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Mithridates Vl
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:26:00 -
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In response to the growing issue many are experiencing with a lack of anti-vehicle specialists amongst the mercenary population of New Eden and increasing frustration at LAVs flooding the battlefields, Imperfects Public Relations has undertaken a new initiative designed to educate new soldiers and educate them on proper use of AV equipment, as well as the necessity of teamwork in bringing down complicated vehicular adversaries.
Starting today, Imperfects Public Relations will be visiting Academy battles as guest educators. We will be starting from the same base as all other new players, and driving 9000 eHP Madrugars because we believe in the importance of simulating real world battle conditions to demonstrate the importance of contingencies for response to armoured vehicular assault.
As a result of this, observant readers will note that Mithridates VL is now tenth on the individual KDR leaderboard, while Imperfects Public Relations is ninth on the corporate equivalent. It is unavoidable that this initiative will inflate our KDR and we urge CCP to either deprecate this system or encourage alternative methods of tracking the efficiency of mercenaries. Early predictions are that with the number of alternate characters required to continue to support this training exercise for its anticipated life span, the top ten individual leaderboard spots may be rendered irrelevant and a recalibration of the leaderboard will be required to gain useful results. This, to us, is an acceptable consequence considering the great benefit that our free education will bring to New Eden.
Thank you for your attention,
Chief of Communications Mithridates VL |
General John Ripper
187. Unclaimed.
276
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:28:00 -
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The Imperfects are so thoughtful. I am sure the newbies will learn much from your murder taxi rampage. |
Otoky
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
85
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:31:00 -
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Im so pissed off because of vehicle domination in pub games that I started to put some SP in to AV (btw im a sniper). Last game I killed 3 tank, 1 dropship and some LAV. I hope more AV will be around. |
Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate
83
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:45:00 -
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who cares? |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
34
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:52:00 -
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I've been doing this. You bastards stole my idea.
#doingitbeforeitwascool #DUSThipster #dealwithit |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.21 11:58:00 -
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You know, guys, and I don't about you, man, but every time I read one this guy's posts it reminds me of the new kid on the block you know. And what I mean with a new kid on the block, man, is that kid who comes from a totally different neighbourhood, and we've all seen it happen, and doesn't like what he sees. Now these guys are usually the silent guys who end up hanging around with that weird girl who prefers to eat toilet paper instead of those delicious burgers during the lunch break, bro. But every now and then we get one those guys who ends up doing all kinds of wild crap and gathering attention while trying to make the new environment much more like the one he's more used to. No big deal, that's his way of dealing with things, man.
Now, I know a thing or two about psycho analysis and human behaviour but I just wanted to scratch the surface a little bit with this post, nothing serious here, before sending a little message to Mithri. Because, Mithri, I know you like to read every single one of the posts that has been posted into your threads, man. I mean, bro, you might not like how certain things work in this game and God knows I don't like everything either, man, but let's not ruin the game experience for the new players just because we wanna prove a point to CCP please. You don't need to answer this little message or even listen to me, but all I ask is that you think about it just for a moment. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
356
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:09:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:You know, guys, and I don't about you, man, but every time I read one this guy's posts it reminds me of the new kid on the block you know. And what I mean with a new kid on the block, man, is that kid who comes from a totally different neighbourhood, and we've all seen it happen, and doesn't like what he sees. Now these guys are usually the silent guys who end up hanging around with that weird girl who prefers to eat toilet paper instead of those delicious burgers during the lunch break, bro. But every now and then we get one those guys who ends up doing all kinds of wild crap and gathering attention while trying to make the new environment much more like the one he's more used to. No big deal, that's his way of dealing with things, man.
