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Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:06:00 -
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I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been needed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. |
Deluxe Edition
TeamPlayers EoN.
151
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:21:00 -
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Tell me... what weapons do new players use? Did they not nerf their weapons?
Also tell me how you've been slighted by a few million SP head start?
I'm not sure how AV got screwed over at all......
The vehicle SP problem with engineering is nothing more than a bug, one that CCP has communicated that they are working on a fix for.
So calm down, or don't let the door hit you on the way out.
They have confirmed their will be another respec, most likely when all the heavy suits are released.
So calm down Mr. Dey tuk er Jerbs! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1237
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:22:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please.
Most of the vets are staying. They don't care. You will find them inventing new ways to make noobs QQ. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
380
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:22:00 -
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The only thing the OP has been screwed by is his or her expectations. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:27:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. Most of the vets are staying. They don't care. You will find them inventing new ways to make noobs QQ. Sorry but heavy suit was the only suit I cared to play and it's garbage now. Heavy vets are already leaving - Imps and Pink and Fluffy have already lost several who refuse to play. I'm almost on board with them myself from the frustration of trying to use HMG.
And before people go off on a rant - HMG is what broke the heavy. Ask the forge gunners if they think they're a viable anti-infantry weapon. Then ask HMG users if camping is fun. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1238
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:30:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Sorry but heavy suit was the only suit I cared to play and it's garbage now. Heavy vets are already leaving - Imps and Pink and Fluffy have already lost several who refuse to play. I'm almost on board with them myself from the frustration of trying to use HMG.
And before people go off on a rant - HMG is what broke the heavy. Ask the forge gunners if they think they're a viable anti-infantry weapon. Then ask HMG users if camping is fun.
Good for EoN in PC and FW .
BTW there is a solution to the heavy predicament. We have tried it on our heavies and it works like a charm.
However if you are no R*S, you don't get that information
Edit: Don't get me wrong. I am with you heavies all the way. |
SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
110
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:34:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:Sorry but heavy suit was the only suit I cared to play and it's garbage now. Heavy vets are already leaving - Imps and Pink and Fluffy have already lost several who refuse to play. I'm almost on board with them myself from the frustration of trying to use HMG.
And before people go off on a rant - HMG is what broke the heavy. Ask the forge gunners if they think they're a viable anti-infantry weapon. Then ask HMG users if camping is fun. Good for EoN in PC and FW . BTW there is a solution to the heavy predicament. We have tried it on our heavies and it works like a charm. However if you are no R*S, you don't get that information Edit: Don't get me wrong. I am with you heavies all the way. putting 1 damage mod on an AR isn't a solution scrub - neither is murder taxi lol :P |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
212
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:34:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:BTW there is a solution to the heavy predicament. We have tried it on our heavies and it works like a charm. However if you are no R*S, you don't get that information
So, you adapted instead of QQing? |
Charlotte O'Dell
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
324
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:36:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. Most of the vets are staying. They don't care. You will find them inventing new ways to make noobs QQ. Sorry but heavy suit was the only suit I cared to play and it's garbage now. Heavy vets are already leaving - Imps and Pink and Fluffy have already lost several who refuse to play. I'm almost on board with them myself from the frustration of trying to use HMG. And before people go off on a rant - HMG is what broke the heavy. Ask the forge gunners if they think they're a viable anti-infantry weapon. Then ask HMG users if camping is fun.
I love this game for the tanks. If they don't fix them, pretty much the entire vehicle population will follow me out.
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1238
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:37:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:putting 1 damage mod on an AR isn't a solution scrub - neither is murder taxi lol :P
I am totally against damage mods. Damage mods are the reasons why you see so many nerfs. People QQ so much because people have been slapping 3-4 damage mods on weapons.
LOL @ chargedsniper with 4 damage mods.
Anyways;- there are actually 3 things you can do with heavies now. 4 if you want to use a damage mod. |
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Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1238
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:38:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:BTW there is a solution to the heavy predicament. We have tried it on our heavies and it works like a charm. However if you are no R*S, you don't get that information So, you adapted instead of QQing?
Marines improvise son ! |
Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
167
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:39:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:putting 1 damage mod on an AR isn't a solution scrub - neither is murder taxi lol :P I am totally against damage mods. Damage mods are the reasons why you see so many nerfs. People QQ so much because people have been slapping 3-4 damage mods on weapons. LOL @ chargedsniper with 4 damage mods. Anyways;- there are actually 3 things you can do with heavies now. 4 if you want to use a damage mod.
