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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:04:00 -
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my shield tank is deprived of PG, i cant even fir it properly, im always short 300 pg which i used to be able to fit.... CCP, does it look like give a sht if you reduce the amount of cpu is used for a pg module.
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
275
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Posted - 2013.05.18 03:27:00 -
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As much as I'd love to get our PG back, I havn't found myself struggling with fittings. |
PADDEhatpigen
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.18 05:33:00 -
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No i think your problem is that you use blasters on your shield tank.
Shield tanks have high CPU and low PG.
Armor tanks have high PG and low CPU.
Railguns and missiles use low PG and high CPU. ( Shield tank )
Blaseters use high PG and low CPU. ( Armor tank )
If you want a light/fast tank with blasters on it then you also have to accept that you are missing PG. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
426
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Posted - 2013.05.18 06:49:00 -
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missiles no where near as effective as blaster due to way to small splash and slow RoF so they are basically still near useless and rail is AV effective only. till that changes blaster are going to be needed for HAVs to support infantry at close range. but the biggest slap to the face is the caldari HAV have way to much armor(not shields) and is causing them to be slower then gallente HAVs. thanks CCP for breaking your own balance. |
Djheffer
O.Q.R.D.
10
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:40:00 -
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As a missle/shield tank, with two 15% pg increase, I have just enough room for the best heavy and light extender, and the best shield booster. If I upgrade to prototype missle maingun, I will lose at least 500 effective health. Thats not so bad, but! I have never been able to fit anything besides those two pg increasers if my primary goal is hit points or more damage. Pretend i wanted any other small module at all... I would have to sacrifice WELL over 1000 effective health and I would have to work with crap missles lol. So its not that bad, but pg modules are hands down better than any other small module and I dont think CCP intended for only one type of small module to be used by shield tanks.
So I vote that somehow they make pg less an issue. Maybe up pg a tiny bit, lower pg mod benifits, and then we would only sacrifice a little to use other small mods. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
1000
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Posted - 2013.05.18 07:59:00 -
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LAVs and Dropships need a PG boost most of all. Nobody with sense enough to spec into actual AV weapons and not just grenades has said they're OP and CCP needs to throw Dropships a bone at this point. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
426
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Posted - 2013.05.18 08:10:00 -
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my LLAV is just fine without the PG.. im not sure how DS are doing but I haven't heard much from that section on the PG being that bad. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.05.18 08:43:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:As much as I'd love to get our PG back, I havn't found myself struggling with fittings.
Then I am willing to say that you are probably using modules that are not meant for Tanks or are using Powergrid Modules, yes? 120mm Plates or a Light Repairer? If you couldn't fit a Standard Assault Rifle, a Standard Shield Extender, and a Standard Shield Regulation on a Standard Assault Suit without a Powergrid Module, do you think people would claim that it is easy to fit a Standard Assault Suit? That is basically what is happening with Tanks at the moment if you try to fit Standard HAV modules into a Standard HAV without a PG Module.
PADDEhatpigen wrote:No i think your problem is that you use blasters on your shield tank.
Shield tanks have high CPU and low PG.
Armor tanks have high PG and low CPU.
Railguns and missiles use low PG and high CPU. ( Shield tank )
Blaseters use high PG and low CPU. ( Armor tank )
If you want a light/fast tank with blasters on it then you also have to accept that you are missing PG.
The Madrugar's 2690 PG (2824.5 with maxed Vehicle Upgrades) cannot fit 3 Blasters (1,200 PG), Standard 180mm Plate (1,160 PG), and a Standard Large Repair (1,120). That's 655 over. Missiles would only reduce the PG need by 260. CPU is not a problem and Circuitry (+5% CPU per level) still exists. Dropsuits don't need to max skills to put Standard gear in Standard Suit. Jeez, my Standard Assault even fits an Advanced AR, 2 Advanced Shield Extenders, and basic Regulators/Nanohive without maxed skills (no Sidearm though). Using Supplemental gear for Plates and Repairer makes you over by 199 (Supplemental modules gives less stats but require less PG/CPU and are Meta Level 2). So a Blaster Tank can fit IF they use Missiles and all Supplemental modules. In otherwords, they cannot fit what the are "supposed to do."
The Gunnlogi has 1805 PG (1,895.25 maxed VU). Missiles take 940 PG, Large Shield Extender is 680 PG, and a Large Booster is 640 PG. Off by 455. Supplemental gear reduces being off to 100 (if you round PG up).
In other words:
1. You cannot fit Standard HAV Modules on a Standard HAV with a PG module.
2. It is incredibly difficult to fit Blasters in either Tank.
Be well. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
428
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Posted - 2013.05.18 09:55:00 -
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lol... and some people get others don't its a worthless fight right now. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3079
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Posted - 2013.05.18 10:27:00 -
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I've found ways to work around this, but signed. |
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Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
91
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:17:00 -
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no body likes missiles.... and rail is fine but i dont want to snipe.... theirs no danger factor in sniping.... + armor tanks are fast now so dont say that armor tanks are slow |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
48
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:21:00 -
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Infantry gets +5% PG per level. They also have weapon proficiencies that reduce PG need. I request that vehicles get the same kind of skills. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
91
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:25:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Infantry gets +5% PG per level. They also have weapon proficiencies that reduce PG need. I request that vehicles get the same kind of skills.
ikr thank you |
NOT slap26
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
62
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Posted - 2013.05.18 15:27:00 -
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signed |
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