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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:47:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Every single regnum is above the bar set by the lowest peg of CPM0.
^ The only reason why he doesn't like the CPM because he can't figure out how to control any of them and is certainly not the most sociable fellow to try to understand. Also he doesn't believe in democracy and thinks all your votes are invalidated and none of you should be voting. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:49:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Every single regnum is above the bar set by the lowest peg of CPM0. ^ The only reason why he doesn't like the CPM because he can't figure out how to control any of them and is certainly not the most sociable fellow to try to understand. Also he doesn't believe in democracy and thinks all your votes are invalidated and none of you should be voting. Um what? What a load of bullshit.
Really? You know I asked you to post an IRC conversation we had on the forums and you never did. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 16:54:00 -
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ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:Kaze Eyrou wrote:ReGnUM MiNdReaDeR DEI wrote:Which? Yeah, isn't there like 12 of them now? Well back in the old days it was just four of us me , regnum del , regnum perfections del , and regnum beiber del now there is so many
ReGYuM also |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:06:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:I think we can all agree that CPM0 has too many sheep and not enough wolves.
CCP went with easy picks and easy calls.
I cant blame them
but they did go with the yes men this time around.
CPM Hans is a master at words. True diplomat. By that I mean he can say the meanest nastiest and most awful things, in the most nicest ways and he already had to do that twice already (where as I would not have been as polite). We're not all yes men for the last half a month its been an uphill fight against CCP. Also you forget Nova Knife is the guy that told CCP Hillmar 'FU' in IRC.
Had Hans not been there helping us I doubt https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75833&find=unread this would been posted at all to the context desired. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:13:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Isn't / wasn't Hans CSM in EVE?
Why yes, and I can't thank him quite enough for being aboard for CPM 0 in helping us find our ground. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:21:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:I think we can all agree that CPM0 has too many sheep and not enough wolves.
CCP went with easy picks and easy calls.
I cant blame them
but they did go with the yes men this time around. CPM Hans is a master at words. True diplomat. By that I mean he can say the meanest nastiest and most awful things, in the most nicest ways and he already had to do that twice already (where as I would not have been as polite). We're not all yes men for the last half a month its been an uphill fight against CCP. Also you forget Nova Knife is the guy that told CCP Hillmar 'FU' in IRC. Had Hans not been there helping us I doubt https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75833&find=unread this would been posted at all to the context desired. That is true but if Hans is a wolf hes an Eve wolf if anything he is not a DUST wolf. We needed counter points to the Dust guys on the CPM not the 1 Eve guy. We need some known Dust wolves.
That is one misconception of the CPM I have to say though. It's entirely possible for a non-dust player to be doing our current jobs with the current issues we are most dealing with. While I would like to see Dust players pick CPM of their own destiny it would be unfortunate the people replacing us would think its all about bug fixing this... Balancing act that... Feature Push this.
It doesn't take the Top AR player to tell CCP that Latin American Players are unable to download the game. It doesn't take HAV master to tell CCP that Sony is Fubaring AU and NZ over on the 'imaginary' taxes. It certainly doesn't take the average grunt on the ground to read the forums and tell CCP they screwed up royally somewhere on Uprising expansion, it certainly doesn't take a Genius to tell CCP that not reaching out to the players to figure out where they messed up is a bad move. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:26:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Isn't / wasn't Hans CSM in EVE? Why yes, and I can't thank him quite enough for being aboard for CPM 0 in helping us find our ground. Yea, it's cool that they got him on board to help get things off the ground, have you all made any progress towards figuring out how we're going to go about getting CPM 1 up and running?
Meetings should be starting over that soon now that the ball is rolling on Post-Uprising cleanup. CPM will be asking important questions as to things CCP can or cannot track when it comes to you and your PS3. Since Dust 514 is completely free to play, you can see this being a voter conundrum on who gets a voice and who doesn't.
As far as I am concerned there is no perfect solution, someone legitimate will not be allowed to vote because of it. So the next step is to find the most 'perfect' solution that even if that legitimate person cannot vote this year, he/she would be able to vote the next year at least. The criteria I would like to see is to allow everyone to be able to vote that actively plays and lower the amount of 'vote farming' alts that could vote. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:28:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Isn't / wasn't Hans CSM in EVE? Why yes, and I can't thank him quite enough for being aboard for CPM 0 in helping us find our ground. Yea, it's cool that they got him on board to help get things off the ground, have you all made any progress towards figuring out how we're going to go about getting CPM 1 up and running? Nope, instead they are focusing on tac rifle balance...  http://dustsearch.com/thread/76001
No CCP is, I am just trying to help CCP out so they can get a fuller picture instead of nerfing it on a whim of a whiner.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=813255#post813255
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 17:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:
Meetings should be starting over that soon now that the ball is rolling on Post-Uprising cleanup. CPM will be asking important questions as to things CCP can or cannot track when it comes to you and your PS3. Since Dust 514 is completely free to play, you can see this being a voter conundrum on who gets a voice and who doesn't.
As far as I am concerned there is no perfect solution, someone legitimate will not be allowed to vote because of it. So the next step is to find the most 'perfect' solution that even if that legitimate person cannot vote this year, he/she would be able to vote the next year at least. The criteria I would like to see is to allow everyone to be able to vote that actively plays and lower the amount of 'vote farming' alts that could vote.
Hmm, do you think it's possible to actually track a certain level of activity on a given account, and through that "verify" a player and allow them to submit a vote? If so, the voting system should be 100% in game, with some information or links to information right from your neocom. My only thing is that you could just afk on a bunch of alts to "verify" your account. Hmm, curious indeed.
Yup that's why we need to have the meetings to figure out things and see if it is possible to come up with a metric. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.05.18 18:16:00 -
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2-Ton Twenty-One wrote:I don't want to see any of the CPM fired. I want some other sides of the coin added to the table.
Even 1 in a temporary role would be cool. Why does no CPM want to even consider adding someone with a polarizing view compared to their own?
Its like a single party system in CPM right now.
I think Cazaderon is a pure duster from WTF. Though I don't get much time to talk to him due to time zones. His English is pretty good though and I say he has similar level of love/hate for dust as any Regnum does. |
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