Now, I know a thing or two about psycho analysis and human behaviour but I just wanted to scratch the surface a little bit with this post, nothing serious here, before sending a little message to Mithri. Because, Mithri, I know you like to read every single one of the posts that has been posted into your threads, man. I mean, bro, you might not like how certain things work in this game and God knows I don't like everything either, man, but let's not ruin the game experience for the new players just because we wanna prove a point to CCP please. You don't need to answer this little message or even listen to me, but all I ask is that you think about it just for a moment. This was very convoluted, but essentially:
Mith, what do you gain by being such a douchebag to newbies? |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
124
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:14:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:You know, guys, and I don't about you, man, but every time I read one this guy's posts it reminds me of the new kid on the block you know. And what I mean with a new kid on the block, man, is that kid who comes from a totally different neighbourhood, and we've all seen it happen, and doesn't like what he sees. Now these guys are usually the silent guys who end up hanging around with that weird girl who prefers to eat toilet paper instead of those delicious burgers during the lunch break, bro. But every now and then we get one those guys who ends up doing all kinds of wild crap and gathering attention while trying to make the new environment much more like the one he's more used to. No big deal, that's his way of dealing with things, man.
Now, I know a thing or two about psycho analysis and human behaviour but I just wanted to scratch the surface a little bit with this post, nothing serious here, before sending a little message to Mithri. Because, Mithri, I know you like to read every single one of the posts that has been posted into your threads, man. I mean, bro, you might not like how certain things work in this game and God knows I don't like everything either, man, but let's not ruin the game experience for the new players just because we wanna prove a point to CCP please. You don't need to answer this little message or even listen to me, but all I ask is that you think about it just for a moment. This was very convoluted, but essentially: Mith, what do you gain by being such a douchebag to newbies? Well, Arkena, I didn't use the word douchebag. |
Nexus Tau
DIOS EX. Gentlemen's Agreement
36
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:34:00 -
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Mithridates Vl wrote:
Starting today, Imperfects Public Relations will be visiting Academy battles as guest educators...
Mithridates VL
You mean guest pubstompers. |
steadyhand amarr
BetaMax Beta CRONOS.
573
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:40:00 -
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I see the imps are desperate to get back their bad guys of dust title :-P |
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
356
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:45:00 -
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Ric Barlom wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This was very convoluted, but essentially:
Mith, what do you gain by being such a douchebag to newbies?
Well, Arkena, I didn't use the word douchebag. You were nice and polite, so I summed it up better for you. |
Ric Barlom
On The Brink CRONOS.
126
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Posted - 2013.05.21 12:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Ric Barlom wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: This was very convoluted, but essentially:
Mith, what do you gain by being such a douchebag to newbies?
Well, Arkena, I didn't use the word douchebag. You were nice and polite, so I summed it up better for you. Well I'm not here to start another flame war. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
687
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:19:00 -
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To be honest, the instant battle academy is nothing but a placeholder currently. You guys really think CCP, which is probably an Icelandic acronym for sandbox, is going to divide newbies in such a away, when such a mechanic is counter intuitive to their vision? So that reason for engaging in this 'education' simply doesn't work.
Furthermore, an initiative to make people use AV weapons? Pssh. That comes with a bigger playerbase, bigger game modes and bigger maps, not from rolling over newbies with tanks. Trust me, when people start maxing out their primary specialisations, we'll be seeing much more of your friendly neighbourhood swarm launchers.
This is terrorism, not education. My address is the planet Jolia. I'll leave the door open if I could actually figure out how to open it.
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Ludwig Van AssWhoopin
lMPurity
64
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Posted - 2013.05.21 13:29:00 -
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Darken-Sol wrote:who cares?
Not caring what the Imperfects are doing is punishable by death. Someone will be along to collect you shortly. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
219
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:25:00 -
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Google needs to release a translater from Imp speak to normal speak.
I believe, and I may be wrong, my Imp is a bit rusty, what Mithdrates is trying to say is "We are such insecure d-bags that we want to noob stomp the training battles."
Honestly, IMP, you guys are great at the game, why are you wasting your time making it suck for new players? Like, Im all for being super invested into the game, and normally stuff like "go get a life" comes off as simply jealous. But if you are going out of your way to ruin the game for new players and in the process, ruin the growth of the game, for no gain but to make yourselves feel important, maybe its time to take a step back and go improve your skills in real life.
