DUST Search - Increase scout speed, remove ability to fit turret.

EEPLURIBUS onDUST wrote:

Ulysses Knapse wrote:

You've obviously never played EVE.

As an experienced EVE player and a dedicated LAV driver on dust, the OP has a point. The turret bonus gives nothing to the SLAV. The logi LAV does just as good of a job with more than double the hitpoints and a LOT more utility. If the scout LAV were to have 4 seats total with no gun, it would fill a very nice role on the field even with a lack of HP.

If you can have 3 guys that can jump out of the vehicle to engage vs a turret that makes you stick out like a beacon to snipers, I would pick the seat. Bought 50 scout LAVs when i did my skills on the 14th, and at this point i literally beg my teammates to let me call in the scout LAV for them instead of them calling in a default because they are useless and I dont want them.

If the SLAV had 4 seats, it would have a defining advantage over the Logi. The acceleration bonus it currently has is nice and does make a difference, but it needs a speed bonus to really make the LAV worthwhile.

TL:DR, **** the turret, make the scout a mini-mini-van for bussing guys around. It needs a defining role for the isk it costs.

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crazy space 1 Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 1205	Posted - 2013.05.20 08:27:00 - [1] - Quote What part of "scout LAV" makes you think faster turret speed? The mind boggles
Ulysses Knapse DUST University Ivy League 391	Posted - 2013.05.20 09:22:00 - [2] - Quote You've obviously never played EVE.
EEPLURIBUS onDUST A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 0	Posted - 2013.05.20 19:23:00 - [3] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: You've obviously never played EVE. As an experienced EVE player and a dedicated LAV driver on dust, the OP has a point. The turret bonus gives nothing to the SLAV. The logi LAV does just as good of a job with more than double the hitpoints and a LOT more utility. If the scout LAV were to have 4 seats total with no gun, it would fill a very nice role on the field even with a lack of HP. If you can have 3 guys that can jump out of the vehicle to engage vs a turret that makes you stick out like a beacon to snipers, I would pick the seat. Bought 50 scout LAVs when i did my skills on the 14th, and at this point i literally beg my teammates to let me call in the scout LAV for them instead of them calling in a default because they are useless and I dont want them. If the SLAV had 4 seats, it would have a defining advantage over the Logi. The acceleration bonus it currently has is nice and does make a difference, but it needs a speed bonus to really make the LAV worthwhile. TL:DR, **** the turret, make the scout a mini-mini-van for bussing guys around. It needs a defining role for the isk it costs.
EXASTRA INVICTAS Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 11	Posted - 2013.05.20 19:31:00 - [4] - Quote EEPLURIBUS onDUST wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: You've obviously never played EVE. As an experienced EVE player and a dedicated LAV driver on dust, the OP has a point. The turret bonus gives nothing to the SLAV. The logi LAV does just as good of a job with more than double the hitpoints and a LOT more utility. If the scout LAV were to have 4 seats total with no gun, it would fill a very nice role on the field even with a lack of HP. If you can have 3 guys that can jump out of the vehicle to engage vs a turret that makes you stick out like a beacon to snipers, I would pick the seat. Bought 50 scout LAVs when i did my skills on the 14th, and at this point i literally beg my teammates to let me call in the scout LAV for them instead of them calling in a default because they are useless and I dont want them. If the SLAV had 4 seats, it would have a defining advantage over the Logi. The acceleration bonus it currently has is nice and does make a difference, but it needs a speed bonus to really make the LAV worthwhile. TL:DR, **** the turret, make the scout a mini-mini-van for bussing guys around. It needs a defining role for the isk it costs. I believe the turret tracking speed bonus is there to compensate for the increased speed with which the vehicle will be moving. And while I agree giving the Scout LAV two extra seats minus the turret would give it a defining role, I do NOT want that to happen until passengers are given the ability to fire Light and Sidearm weapons from the seats (not heavy weapons). Although under current mechanics and with free LAVs, the role of the Scout LAV is made useless. Crash, you die. Flip, you die. Etc. There are several changes needed to LAVs (I have a thread about this) and making this change to scouts would be most welcome I think. Also, the free LAVs should be removed. It really, really undermines the usefulness of training them at all aside from Tanks.
EEPLURIBUS onDUST A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 1	Posted - 2013.05.20 19:51:00 - [5] - Quote Quote: I believe the turret tracking speed bonus is there to compensate for the increased speed with which the vehicle will be moving. Currently, there is no speed bonus to the scouts over the LLAV. For me, they are both at 106.5 m/s. The scout only benefits from a slight acceleration bonus, but it doesn't effect the top speed Quote: And while I agree giving the Scout LAV two extra seats minus the turret would give it a defining role, I do NOT want that to happen until passengers are given the ability to fire Light and Sidearm weapons from the seats (not heavy weapons). I don't really think this would be good. in my mind, a scout LAV is for moving people fast to an objective. If there is a need to kill something, the people can jump out and then fight it out. its not hard to have the passengers jump out, and the LAV does a loop around to pick them back up when they are done. I do this all the time and with good amounts of success. Quote: the free LAVs should be removed. It really, really undermines the usefulness of training them at all aside from Tanks. I completely agree.The LAVs that you have to pay isk for lack their shine because of this. No one needs someone to come pick them up and take them to the next objective. They just call in a crappy free LAV and add one more vehicle to the quota.


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