Hey all, i guess i'm what u guys would call a blueberry sniper. I realized lately that most people don't enjoy having snipers on their teams. I am really just sniping to earn better gear...... . Seriously i tried running around with medic suits to rev and help the squad but i die so fast even when i get a head start on the guy. Assault suits didn't really help either. I'm using the militia and i guess there is better gear but i cant really afford anything isk and sp wise. To be honest it seems like this game rewards players for keeping themselves alive and getting a nice k/d rate even if it means losing the game. Honestly i dont see an increase whether i win or lose so whats the point? I'm expecting to get sum pretty harsh "you're a noob" insults but seriously how can i be blamed when the game literally rewards the playstyle of a cowardly sniper? More isk, less loss of suits so i can actually save up to compete with these 500+ shield and armor guys. Also i'd like to know if there is any point of a sniper squading up or if i'm just wasting space for a field player. Feel free to give any advice but please realize most people who have been playing this game actually have decent gear even while they preach about how you don't need decent gear to be effective. ANYWAY would just like to add that i play this game for fun and me running around and getting iced in 2 secs is NOT very fun. Maybe its just that i suck at straight up shoot outs but the gear difference really doesn't help....

Ok a couple of misconceptions here; if you're playing a sniper to make money initially - stop.

Unless you're really good.

From what I've observed, ISK distributions at the end of matches are based on the amount of WP you accrue during the match, which is difficult to do as a sniper because essentially all the WP you're getting is from kills. If you're running on the ground however, it can be very easy to get WP through assisted kills and hacking objectives. This will lead to more SP and more ISK earnt per match.

If you can't afford better suits ISK or SP wise, why don't you just use the *free* militia starter suits that everyone gets to begin with? Like I said - these suits are 100% free and so literally all of your match earnings will be profit so who cares how much you die or not?

Having said all of this, if you enjoy sniping by all means continue on. I'm a dedicated sniper so I'm going to be the last person to talk you out of it, and I would be lying if I told you it wasn't more profitable the more effective you become. Just be aware that there is a certain stigma around new players sniping, in that because they're generally not very effective, they don't contribute to the team as they aren't getting kills and aren't hacking objectives.

In relation to the squad comment: If you're sniping and you can provide overwatch for the squad, shout out enemy movements and help them engage enemies by taking out their shields or whatever when they're engaged, you will provide a lot of benefit to your squad. Voice comms for this is essentially a must though, so if you aren't all on them its going to be of limited use.

Incorrect on the ISK/WP thing. If I get 12 kills in a match I can get close to 200K ISK, but only about 600 WP or so. ISK isn't tied to WP, it's tied to performance, just like SP is. The better you perform the more ISK you make, the more WP you make, and the more SP you make. As a sniper just AFKing a full match I can make 6-7K SP and 160K ISK and never earn a single WP.

For the OP, players have mixed feelings about snipers. Some players love them, until they are being shot by them. As a sniper you can make yourself more useful by providing your squad with situational awareness and if there are other snipers, let them know to call them out for you and you intercept. Players tend to lean towards active snipers vs snipers who camp on e spot and contribute very little to the match as a whole. But if you are actively calling out sniper locations to your squad so they know where not to go and if you provide other intel to them, and counter-snipe for them, then they'll love you. Hell even snipers hate snipers.

a good sniper is an asset, 16 snipers are useless.

draw your own conclusions on that one

I've seen snipers go 18/0 and lead their team in WPs. And "F****ing sniper" is as common a complaint on comms as "F***ing tank". It's hard to do well, and there is a learning curve so if you want to be good do it. However, if you want to be a medic you should be training as a medic.

Get two suits: one with drop uplinks and one with a rep gun. Start in the uplink suit, drop it somewhere safe, change to your rep gun. Follow a heavy and keep him alive. Gather up all the delicious delicious +25 WP for team spawn and +30 WP for triage. Learn how to be a good logi. It will suck when you have all your new toys but all the sensibilities of a sniper.

a good sniper in a good spot is valuable to a squad
they can counter snipe,spot vehicles,scout objectives
eliminate enemies that have ur team pinned and cover logis picking up down players
a good squad set up is 2 assault with ar's , 2 heavies one with a hmg and one with a forge gun,one logi with ar,md or plasma cannon and 1 skilled sniper

how do you think performance is calculated? SP is 5 SP per second you're in the match + the amount of WP you earn. ISK seems to be loosely based on Some part WP, some part time in match and some part ISK destroyed. This is readily apparent when I've had 32/0 games as a sniper and earnt ~280k ISK, and then I spend time killing tanks, hacking objectives and going 10/2 (or something) against a team of protosuits and getting ~500k

Hey all, i guess i'm what u guys would call a blueberry sniper. I realized lately that most people don't enjoy having snipers on their teams. I am really just sniping to earn better gear...... . Seriously i tried running around with medic suits to rev and help the squad but i die so fast even when i get a head start on the guy. Assault suits didn't really help either. I'm using the militia and i guess there is better gear but i cant really afford anything isk and sp wise. To be honest it seems like this game rewards players for keeping themselves alive and getting a nice k/d rate even if it means losing the game. Honestly i dont see an increase whether i win or lose so whats the point? I'm expecting to get sum pretty harsh "you're a noob" insults but seriously how can i be blamed when the game literally rewards the playstyle of a cowardly sniper? More isk, less loss of suits so i can actually save up to compete with these 500+ shield and armor guys. Also i'd like to know if there is any point of a sniper squading up or if i'm just wasting space for a field player. Feel free to give any advice but please realize most people who have been playing this game actually have decent gear even while they preach about how you don't need decent gear to be effective. ANYWAY would just like to add that i play this game for fun and me running around and getting iced in 2 secs is NOT very fun. Maybe its just that i suck at straight up shoot outs but the gear difference really doesn't help....

I am really just sniping to earn better gear...... .

I've seen snipers go 18/0 and lead their team in WPs. And "F****ing sniper" is as common a complaint on comms as "F***ing tank". It's hard to do well, and there is a learning curve so if you want to be good do it. However, if you want to be a medic you should be training as a medic.

Get two suits: one with drop uplinks and one with a rep gun. Start in the uplink suit, drop it somewhere safe, change to your rep gun. Follow a heavy and keep him alive. Gather up all the delicious delicious +25 WP for team spawn and +30 WP for triage. Learn how to be a good logi. It will suck when you have all your new toys but all the sensibilities of a sniper.

Depends what kind of sniper you are really if you go 15+ for 0 cover objectives and call out enemy movement you will be loved by your teammates.
snip, snip
act all offended when someone drops a nanohive next to you and regard it as if it has the plague and very carefully avoid it when running back to the supply depot for ammo,

4. WP earnings. This probably has the least effect, but if you're in the match from the start and at the top of the scoreboard, you'll earn more ISK than a guy who was also there the whole time, but did nothing for the whole battle. If you join halfway through a battle and come first on the team, a guy with 0WP will still get more money than you.

F*** them keep sniping. If you can do it well, do it.