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Icedslayer
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:41:00 -
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I want a Dev to tell us there "Official" Stance on Modded controller. Is it BAN-able offence?
I personally think they should be Banned. First offence should be a month, Second Offence 3 Months and Third Offence is Permaband (on the last offence, all your arum is put on a lottery and your inventory is put up on action or combined with lottery)
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:45:00 -
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Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis
League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:48:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES.
This isn't really about semantics...
I understand what Iced is saying when he says "modded."
Regardless, I say Ban 'em. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:49:00 -
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can't do anything about it but nerf the fire rate of semi auto weapons.
How are you gonna ban someone using a mouse with the scroll wheel as the trigger? It's not modded, it's part of what make a mouse.
Nerf ROF and problem solved. No need to ban people and all that drama. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:51:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES.
Don't go full short bus. Even if you buy them at 'official stores', they're still modded controllers in every sense of the word.
However CCP is, afaics, aiming at making OP controllers (e.g. KB/M, rapid-fire, etc) work on the same level as standard controllers through limiting how quickly the clone can turn, fire, etc in-game. |
Icedslayer
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Posted - 2013.05.15 22:57:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:can't do anything about it but nerf the fire rate of semi auto weapons.
How are you gonna ban someone using a mouse with the scroll wheel as the trigger? It's not modded, it's part of what make a mouse.
Nerf ROF and problem solved. No need to ban people and all that drama.
Using a mouse or Modded controller are completely different.
Even if your using the Scroll wheel it takes some degree of skill using, and modded controller takes ZERO SKILL.. Second i'am asking CCP if they're allowing this and what there response to users could and should be. Third i agree that weapons like the TAC AR need a super nerf to there fire rate and a huge increase to there recoil and dispersion |
Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:03:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:can't do anything about it but nerf the fire rate of semi auto weapons.
How are you gonna ban someone using a mouse with the scroll wheel as the trigger? It's not modded, it's part of what make a mouse.
Nerf ROF and problem solved. No need to ban people and all that drama. Using a mouse or Modded controller are completely different. Even if your using the Scroll wheel it takes some degree of skill using, and modded controller takes ZERO SKILL.. Second i'am asking CCP if they're allowing this and what there response to users could and should be. Third i agree that weapons like the TAC AR need a super nerf to there fire rate and a huge increase to there recoil and dispersion
how are they different when it is being used in the same manner?
- Hold down R1 for repeated trigger response.
- Scroll wheel for repeated trigger response.
Same reason for using it. Bringing skill into the equation really doesn't change the mechanic of the gun. It shoots like a full auto AR, when it's not meant to be.
Using modded controllers has always been against rules, but how often have you seen a dev ban someone for it? People always gonna exploit game mechanics in any way possible. It's up to the dev to minimize this.
One sure way of doing this is to balance the ******* gun. Lower the ROF and in doing so it renders using a modded controller useless. |
Zeylon Rho
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:05:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES. Don't go full short bus. Even if you buy them at 'official stores', they're still modded controllers in every sense of the word. However CCP is, afaics, aiming at making OP controllers (e.g. KB/M, rapid-fire, etc) work on the same level as standard controllers through limiting how quickly the clone can turn, fire, etc in-game.
Modded controllers in every sense of the word? They came off a manufacturing line. They're stock. In some cases they're even first party and licensed. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:08:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES. Don't go full short bus. Even if you buy them at 'official stores', they're still modded controllers in every sense of the word. However CCP is, afaics, aiming at making OP controllers (e.g. KB/M, rapid-fire, etc) work on the same level as standard controllers through limiting how quickly the clone can turn, fire, etc in-game. Modded controllers in every sense of the word? They came off a manufacturing line. They're stock. In some cases they're even first party and licensed.
First party licensed? 
So MS and Sony sent their controllers out to be modded and sold? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:09:00 -
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No. No ban hammers. Not in this case unless the player is directly hacking or manipulating the server. For the common case of modded controllers, the best solution is to impose a limiter on the rate of fire.
Call of Duty suffers the problem of modded controllers because they lack limiters. I have a modded controller for the Xbox 360 and I can turn the pistol into a submachine gun in COD. In Halo, the modded controller can't do any better than a regular certified controller because Halo has limiters on the rate of fire.
DUST can adopt this limiter mechanic and end the problem.