TLDR: If you have nothing better to do in life than ruin a game for new players, you need to fix your life. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
730
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:33:00 -
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I don't see the problem, at one point most, if not all of us learned to spec Av the hard way. |
Bones McGavins
TacoCat Industries
220
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:38:00 -
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So you dont see a problem with the introduction to the game being tank stomped by the best players in the game surrounded by a bunch of noobs? That sounds like something people would enjoy and stick around for?
Nobody is going to "learn" anything from that. Even if they DO spec into AV they will still get slaughtered by a squad of IMP tanks. What they will learn is "this game sucks, im going to play something else." |
Goat of Dover
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
166
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:41:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I see the imps are desperate to get back their bad guys of dust title :-P
DING DING DING. Basic fear tactics. gotta break them young huh Impose s? |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
262
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Posted - 2013.05.21 14:48:00 -
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So what you saying is, that you going to reduce the Dust 514 community by bullying newbies ? Make people say this game sucks, and then quit ?
You have to love Metagaming !! |
Mithridates Vl
Imperfects Public Relations
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:40:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Mith, what do you gain by being such a douchebag to newbies? The perception that this initiative is fueled by a desire to harm new players is caused by a bias which I have no interest in working against. I am engaging in lengthy DUSTmail correspondence with many of the players who are involved in this program and have seen no evidence of players leaving because of it. Those claiming that we are driving new players away are guilty of the "silent witness" fallacy and are either misinformed or dishonest.
Bones McGavins wrote:Nobody is going to "learn" anything from that. Even if they DO spec into AV they will still get slaughtered by a squad of IMP tanks. What they will learn is "this game sucks, im going to play something else." You are speaking from a position of ignorance unless you have engaged in these Academy battles in tanks yourself. The speed of improvement of the Academy students has been remarkable and I'm actually really proud of them. While I am tracking names over the course of many matches, some are showing such accelerated learning that it can be tracked within the match.
In the opening stages of the match, they are running about madly, figuring out what the buttons do. They get blapped a couple of times while doing this and learn to avoid the tank.
In the middle game, some have switched to swarm launcher, rarely there is an AV grenade or two flying about, but they're trying to solo the tank and figuring out that it has enough reppers to sit in front of a solo swarmer and do nothing.
In the end game, though, some of these guys are really becoming quite outstanding... and many are reaching this stage through repeated exposure to the tank over multiple matches. I was on Biomass, approaching the CRU next to Bravo. The enemy team sent our four assault players to fire on me and run back into the outpost. Getting cocky, I followed them in, not expecting any of these players to have quite figured out what to do yet.
Suddenly, six swarm launchers, hiding behind the wall, AMBUSH me and starting tearing hell out of my tank. All power to armour repair and my team swarm in to focus repair tools on me, after I explained to them on comms how these work.
I wouldn't have survived if it weren't for that and despite getting out with my tank, I feel that was a situation where luck prevailed. The kind of organisation required to pull that off betrayed the fact that the enemy team had started using comms between at least that group which engaged the tank, where there was no indication that they were playing as a team before this.
I made sure to send all of these guys congratulatory mails after the match.
I'm not a tanker. I'm not the best player in the game. It's disingenuous to suggest that we're dropping elite tankers onto Academy matches out of malice. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
4512
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:40:00 -
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I approve of this service. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
318
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Posted - 2013.05.21 21:45:00 -
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For a start... limit the total number of battles an account can have and still get into the academy. It's not very hard to check for more than one limiting factor CCP.
Yes, you can get around it, but it will take more work, agreeing to EULA's and all that nonsense. |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:09:00 -
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Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
437
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:10:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin. Nice alt, bro. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
321
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:11:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin.