Damage mods and SS are responsible for all the weapon nerfs. It's sad how most of the guns are trash now without them. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1506
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:40:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:SoTa of PoP wrote:putting 1 damage mod on an AR isn't a solution scrub - neither is murder taxi lol :P I am totally against damage mods. Damage mods are the reasons why you see so many nerfs. People QQ so much because people have been slapping 3-4 damage mods on weapons. LOL @ chargedsniper with 4 damage mods. Anyways;- there are actually 3 things you can do with heavies now. 4 if you want to use a damage mod.
lolheavies
Sorry Arch, but there's nothing a heavy HMG does better than a duvolle can do. If your guys can put up with it, good on them.
I'm not gonna frustrate myself over that ****. Assault suit, and AR's is what this game is about. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star. EoN.
1238
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolheavies
Sorry Arch, but there's nothing a heavy HMG does better than a duvolle can do. If your guys can put up with it, good on them.
I'm not gonna frustrate myself over that ****. Assault suit, and AR's is what this game is about.
LOL! Not saying that the heavies are not crappy now. But we have worked it out. Talk to 420 and Billy.
And I have been doing really well against ARs. We can talk about it if you want to.
I have already addressed the fact that heavies are way to easy to kill now and CCP is addressing that. |
Heimdallr69
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
178
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:57:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. Most of the vets are staying. They don't care. You will find them inventing new ways to make noobs QQ. ^ this I enjoy jumping the lav's unless I know the corps on the other team then ill try |
XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
118
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:58:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: lolheavies
Sorry Arch, but there's nothing a heavy HMG does better than a duvolle can do. If your guys can put up with it, good on them.
I'm not gonna frustrate myself over that ****. Assault suit, and AR's is what this game is about.
LOL! Not saying that the heavies are not crappy now. But we have worked it out. Talk to 420 and Billy. And I have been doing really well against ARs. We can talk about it if you want to. I have already addressed the fact that heavies are way to easy to kill now and CCP is addressing that. Wait, could you message me in-game what the secret is? I have a heavy alt, but haven't wanted to use it due to the nerf. If it takes 4mill+ sp though I don't need to know. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
244
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:59:00 -
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Forgive me if im wrong but I think match making could help a bit here.
Wait AV was also nerfed? So destroying tanks is harder now. I did notice some issues with trying to destroy a Gunlogi last night but assumed it was because I hadnt hunter such monsters in a while. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2882
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Posted - 2013.05.09 19:59:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. AV: Excuse you? I run AV, and I'm not seeing the nerf? Lasers: Yep Mass Drivers: Yep Heavies: The suit itself got a buff. I think you meant HMGs, which are completely different. Logis: You mean Assault+, who got the super-buff treatment? Really not a nerf there. Shotguns: Only the Breach. Literally no other Shotgun has been impacted in any unexpected manner. Breach Shotguns need a range buff, and that's all. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
598
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:01:00 -
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CCP is usually really big on perfect imbalance, counter play, and the meta game. In EVE, whenever a ship fitting was overused and considered OP, they would buff up another one as a counter and when that one became the FotM, they'd buff another. But in Dust, it's turned into a nerf war, there is no balance because everything but he AR has been nerfed to novelty, the only meta game I see is people crying for nerfs and everyone is annoyed, agitated, or quitting because the niche they were comfortable with was nerfed because from our point of view they're listening to the whiners. It's gotten to the point that most of us are still playing because of the people we play with, not the game itself. Want to know how bad it is? Last night I was in a squad with my friends I've made on here and we spent an hour comparing game libraries to see if we all had the same of one game, (no matter what it was) so we can all go play that together instead of Dust. 4 of us settled on downloading DC Universe Online and had a blast. Yeah, the nerf war frustration in Dust 514 drove us to go play DCUO and have more fun playing that. |
EnIgMa99
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
298
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:05:00 -
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seeing people you cant hit with a gun and being killed by unrendered enemy models. |
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SoTa of PoP
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
111
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:08:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:CCP is usually really big on perfect imbalance, counter play, and the meta game. In EVE, whenever a ship fitting was overused and considered OP, they would buff up another one as a counter and when that one became the FotM, they'd buff another. But in Dust, it's turned into a nerf war, there is no balance because everything but he AR has been nerfed to novelty, the only meta game I see is people crying for nerfs and everyone is annoyed, agitated, or quitting because the niche they were comfortable with was nerfed because from our point of view they're listening to the whiners. It's gotten to the point that most of us are still playing because of the people we play with, not the game itself. Want to know how bad it is? Last night I was in a squad with my friends I've made on here and we spent an hour comparing game libraries to see if we all had the same of one game, (no matter what it was) so we can all go play that together instead of Dust. 4 of us settled on downloading DC Universe Online and had a blast. Yeah, the nerf war frustration in Dust 514 drove us to go play DCUO and have more fun playing that. Not a bad idea - I've a T2 PvP Fire Tank Villain. We should all hook up.
