DUST Search - some giggle time for us vets

Kaze Eyrou wrote:

Acturus Galaxy wrote:

This is sad, are you really that bad at playing Dust that you have to create an alt and play in the rookie matches to get any kills? Stop for god damned sake to pubstomb the new players, try and help them instead of chasing them away. You might actually be able to find new recruits for your corp instead of making you and your corp look like immature kids.

Immature kids

Goonfeet

These are Goons from EVE. Many EVE players have expressed their disgust at Dust 514. So obviously, they will run around the newbie area grieving the new players.

Personally, I understand the concept of New Eden's HTFU policy and this was introduced to me when I lost a s**tfit ship.

But then there is the Help channel in EVE. Any claim of HTFU is met with a resounding GTFO (unless they did something that was in stupidity instead of ignorance).

That's what I see the Instant Battle Academy as - Dust 514's equivalent of EVE's Help channel. Unfortunately, it lacks the moderation that the help channel has.

Goons see this and are attempting to kill off the game by exploiting this. And they are succeeding from the looks of it. Straight

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Jikt Terlen Certificate of Participation 19	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:45:00 - [31] - Quote They're going to need more than a WP- or SP-limited game type if they want to give new players a better way to learn. But ultimately, there are only going to be so many big kids who want to beat up little kids on the playground, as everyone else considers it boring and pathetic, so I doubt this is a huge issue. There's no good way to curtail this sad behavior, other than counseling and medication, since new players will also want to experiment with LAVs and everything else. CCP doesn't actually want to curtail griefing, which it considers "emergent gameplay." The important thing is to remove the gear advantage, which the Instant Battle Academy does. There's really no way to adjust for skill/experience advantage unless you introduce a tiered system that automatically moves players up the ladder based on performance (i.e. if you go 20-0 multiple games in a row, you will no longer get put into games with the people you've just been stomping). And since CCP hasn't implemented such a thing in the larger game, I don't see that happening in the noob zone anytime soon.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 315	Posted - 2013.05.15 17:56:00 - [32] - Quote LOL at this thread. Really, come on. Getting run over isn't going to turn off a newbie. Hell, it might even intrigue them. I've been run over many times and I've never thrown my controller down and said. "OMG@YGH#GQ HATE HATE HATE QUIT" No. I laugh out loud that I got run over by a car and respawn. This is just carebear complaining. HTFU Keep on trucking
Panoscape BurgezzE.T.F Orion Empire 133	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:08:00 - [33] - Quote Run over me once, shame on you. Run over me twice, shame on me. Adapt and find ways to kill LAV's with free fits, ie: free AV fit, hacked AV nads, counter LAV, ladder + free swarms... They will learn, it's called the academy for a reason.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire 48	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:09:00 - [34] - Quote I laughed so hard at this it literally brought tears to my eye. Im still laughing. Its just so wrong lmao.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:09:00 - [35] - Quote hooc order wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: One PS3 should get one account with three toons and that's it. Use the mac address or some other unique identifier. Brilliant...so now people with only one PS3 in the house cannot have their own Dust accounts. CCP should hire you for their console marketing team. Then offer an extra account for a price. Unlimited free accounts are bad for the game. Items that are given out as prizes or bonuses are claimed my multiple accounts and transferred to one account, starting ISK can be transferred from brand new accounts to old accounts to make ISK for free and anyone can have 20 alts sitting as spies in 20 different corps. Seems like kind of a bad idea. Yes, I know that there is no way to transfer anything from one toon to another. Except for donating to a corp and then the corp pays a merc. Point is there is free money and equipment flying out the door and I could be building a 10M SP clone right now that will be a sleeper waiting to join the noob matches and stomp on them because I have 10M SP and no WP.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon Plus 311	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:12:00 - [36] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: This is sad, are you really that bad at playing Dust that you have to create an alt and play in the rookie matches to get any kills? Stop for god damned sake to pubstomb the new players, try and help them instead of chasing them away. You might actually be able to find new recruits for your corp instead of making you and your corp look like immature kids. This, this so much. I have been in the academy mode, but I now refuse to shoot because it's so ludicrously easy. I do go there to train newbies in my corp, but it's just sad having a vet in a noobmatch.
mollerz s1ck3r Corp 254	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:17:00 - [37] - Quote If getting killed turned people off to this game no one would play. It's like people forget we are playing a FPS war game. Why is there this obsession in some ways of dying are ok and some are not. it's silly, overblown, and doesn't mean a damn thing. Outside of the OPs fun time, of course.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 267	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:22:00 - [38] - Quote It's not overly fun to be killed repeatedly... before learning the basics of the game and having a chance to figure out how to have a chance to fight back.
The Robot Devil BetaMax. CRONOS. 229	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:34:00 - [39] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: It's not overly fun to be killed repeatedly... before learning the basics of the game and having a chance to figure out how to have a chance to fight back. It does suck to die over and over but that is where the need of community sets in. We should be helping our noob brothers and sisters learn the basics and how to team play. We should be advertising and offer help in channels instead of creating new accounts just to laugh at a new players ignorance and weapon limitations.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4117	Posted - 2013.05.15 18:36:00 - [40] - Quote Step 6 implement account wide bans.