Nope, no obvious alt here. |
Rhorian Darkstar
Dark Force Katana General Tso's Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:12:00 -
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Mithridates Vl wrote:In response to the growing issue many are experiencing with a lack of anti-vehicle specialists amongst the mercenary population of New Eden and increasing frustration at LAVs flooding the battlefields, Imperfects Public Relations has undertaken a new initiative designed to educate new soldiers and educate them on proper use of AV equipment, as well as the necessity of teamwork in bringing down complicated vehicular adversaries.
Starting today, Imperfects Public Relations will be visiting Academy battles as guest educators. We will be starting from the same base as all other new players, and driving 9000 eHP Madrugars because we believe in the importance of simulating real world battle conditions to demonstrate the importance of contingencies for response to armoured vehicular assault.
As a result of this, observant readers will note that Mithridates VL is now tenth on the individual KDR leaderboard, while Imperfects Public Relations is ninth on the corporate equivalent. It is unavoidable that this initiative will inflate our KDR and we urge CCP to either deprecate this system or encourage alternative methods of tracking the efficiency of mercenaries. Early predictions are that with the number of alternate characters required to continue to support this training exercise for its anticipated life span, the top ten individual leaderboard spots may be rendered irrelevant and a recalibration of the leaderboard will be required to gain useful results. This, to us, is an acceptable consequence considering the great benefit that our free education will bring to New Eden.
Thank you for your attention,
Chief of Communications Mithridates VL this is a great idea. I'm tire of being run over. +1 |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:46:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin. Nice alt, bro.
LOL....are you calling me an IMP? Seriously? Not even close.....but thank you.
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
438
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Posted - 2013.05.21 22:56:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin. Nice alt, bro. LOL....are you calling me an IMP? Seriously? Not even close.....but thank you. I never said anything about you being an IMP, I said you were an alt....
...guilty conscience? |
11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:03:00 -
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Polish Hammer wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Polish Hammer wrote:11Up3Down wrote:Honestly folks, better new players learn it in Academy BEFORE meeting the Proto Tank or LAV.
Good job IPR. The rest of you are just jelly cause you didn't do it first. Shame on you for being envious, it's a sin. Nice alt, bro. LOL....are you calling me an IMP? Seriously? Not even close.....but thank you. I never said anything about you being an IMP, I said you were an alt.......guilty conscience?
In that case, you are right, I am an alt. The more important question is whose alt? Sorry if I misunderstood, it just seems that everytime someone mentions ALT in an Imp thread then they are being called an Imp.
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Mithridates VI
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
1558
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:04:00 -
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11Up3Down wrote:In that case, you are right, I am an alt. The more important question is whose alt? Sorry if I misunderstood, it just seems that everytime someone mentions ALT in an Imp thread then they are being called an Imp.
Obvious IMP alt is obvious. |
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Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
438
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:06:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:11Up3Down wrote:In that case, you are right, I am an alt. The more important question is whose alt? Sorry if I misunderstood, it just seems that everytime someone mentions ALT in an Imp thread then they are being called an Imp.
Obvious IMP alt is obvious. Totes an alt, bro
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11Up3Down
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.05.21 23:57:00 -
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Mithridates VI wrote:11Up3Down wrote:In that case, you are right, I am an alt. The more important question is whose alt? Sorry if I misunderstood, it just seems that everytime someone mentions ALT in an Imp thread then they are being called an Imp.
Obvious IMP alt is obvious.
You obviously don't know your IMPs. But I'd be interested in knowing which IMP you think I am.
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137H4RGIC
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
54
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:08:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I approve of this service. Remind me not to vote for you next term. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
327
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:14:00 -
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137H4RGIC wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I approve of this service. Remind me not to vote for you next term.
Yeah, I think he just did. |
Makyre Vahliha
The White Hawk Knights
86
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Posted - 2013.05.22 00:17:00 -
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I don't know. I get the feeling that it is all a front to train newberries to become future recruitment for the Imps and to improve future alts for infiltration operations. This can be done by any corporation. What's the point of going through all the trouble just to become role models for drivers? If I see an enemy in front of me when driving my LAV, I'm not gonna get out and start shooting. If he's in my way, I will run him over. |
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