of this game has officially been changed to , " LAV 514 " AH THANKS FRIEND! also for anyone else being like wtf why are shield lavs so strong now? they have an additional 10% damage reduction from all weapons and nades on top of skills :D
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 743	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:23:00 - [6] - Quote Till the turret on it becomes viable, I should still be able to roadkill people
Paran Tadec Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1066	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:25:00 - [7] - Quote ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade 1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast 2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank) 3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall) OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there. 1. you obviously missed 2. it was probably a more advanced LAV. 3. 3ft/s is roughly 1m/s. This equates to 60m/minute, or 36km/h. A honda civic hitting you that fast could kill you. 1. I don't miss, ever. we tested this in PC with some friends, they drove right over AV's on the ground and took no damage (they explode mid air) 2. So an LAV takes more nades than a tank that's got 10x the armor? neat. 3. COULD kill ME. my suit has over 1100 EHP and I get OHK'd by this. a militia railgun smacking into me does less damage even though it carries a lot more energy, and moves faster meaning it would actually pierce me. So you admit the caldari logi is OP and needs a nerf?
ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 58	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:26:00 - [8] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Till the turret on it becomes viable, I should still be able to roadkill people The turret is viable if proto, like I said I don't have a problem with you running people over, only when you can't be killed either.
ALMIGHTY STATIUS Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 58	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:26:00 - [9] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: Jaron Pollard wrote: ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: I have no problem with LAV's OHKing me. (even though the railguns can't) what I do have a problem with is when my magnetic AV nade 1. can't catch up to an LAV because they move so fast 2. the vehicle takes 7 proto packed to destroy (more than a tank) 3 the vehicle can move at 3 ft/s and still ohk me (without shoving me into a wall) OHK=One hit kill for noobies out there. 1. you obviously missed 2. it was probably a more advanced LAV. 3. 3ft/s is roughly 1m/s. This equates to 60m/minute, or 36km/h. A honda civic hitting you that fast could kill you. 1. I don't miss, ever. we tested this in PC with some friends, they drove right over AV's on the ground and took no damage (they explode mid air) 2. So an LAV takes more nades than a tank that's got 10x the armor? neat. 3. COULD kill ME. my suit has over 1100 EHP and I get OHK'd by this. a militia railgun smacking into me does less damage even though it carries a lot more energy, and moves faster meaning it would actually pierce me. So you admit the caldari logi is OP and needs a nerf? Clogi is retardely OP.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 743	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:31:00 - [10] - Quote ALMIGHTY STATIUS wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Till the turret on it becomes viable, I should still be able to roadkill people The turret is viable if proto, like I said I don't have a problem with you running people over, only when you can't be killed either. Wait hold on a second, with how easy it is to kill with an exile, it should take a full skill investment to kill without completely stopping the lav? And I meant more along the lines of the driver controlling the turret, whether via variant or standard.
Hey Fatty SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 12	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:37:00 - [11] - Quote The only issues, other than being turned into Logi road kill, that I honestly notice that actually almost annoys me is the "laggyness" if the LAVs. What I mean by this is the choppy animation I witness when im seeing a LAV hauling some serious ass across the field or down a road. Its laggin so much that the gunner is literally 2-3ft behind the LAV hovering as if he was manning that gun. Ill see my opportunity and toss my nade, only to see it fly through the air, and even with a well aimed toss, the LAV will skip right through it and gets away unharmed. Not really anything I can do, not anything il spew sweet tears over..just midly annoying at most. Iv got other things to occupy my time until he decides to come back for another drive by. . .Maybe il get him that time? :)
Skihids The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 1455	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:45:00 - [12] - Quote My Gurista Saga can take only two EXO AV grenades, but I've got 4m SP invested in Vehicle Upgrade skills to be able to buy and fit the 92k ISK worth of modules necessary to accomplish that. The survivable LAVS are not low cost in either SP or ISK. LAVs also rely heavily on speed tanking. if we fly by you at speed your homing AV grenade may not be in range long enough or may not have the speed to catch up unless you lead your throw. The energy of a projectile is a factor of both the mass and the speed (mv*2), so while the railgun round is moving much faster it is also much less massive than an LAV. I too would like to see the math CCP uses to calculate damage and see if it takes into account the mass of the vehicle (including passengers) and the speed or if it just has a simple speed cutoff.
J Falcs Bojo's School of the Trades 48	Posted - 2013.05.22 16:59:00 - [13] - Quote Me running across any open space now. I swear I look both ways.
CharCharOdell Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 188	Posted - 2013.05.22 17:04:00 - [14] - Quote Chary's exist BC your begging to nerf tanks made us useless! We adapted and now you want to nerf that, too. And the logo lava NEED to be heavily shielded BC they're front line units. I'm all for nerfing the mlt lava but I invested millions of so into lava and I can't use tanks BC they're useless; keep logi lava the way they are. SOME kind of vehicle needs to be worth the SP.
Vaerana Myshtana Bojo's School of the Trades 950	Posted - 2013.05.22 17:21:00 - [15] - Quote We're back to why AV is important and why the HP vs. AV numbers were good in Chromosome...

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