ca ronic Moffit Bros 11	Posted - 2013.05.15 19:51:00 - [41] - Quote Right, it hurts worse when its your 150,000 isk proto suit that got smashed. They dont really have much in the way of AV to work with though with everything being so expensive now.
First Prophet UItramarine Corp 88	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:14:00 - [42] - Quote They get free unlimited Swarm launchers, in free unlimited suits conveniently labeled anti-vehicle. This is what the academy is for. If they can't put two and two together to take down a militia lav, what hope do they have in Dust?
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 453	Posted - 2013.05.15 20:17:00 - [43] - Quote Step 1 start an alt Step 2 start a game in accadamy with no invested skill points Step 3 spawn as swarm launcher default Step 4 shoot the noob LAVs for your free kills safe in the knowledge that everyone thinks there will be no av support Step 5 laugh your ass off and collect your tears. I like my version better.
Cruor Abominare Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 28	Posted - 2013.05.15 21:07:00 - [44] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Step 6 implement account wide bans. Step 7, be sad you're on cpm.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 170	Posted - 2013.05.15 21:49:00 - [45] - Quote Just an after thought if every one done this once then stopped. How many of the newberrys do you think woukd speck into AV nades or proper AV simply to stop the oncoming hoards of murder taxis ? Giving us tankers a bit more of a run for our isk ?
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 21:52:00 - [46] - Quote Acturus Galaxy wrote: This is sad, are you really that bad at playing Dust that you have to create an alt and play in the rookie matches to get any kills? Stop for god damned sake to pubstomb the new players, try and help them instead of chasing them away. You might actually be able to find new recruits for your corp instead of making you and your corp look like immature kids. Immature kids Goonfeet These are Goons from EVE. Many EVE players have expressed their disgust at Dust 514. So obviously, they will run around the newbie area grieving the new players. Personally, I understand the concept of New Eden's HTFU policy and this was introduced to me when I lost a s**tfit ship. But then there is the Help channel in EVE. Any claim of HTFU is met with a resounding GTFO (unless they did something that was in stupidity instead of ignorance). That's what I see the Instant Battle Academy as - Dust 514's equivalent of EVE's Help channel. Unfortunately, it lacks the moderation that the help channel has. Goons see this and are attempting to kill off the game by exploiting this. And they are succeeding from the looks of it.
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 21:56:00 - [47] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Step 6 implement account wide bans. Ooh. Are you possibly hinting at something?
Kaze Eyrou ROGUE SPADES EoN. 201	Posted - 2013.05.15 21:58:00 - [48] - Quote Cruor Abominare wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Step 6 implement account wide bans. Step 7, be sad you're on cpm. Step 8, move to CoD and BF forums and complain that games are now $80 a pop because of new gen consoles.
DJINN leukoplast Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 443	Posted - 2013.05.15 22:22:00 - [49] - Quote Step 1: CCP Uses the highest WP character on your account to prohibit or allow Academy access, no matter what alt you use. Step 2: CCP Records your IP address and/or any other unique PS3 identification they have access to. Step 3: CCP limits your access to academy no matter what PSN you use on that PS3 and on that connection. Step 4: Profit. Newberries don't get harassed by bitter vets and continue to play, they get addicted, buy some AUR ,and are now playing the game for the long run.
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 82	Posted - 2013.05.15 22:25:00 - [50] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: This is sad, are you really that bad at playing Dust that you have to create an alt and play in the rookie matches to get any kills? Stop for god damned sake to pubstomb the new players, try and help them instead of chasing them away. You might actually be able to find new recruits for your corp instead of making you and your corp look like immature kids. Immature kids Goonfeet These are Goons from EVE. Many EVE players have expressed their disgust at Dust 514. So obviously, they will run around the newbie area grieving the new players. Personally, I understand the concept of New Eden's HTFU policy and this was introduced to me when I lost a s**tfit ship. But then there is the Help channel in EVE. Any claim of HTFU is met with a resounding GTFO (unless they did something that was in stupidity instead of ignorance). That's what I see the Instant Battle Academy as - Dust 514's equivalent of EVE's Help channel. Unfortunately, it lacks the moderation that the help channel has. Goons see this and are attempting to kill off the game by exploiting this. And they are succeeding from the looks of it. well there is the dust university

