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CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
118
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:45:00 -
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CCP, take my money, but let me respec as many times as I want to. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
515
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:46:00 -
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No |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1398
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:46:00 -
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1022
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:47:00 -
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The day that happens, Dust 514 truly will be P2W. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1399
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:The day that happens, Dust 514 truly will be P2W.
Bro, you should have quoted me so we could have a "noception"  |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
118
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:48:00 -
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Then how about once a month, u can respec for 10,000,000 ISK? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1399
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:51:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Then how about once a month, u can respec for 10,000,000 ISK?
No. Once a year and it shall be 1,000,000,000 ISK  |
CharCharOdell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
118
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:56:00 -
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then this game will become boring bc i dont want to be the same class for a whole year. give me one reason why i shouldn't be able to. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
ROFL BROS
1399
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Posted - 2013.05.19 06:56:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:then this game will become boring bc i dont want to be the same class for a whole year. give me one reason why i shouldn't be able to.
Because, NO.
You want to play the flavor of the month? You best start grinding |
Road Hawk
Phantom Universe Task Force
Orion Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:17:00 -
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The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec |
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THE GREY CARDINAL
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
93
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:34:00 -
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Haha NO WAY! Have the conviction to find a role you like and become badass at it. You can make over 2 mill SP a month with boosters...Thats more than enough to branch out. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
321
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:44:00 -
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I will kill a kitten for every respec thread I see.
I have a pile of shoeboxes, many cats, and all the time in the world to browse this forum. The community has been warned. |
Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:46:00 -
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Road Hawk wrote:
The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec
Attributes are not even close to a respec impact wise. Why is this meaningless comparison repeated over and over again?
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Road Hawk
Phantom Universe Task Force
Orion Empire
17
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Posted - 2013.05.19 13:53:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Road Hawk wrote:
The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec
Attributes are not even close to a respec impact wise. Why is this meaningless comparison repeated over and over again?
I know self thats not the same ,but in Eve you can change so your skilling direction ,
so you would be able in Dust also to change your role 1x in year ,so what is your problem |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
321
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:00:00 -
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Road Hawk wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Road Hawk wrote:
The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec
Attributes are not even close to a respec impact wise. Why is this meaningless comparison repeated over and over again? I know self thats not the same ,but in Eve you can change so your skilling direction , so you would be able in Dust also to change your role 1x in year ,so what is your problem
The problem is that the comparison to the Eve attribute reallocation isn't a comparison at all.
Yes, Eve gets one reallocation a year. In no way does this let them reallocate skillpoints, but instead helps them spend more.
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:10:00 -
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Road Hawk wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Road Hawk wrote:
The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec
Attributes are not even close to a respec impact wise. Why is this meaningless comparison repeated over and over again? I know self thats not the same ,but in Eve you can change so your skilling direction , so you would be able in Dust also to change your role 1x in year ,so what is your problem The problem is that it's not the same thing. Remaps only matter in the long run to reward far sighted decisions and sticking to your plans at least for a year.
Regular respecs allow for impulsive change, make long term commitment irrelevant and therefore nullify the skill system as a whole.
Edit:
Let me guess: OP starts with bad idea => superficial supporting talking points are reiterated on the first page => get shredded => supporters get butthurt and refuse to contribute to the discussion => /thread.
We reached the second last stage. Last stage imminent. |
Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
517
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:32:00 -
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These threads are filled with the same invalid logic in favor of game concept breaking systems, and generally ignored, long sighted solid logic against them. I do not understand why we run in circles on this stuff. Its over, you lost, its not happening. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1573
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:32:00 -
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My choices mean things and I can't start over!!!!!
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Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
724
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:40:00 -
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UK-Shots
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
67
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:42:00 -
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Road Hawk wrote:
The best thing would be if CCP handle this like in EVE where you can change 1 x in Year your Attributes
so for Dust would be the best 1x in Year a free Respec
who in there right mind would continue to play this game for 1 year.
give me once a week respec so i can use the junk and delete this game |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
3110
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:43:00 -
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Infinite respecs, starts at $10 and increases by $5 every time after without a cap.
