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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 22:07:00 -
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I would like to make one important suggestion to the developers, CPM and we the beta testers for the sake of Dust 514's future:
No more nerfing.
Instead, we should be brainstorming suggestions to reinforce other gaming mechanics to compensate what we all perceive as imbalanced, broken, or outright OP. As an EVE Online subscriber for 5 years, I have full faith in CCP's track record in striving for a perfect imbalance through a flourishing cyclic meta game and healthy counter play that is both fun and challenging for both sides of the battlefield.
For the past 2 years, Dust 514 has degraded from an arms race to a nerf war and the only meta game present has been the ensuing flame wars on the forums. Each suit, vehicle, and weapon class should have advantages over each other for the sake of balance and the tactical aspects of this game. Each class should present a dynamic aesthetic that should inspire an incentive for variety on the battlefield and should be respected for those differences, not shunned for said advantages. If we all do our part to preserve this valuable aspect of the game, Dust 514 will have the vast future that we are all hoping for. |
Vethosis
Universal Allies Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 22:08:00 -
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BUFF THE MASS DRIVERS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND CHARGE SNIPER RIFLES |
DS 10
G I A N T
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:06:00 -
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Vethosis wrote:BUFF THE MASS DRIVERS FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND CHARGE SNIPER RIFLES NEED TO BE RIDDED FROM THIS GAME. THANK YOU.
I think your Caps Lock button is broken. As well as your 1/! key. |
Icy Xenosmilus
Eyniletti Rangers
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:08:00 -
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Well, it's too late to go back, but no nerfing massively as of now.
I think they need to take the Duvolle Tactical AR, work on balancing the other Prototype weapons accordingly, and then move on through the ranks.
Best way to balance. Also, remove sights that people hate. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:11:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:I would like to make one important suggestion to the developers, CPM and we the beta testers for the sake of Dust 514's future:
No more nerfing.
Instead, we should be brainstorming suggestions to reinforce other gaming mechanics to compensate what we all perceive as imbalanced, broken, or outright OP. As an EVE Online subscriber for 5 years, I have full faith in CCP's track record in striving for a perfect imbalance through a flourishing cyclic meta game and healthy counter play that is both fun and challenging for both sides of the battlefield.
For the past 2 years, Dust 514 has degraded from an arms race to a nerf war and the only meta game present has been the ensuing flame wars on the forums. Each suit, vehicle, and weapon class should have advantages over each other for the sake of balance and the tactical aspects of this game. Each class should present a dynamic aesthetic that should inspire an incentive for variety on the battlefield and should be respected for those differences, not shunned for said advantages. If we all do our part to preserve this valuable aspect of the game, Dust 514 will have the vast future that we are all hoping for.
but but but power creep |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:12:00 -
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My suggestion list in response, its basically the same thing.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=75137&find=unread
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.05.09 23:57:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:
Bro, do you even EVE? |
Nova Knife
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:15:00 -
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Basically what was said above : Power creep. Anyone who has played eve knows that CCP rarely 'just' buffs something. And now that Fozzie has taken the reigns, while some stuff gets buffed, others are being nerfed and a baseline is being solidified.
It's much better to nerf towards a baseline (Note : Baseline ideally being "NOT USELESS" which CCP has only started to grasp in terms of dust) than it is to consistently buff gear and make things progressively stronger and stronger. It's much easier to work with small numbers than to go hyperbolic like some other MMO's do. (I do not want to see AR's doing 10k DPS in a few years from now, etc.)
That said... A lot of things in their current state I will agree are in dire need of a buff. Others, still in a dire need of a nerf after getting crazy buffed in uprising. See : Nova Knives. If you haven't touched them this build, they are OP as hell right now. For the record, I told them immediately at fanfest to nerf them as soon as I touched the build :P
Some stuff has needed nerfs from day 1 but was always being nerfed/tweaked in the 'wrong' ways that didn't address the issues. See : Vehicle turrets.
Balance is a much more complicated issue than simply buffing, nerfing, or 'reinforcing' towards a baseline.
I am always looking for balance feedback, though.
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.10 00:47:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote: Bro, do you even EVE?
Kinda the point Cosgar. Fact you and others keep coming in here trying to make Dust like EVE is exactly the point. Or the least fight the veteran FPS community on how to make a better FPS experience.
But hey perhaps we should start flooding EVE forums with that because lets face it we are one universe now so these are things i see in DUST so why not EVE too. |
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