Garrek Ithalgoh Opus Arcana Orion Empire 5	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:40:00 - [51] - Quote Robert JD Niewiadomski wrote: I once was run over with a style Was standing on the hill side at Manus Peak, spamming MD. Then LAV jumped at my back whizzing into the air after running me over. It was before Uprising so i could watch them while bleeding out. The LAV made a barrell midair then landed on its wheels and gone for some more mow . I remember i felt no regret for being killed this way, lol. I, too, was killed in an epic way by an LAV. I was running under the tabletop in one of the maps on Ambush (I forgot the name of the map). I saw an LAV heading towards me, but I dodged it, and then proceeded to shoot at an enemy merc that was in front of me with my scrambler pistol. I took his health down pretty low, and he took down my shields. But the split second before I landed the final shot, the guy seemed to stop and look at me, as if he knew something. Right before I pulled the trigger again, that LAV from before slammed into my side, killing me instantly. I'm pretty sure that I heard the guy I was shooting at laughing in his mind.
DigiOps Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 244	Posted - 2013.05.15 23:50:00 - [52] - Quote Good. Teach them to get at least rudimentary AV gear early.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 171	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:19:00 - [53] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: I laughed so hard at this it literally brought tears to my eye. Im still laughing. Its just so wrong lmao. Bet this guy went home an tryed it.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1531	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:28:00 - [54] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Step 6 implement account wide bans. Your security skills are as lacking as jenzas...
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp Orion Empire 50	Posted - 2013.05.16 00:53:00 - [55] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: I laughed so hard at this it literally brought tears to my eye. Im still laughing. Its just so wrong lmao. Bet this guy went home an tryed it. Lol no I only have one account...tempting but no. If I do this at all it is against protos in pub matches.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 4121	Posted - 2013.05.16 05:38:00 - [56] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Step 6 implement account wide bans. Your security skills are as lacking as jenzas... Not my Department, CCP Seegres is pretty good about nailing people behind NAT and firewalls with rotary MAC and IP addresses.
charlesnette dalari Creative Killers 211	Posted - 2013.05.16 05:57:00 - [57] - Quote You pathetic idiots that are doing this should be banned. You are in no way useful to the community. As far as I am concerned you are a waste of the air you breathe. CCP please wake up and do something about the children that are ruining the future of this game for you and those of us that actually want to see it last past the first 5 reviewers that get run over by one of the morons. or the thousands of players that wont come out of the academy Because They quit. While you are at it ban the afkers too they are no better and ultimately are having the same negative effect on the games longevity.
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 121	Posted - 2013.05.16 05:58:00 - [58] - Quote Kaze Eyrou wrote: Acturus Galaxy wrote: This is sad, are you really that bad at playing Dust that you have to create an alt and play in the rookie matches to get any kills? Stop for god damned sake to pubstomb the new players, try and help them instead of chasing them away. You might actually be able to find new recruits for your corp instead of making you and your corp look like immature kids. Immature kids Goonfeet These are Goons from EVE. Many EVE players have expressed their disgust at Dust 514. So obviously, they will run around the newbie area grieving the new players. Personally, I understand the concept of New Eden's HTFU policy and this was introduced to me when I lost a s**tfit ship. But then there is the Help channel in EVE. Any claim of HTFU is met with a resounding GTFO (unless they did something that was in stupidity instead of ignorance). That's what I see the Instant Battle Academy as - Dust 514's equivalent of EVE's Help channel. Unfortunately, it lacks the moderation that the help channel has. Goons see this and are attempting to kill off the game by exploiting this. And they are succeeding from the looks of it. Uhhh, the only Goon bro that posted in this thread was the one that said he can run over a proto suit just as easily. There are plenty of Goons playing because they enjoy the game. Quit letting your jealousy of Goon bros result in imagining things.
pegasis prime The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries DARKSTAR ARMY 171	Posted - 2013.05.16 10:29:00 - [59] - Quote Master Jaraiya wrote: pegasis prime wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: I laughed so hard at this it literally brought tears to my eye. Im still laughing. Its just so wrong lmao. Bet this guy went home an tryed it. Lol no I only have one account...tempting but no. If I do this at all it is against protos in pub matches. Go on ... you know deep down inside you want to if you havent already .as mentiondbin this thread it might even encourage or inspire rudimentry av usage.
Anax 01 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2013.05.16 14:15:00 - [60] - Quote Daedric Lothar wrote: No. I laugh out loud that I got run over by a car and respawn. I call bullshit. Quote: Getting run over is fun, getting protostomped is not fun. Know what's even more fun? Watching that AV nade flying through the air, landing on the LAVs path and then the LAV vanishing in a cloud of smoke. The +50 and +40 that follow are fun too! Getting run over, fun? Only if you're a masochist.



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