Or no respecs. I'm happy with either. |
BUGSBUNNY LOONEY
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
20
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Posted - 2013.05.19 14:47:00 -
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People forget that once you finish with one class you could start in another class |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2366
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:08:00 -
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The attribute reallocation in Eve is not the same as a typical skill point respec. The attributes in Eve (charisma, perception, intelligence, memory, willpower) affect which skill books that carry these traits can be trained faster. But boosting the speed of one set of skills carries the consequence of seeing all other skill book types take longer to train up. There is absolutely no way to reallocate skill points.
Those of you comparing the Eve reallocation to a respec obviously don't know Eve Online well enough. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
2366
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:11:00 -
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No. No respecs. Not for free and not for sale. Be lucky CCP is giving us one last chance at a respec. So spend your SP wisely. |
Frowning Panda
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
1
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Posted - 2013.05.19 15:50:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:CCP, take my money, but let me respec as many times as I want to.
No that will to pay to win. If you want to be scout,assault,logistics and heavy you have put the work in the like the rest of us. |
Paper Cutter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:12:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:then this game will become boring bc i dont want to be the same class for a whole year. give me one reason why i shouldn't be able to. Because, NO. You want to play the flavor of the month? You best start grinding
^^
+1 for kitten sacrifice as well, cat pee in the summer sun makes me queasy. |
Full Metal Kitten
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
379
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:13:00 -
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No |
Natu Nobilis
BetaMax Beta
CRONOS.
291
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:15:00 -
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No |
FarVision1
the xOutKaStx
5
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:28:00 -
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It's already Pay to Win.
1 AUR = .0004995 USD.
One 30 AUR weapon costs .014c USD. 1.4 cents.
An entire evening playing with one favorite 30 AUR weapon, based on 20 Restocks, each match lasting roughly 15 minutes, at a 2:1 KDR (Which doesn't really mean a lot - I make a ton of WP based on stealth Droppers) means you play for an entire evening for .28 cents.
I've gone out to Happy Hours or Dinners which sucks - and cost me around $30 bucks. For an hour and a half.
This lets me WTF PWN Academy players in Militia gear all day long. Yes, it's beating up on the weak, and yes, you get owned once you start getting into real matches with good players but at the start, it's super fun.
Since the entire premise of Dust is microtransactions, I can see an AUR based skill reset Booster as likely.
We'll probably eventually get into Joken Mystery Boxes / Ferengi Lock Boxes before too long, also.
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EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
1076
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:30:00 -
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Im against it
I wouldnt mind it if they allowed you to do it once a year like they do in EVE with a neural remap but essentially SP actions have a consequence unless CCP **** it up like they have done with uprising |
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Malkai Inos
The Vanguardians
Orion Empire
81
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:39:00 -
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FarVision1 wrote:It's already Pay to Win.
1 AUR = .0004995 USD.
One 30 AUR weapon costs .014c USD. 1.4 cents.
An entire evening playing with one favorite 30 AUR weapon, based on 20 Restocks, each match lasting roughly 15 minutes, at a 2:1 KDR (Which doesn't really mean a lot - I make a ton of WP based on stealth Droppers) means you play for an entire evening for .28 cents.
I've gone out to Happy Hours or Dinners which sucks - and cost me around $30 bucks. For an hour and a half.
This lets me WTF PWN Academy players in Militia gear all day long. Yes, it's beating up on the weak, and yes, you get owned once you start getting into real matches with good players but at the start, it's super fun.
Since the entire premise of Dust is microtransactions, I can see an AUR based skill reset Booster as likely.
We'll probably eventually get into Joken Mystery Boxes / Ferengi Lock Boxes before too long, also.
Contratulations, you've found a way to pay money for a minor advantage (you can barely do kitten with all the AUR gear without getting your fitting skills up to snuff first) within a certain part of the game that is completely void of any lasting impact, other than padding your k/dr and deliberately hurting the NPX of other academy players. Have fun trying to carry your k/dr over to the real games. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3095
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Posted - 2013.05.19 16:39:00 -
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No respecs for any reason except mistakes made in the skill system. Mislabeled skill? Let people refund recent SP investments. Changes to a skill? Let people refund related skills around it. Old skill removed? Refund any SP invested in the tree. New skill added that offers an alternative to an existing skill? Maybe, MAYBE consider letting players transfer investment in the old skill over to a new one (e.g. let players move their AR or Scrambler SP into the Rail Rifle tree when the weapon comes out). Not sure on that, it isn't needed, just something that might be a nice option.
Beyond that, just no. |
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