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Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:21:00 -
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Are people getting their re-spec starting everyday, from now, or on the 30th? |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:23:00 -
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No date given yet. Read annoucements. |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:24:00 -
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Knight SoIaire wrote:Are people getting their re-spec starting everyday, from now, or on the 30th?
Looking at other post, it seems people are getting them now and the deadline to make your request is the end of the month. But they should keep doing them after that. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:27:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:Knight SoIaire wrote:Are people getting their re-spec starting everyday, from now, or on the 30th? Looking at other post, it seems people are getting them now and the deadline to make your request is the end of the month. But they should keep doing them after that.
I sent mine in pretty early.
Hopefully I get it tomorrow then. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:31:00 -
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Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course |
steadyhand amarr
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:33:00 -
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Given that they would proabaly have to manually build each SQL statmemt and do it during down time. While making sure its correct and does not kill the database with limited man power I can see this taking some time |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:34:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precorsory to the respec, are finished.
You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's.
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Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:48:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Given that they would proabaly have to manually build each SQL statmemt and do it during down time. While making sure its correct and does not kill the database with limited man power I can see this taking some time You mean build one sql statement and insert each players name then run it?
Or build an arraylist of every player's name and plug that variable into the sql to do it in one fell swoop? |
Nguruthos IV
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:49:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precursory to the respec, are finished. You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's.
So you're saying they havn't started/finished the skill changes yet? |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:54:00 -
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Nguruthos IV wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Given that they would proabaly have to manually build each SQL statmemt and do it during down time. While making sure its correct and does not kill the database with limited man power I can see this taking some time You mean build one sql statement and insert each players name then run it? Or build an arraylist of every player's name and plug that variable into the sql to do it in one fell swoop? Using an array sounds more reasoable. I cant imagine them typing out what is probably hundreds or thousands of two line statements.
I think what takes the most time really is getting the skilltree right. They don't want to end up with people requesting another respec because they added some changes afterwards.
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Zeveross
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:57:00 -
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Nguruthos IV wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Given that they would proabaly have to manually build each SQL statmemt and do it during down time. While making sure its correct and does not kill the database with limited man power I can see this taking some time You mean build one sql statement and insert each players name then run it? Or build an arraylist of every player's name and plug that variable into the sql to do it in one fell swoop?
You and your LOGIC! I think right now they're trying to train mice on how to do the SQL statements and thus the delay. Mice keep nuking the practice DB. Oops. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.22 15:57:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precursory to the respec, are finished. You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's.
And your lack of reading comprehension wrongly interpreted my post.
Where exactly was it that I said that I expected the respec to be during downtime? All I said is that its another carrot that CCP dangles in front of its players without any specific timetable as to when it will happen exactly
ie - "Respec requests will take place during the week of xx/xx and xx/xx and requests will be fullfilled on a first come first serve basis"
-- Reading is Fundamental --
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:00:00 -
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Nguruthos IV wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precursory to the respec, are finished. You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's. So you're saying they havn't started/finished the skill changes yet? Well, todays patch did change skills so we can assume that they started. But it is nowhere said that that's the end of it and the deadline for requests is set to the 30th. So there's plenty of time left in the schedule.
So send your requests, keep an eye on this section and chill out everybody. You'll get them as soon as they're here you'll likely know the date before. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:10:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precursory to the respec, are finished. You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's. And your lack of reading comprehension wrongly interpreted my post. Where exactly was it that I said that I expected the respec to be during downtime? All I said is that its another carrot that CCP dangles in front of its players without any specific timetable as to when it will happen exactly ie - "Respec requests will take place during the week of xx/xx and xx/xx and requests will be fullfilled on a first come first serve basis" -- Reading is Fundamental -- The only thing that was not ignored as a meaningless rant was this peace (bolding by me):
Cabari Elphus wrote: Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course
That is wrong simply for the fact that there wasn't a date for the actual respecs to begin with, hence rendering your comment baseless. But thank you for using a strawman to accuse me of using a strawman. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 16:43:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Canari Elphus wrote:Its just more SOONGäó BS from CCP to keep the carrot dangling in front of us until they can actually get around to it.
Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course There never was a definite date for the respec to begin with and there's no indication that the skillchanges, which are precursory to the respec, are finished. You wrongly interpreting CCP's statements is your fault only. Not CCP's. And your lack of reading comprehension wrongly interpreted my post. Where exactly was it that I said that I expected the respec to be during downtime? All I said is that its another carrot that CCP dangles in front of its players without any specific timetable as to when it will happen exactly ie - "Respec requests will take place during the week of xx/xx and xx/xx and requests will be fullfilled on a first come first serve basis" -- Reading is Fundamental -- The only thing that was not ignored as a meaningless rant was this peace (bolding by me): Cabari Elphus wrote: Half hearted promises of implementation with ever changing dates seems about par for the course
That is wrong simply for the fact that there wasn't a date for the actual respecs to begin with, hence rendering your comment baseless. But thank you for using a strawman to accuse me of using a strawman.
What you choose to ignore is completely up to you other than it leaves you arguing against something you didnt bother to understand in the first place. Do you deny that CCP has consistantly pushed dates for implementation of adjustments to the game? They even pushed the date for the skill tree. You failed to even see that my comment had two parts to it.
Part 1 - Focuses on the respec and that CCP again fails to deliver even a time frame as to when the respecs are taking place. They keep hinting to it and will continue to do so while everyone eagerly awaits it and gets frustrated because they are interpreting the time frame in their own ways.
Part 2 - General behavior of CCP to date that they state that things will get better and then cannot even live up to their own time tables that they give the players. When the changes do take place, they are hacked together which leads to even more time until the community's request is actually fulfilled. Case in point would be the skill tree change today. Yes, players got back some of the SP they had already spent but now, they are stuck with level 4 and 5 basic frames which equate to about 1.5 million SP that could have been used towards a racial suit.
CCP is a smart group of people that understand how to make a game. However, their MARCOM is atrocious and any CMO would get fired for how this has played out over the past couple months.
As far as your straw man comment. Thats funny. This is a social forum which, by nature, is filled with straw man posts. Were you actually expecting a full postmortem on communications failures?
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Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION
107
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Posted - 2013.05.22 17:50:00 -
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Well, Im one to man up and eat crow when applicable
Anyone who wants info on the respec deployment, check out the latest blog http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/05/optional-skill-respecs-available-for-a-limited-time/
Can someone confirm that the rollout has started? |
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