Of course you won't see me use a modded controller for DUST because, let's face it. When have you ever seen me pick up a gun? Even the nova knives feel like they have a limiter imposed. |
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TheMarkOf22
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:13:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:I want a Dev to tell us there "Official" Stance on Modded controller. Is it BAN-able offence?
I personally think they should be Banned. First offence should be a month, Second Offence 3 Months and Third Offence is Permaband (on the last offence, all your arum is put on a lottery and your inventory is put up on action or combined with lottery)
Modded controllers (turbo) don't help and to prove it were going to attack and take every single district of STB's |
Domingo Cervezas
Cult of the Warrior
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:28:00 -
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I always do a search before posting a bug or a problem. 
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=800087#post800087 |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:41:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Why call them modded controllers? They're turbo controllers. Mod implies a custom job. You can buy turbo controllers at Gamestop, Amazon, Walmart, etc. They're not exactly DIY marvels. They're an item that available just about anywhere that's existed at least since Nintendo was releasing their own back on the NES. Don't go full short bus. Even if you buy them at 'official stores', they're still modded controllers in every sense of the word. However CCP is, afaics, aiming at making OP controllers (e.g. KB/M, rapid-fire, etc) work on the same level as standard controllers through limiting how quickly the clone can turn, fire, etc in-game. Modded controllers in every sense of the word? They came off a manufacturing line. They're stock. In some cases they're even first party and licensed. First party licensed? So MS and Sony sent their controllers out to be modded and sold?
The point is that they weren't modded. They're turbo controllers by design. That's why modded is a silly term to use.
You can get a turbo function two ways:
A) Some company manufacturers a turbo controller for that purpose. The controllers are designed that way from the get-go. In the case of some, like even the early NES Max or NES Advantage - they're first party controllers. Calling these modded is misleading. Non-first party licensed manufacturers like Hori also make turbo controllers, and they're not modified Dualshocks.
B) Someone modifies an existing controller to make a custom-modded controller. You find sites for this if you search for "Modded controller". If you look at these sites, you'll note they're typically taking a stock controller (like the Dual Shock 3) and "modifying" it. They did not make the controllers from scratch, and they are most certainly not licensed to do so. You can get various functions by modifying a controller, but turbo is the only one that people care about here.
So, both A & B are turbo controllers, but only one of them is a "modded" controller.
So, call them turbo controllers. They don't have to be modded to have turbo. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood
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Posted - 2013.05.15 23:45:00 -
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TheMarkOf22 wrote:Icedslayer wrote:I want a Dev to tell us there "Official" Stance on Modded controller. Is it BAN-able offence?
I personally think they should be Banned. First offence should be a month, Second Offence 3 Months and Third Offence is Permaband (on the last offence, all your arum is put on a lottery and your inventory is put up on action or combined with lottery)
Modded controllers (turbo) don't help and to prove it were going to attack and take every single district of STB's
I don't see any of your districts, where are you located? |
Geth Massredux
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:03:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:I want a Dev to tell us there "Official" Stance on Modded controller. Is it BAN-able offence?
I personally think they should be Banned. First offence should be a month, Second Offence 3 Months and Third Offence is Permaband (on the last offence, all your arum is put on a lottery and your inventory is put up on action or combined with lottery)
It would be funny if nobody uses a modded controller for the TAC AR, and just have a good trigger finger...
LMAO
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Cenex Langly
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:16:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:can't do anything about it but nerf the fire rate of semi auto weapons.
How are you gonna ban someone using a mouse with the scroll wheel as the trigger? It's not modded, it's part of what make a mouse.
Nerf ROF and problem solved. No need to ban people and all that drama.
What he said. an ingame ROF nerf would make modded controllers absolutely useless. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:29:00 -
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Ocelot will know when you use a turbo controller. |
General John Ripper
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Posted - 2013.05.16 00:44:00 -
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SoxFour, can you give us an answer?
I am curious to know what you plan to do about this, if anything at all?
I dont want to respec into duvolle tacticals if they are going to get nerfed |
Lurchasaurus
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Posted - 2013.05.16 02:17:00 -
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If CCP doesnt fix the modded controller problem before PC fires up then PC is going to be the biggest joke on earth. All there will be is one team with 16 duvolle tacticals against another team of duvolle tacticals.
Modded controllers on COD is one thing. No one gives a **** about the match. In Dust when we are supposed to have a persistent environment with land grabs and such the side with the modded controllers will win simply due to game breaking tacticals. Ive already heard of a corp whos a team is full of guys using MCs, every single one of em. |
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