GG Dust, I'll be back when you're done nerfing everything with your precious pub data.
Thanks for the forums though - great place to troll. |
Polish Hammer
Conspiratus Immortalis League of Infamy
379
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:09:00 -
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The sense of entitlement around here is staggering.... |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
599
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Posted - 2013.05.09 20:36:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Cosgar wrote:CCP is usually really big on perfect imbalance, counter play, and the meta game. In EVE, whenever a ship fitting was overused and considered OP, they would buff up another one as a counter and when that one became the FotM, they'd buff another. But in Dust, it's turned into a nerf war, there is no balance because everything but he AR has been nerfed to novelty, the only meta game I see is people crying for nerfs and everyone is annoyed, agitated, or quitting because the niche they were comfortable with was nerfed because from our point of view they're listening to the whiners. It's gotten to the point that most of us are still playing because of the people we play with, not the game itself. Want to know how bad it is? Last night I was in a squad with my friends I've made on here and we spent an hour comparing game libraries to see if we all had the same of one game, (no matter what it was) so we can all go play that together instead of Dust. 4 of us settled on downloading DC Universe Online and had a blast. Yeah, the nerf war frustration in Dust 514 drove us to go play DCUO and have more fun playing that. Not a bad idea - I've a T2 PvP Fire Tank Villain. We should all hook up. GG Dust, I'll be back when you're done nerfing everything with your precious pub data. Thanks for the forums though - great place to troll. I deleted my old toons to prevent myself from coming back. But I can get my gadget controller ready for endgame in another week. All us us dusters should start a guild. With our teamwork experience, we could probably overtake the villains for once in PVP. |
Mobias Wyvern
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.07.06 03:56:00 -
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Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this.........
Planetside 2
Coming to PS4 this year
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XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error. League of Infamy
2227
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Posted - 2013.07.06 03:59:00 -
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Deluxe Edition wrote:Tell me... what weapons do new players use? Did they not nerf their weapons?
Also tell me how you've been slighted by a few million SP head start?
I'm not sure how AV got screwed over at all......
The vehicle SP problem with engineering is nothing more than a bug, one that CCP has communicated that they are working on a fix for.
So calm down, or don't let the door hit you on the way out.
They have confirmed their will be another respec, most likely when all the heavy suits are released.
So calm down Mr. Dey tuk er Jerbs!
You have news on the heavy suit? |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
64
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Posted - 2013.07.06 04:03:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. AV: Excuse you? I run AV, and I'm not seeing the nerf? Lasers: Yep Mass Drivers: Yep Heavies: The suit itself got a buff. I think you meant HMGs, which are completely different. Logis: You mean Assault+, who got the super-buff treatment? Really not a nerf there. Shotguns: Only the Breach. Literally no other Shotgun has been impacted in any unexpected manner. Breach Shotguns need a range buff, and that's all. fat suits my friend are being demolished by the flaylock and the massdriver couple that with everyone switching to shield suits (hmgs do shite against shields ) and with no other racial variant to spec into we may be a dying breed ... but its ok thats what the cod players want right |
oso tiburon
The Generals EoN.
64
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Posted - 2013.07.06 04:07:00 -
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SoTa of PoP wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:Charlotte O'Dell wrote:I represent a small portion of the community that has been screwed over by CCP this build (vehicles). But let's not forget the other players: AV LASERS MASS DRIVERS HEAVIES LOGIS SNIPERS SHOTGUNS
the list goes on.
We have all been nerfed, lied to, or robbed of SP after we invested in it (recent tank SP problem). CCP wants to keep new players, but can't BC they're getting stomped by vets. So they nerf the vets' weapons. Now the vets are leaving. So now casuals won't stay. Vets won't stay. That leaves maybe 1-2k peopld? Not a whole lot. CCP, first off, if we don't get another respec, half your player base will leave, so only the most hardcore 13+ mil guys will be left to pub stomp us new players. Comments, please. Most of the vets are staying. They don't care. You will find them inventing new ways to make noobs QQ. Sorry but heavy suit was the only suit I cared to play and it's garbage now. Heavy vets are already leaving - Imps and Pink and Fluffy have already lost several who refuse to play. I'm almost on board with them myself from the frustration of trying to use HMG. And before people go off on a rant - HMG is what broke the heavy. Ask the forge gunners if they think they're a viable anti-infantry weapon. Then ask HMG users if camping is fun. hmg= broken AGAIN forge = hardly viable i may heed the call of exit back to the land of xenomorphs and the sulaco
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