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Zero Harpuia
WarRavens
Orion Empire
443
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:21:00 -
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When we look at many things in my chosen profession of Logistics, we see a decent number of barriers sue to asshats abusing the mechanics to farm WP. The thing is, that has killed a great deal of the drive to get better tier stuff for us. We don't get WP for repairing structures, so who'd buy a Stable Repper? (moot point since Stable Reppers are gone but still). We get no WP from vehicle reps, so why buy an Axis Repper? We get less WP the faster we heal, so why get the better meta level tools? We get a solid hardcap on the WP we can get in a certain amount of time as well, on top of all the other crap. What's a Logi to do?
So, what is the problem? It isn't Logis, they just want to heal things and prevent loss. We can't stop asshats from farming, so we have to accept there will be SOME kind of way to fight it. So here it is. Change what WP do.
Quick review, War Points are dualfold: they show how many Sp you will earn after a battle, but this is hardcapped. They also lead to the eventual Precision and Orbital Strikes, which is why the Logi got smacked with a particularly blunt hammer. REMOVE THIS SECOND FUNCTION. It makes no sense. Let the farmers farm, they'll just hit their SP cap faster and then leave us alone until reset. Make the Strikes work on cooldown timers, like the Mortars in MAG did.
I want you to imagine this scenario real quick
Corp: We need you to kill everyone in this outpost so we can take it for our own.
Mercs: Alright, simple enough. Any support?
C: We will be supplying an orbital bomber for battlefield support.
M: Great, leave it to us, we'll...
C: Also, we'll only let you call in support from the bomber when one of your squads meets an arbitrary performance goal.
M: ....wait, what? Why?
C: .....I have no idea..... |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens
Orion Empire
443
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:15:00 -
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While I'm at it, let players get SP from doing Corp Matches, and you'd better let them get SP from PC. Players not getting any progression from the main selling points of the game, instead being forced to pub random matches to advance is just stupid. I know you're worried that the two sides will just grind WP instead of fight, and yaknow what I say to that?
....yea, yea they will. What's the problem?
There is still an SP cap, and you can't force yourself past it but so much. Just let them do their grinding, they WILL find some other way to do so if you don't. This also has the added benefit of removing AFK farmers because they'll have already capped out, so win/win. |
Chris F2112
187.
Unclaimed.
161
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:32:00 -
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First, is it not enough of a point to get a better repair tool just so you can help your team more? One of the people in my corp runs with a core focused repair tool (105 hp/s) and I love it. We do much better as a whole each match because of it.
If it was only a timer for the orbital there would be far too many of them. That would be worse than the current system, with every crappy player calling in orbitals just cause they are in a squad.
I agree that there should be SP gained in PC battles. And boosting can still be done in faction war battles.
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Denak Kalamari
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
128
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:44:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:
I want you to imagine this scenario real quick
Corp: We need you to kill everyone in this outpost so we can take it for our own.
Mercs: Alright, simple enough. Any support?
C: We will be supplying an orbital bomber for battlefield support.
M: Great, leave it to us, we'll...
C: Also, we'll only let you call in support from the bomber when one of your squads meets an arbitrary performance goal.
M: ....wait, what? Why?
C: .....I have no idea.....
More humorous example:
Soldier: We're under heavy fire, WE NEED THAT ORBITAL STRIKE!
Commander: Give me twenty more dollars of destroyed squirrels then you get it.
S: Wait, what?
C: Yes, twenty bucks or no orbital.
S: I don't have time for this bullshit, we need that orbit-AH GOD IT BURNS, IT'S BURNING MY EYES, AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
C: Hmph, no orbital then.
But on topic, we don't always need to have things follow common sense in the favor of balance, but I agree, there should be some other way to get orbitals. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
Orion Empire
436
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:While I'm at it, let players get SP from doing Corp Matches, and you'd better let them get SP from PC. Players not getting any progression from the main selling points of the game, instead being forced to pub random matches to advance is just stupid. I know you're worried that the two sides will just grind WP instead of fight, and yaknow what I say to that?
....yea, yea they will. What's the problem?
There is still an SP cap, and you can't force yourself past it but so much. Just let them do their grinding, they WILL find some other way to do so if you don't. This also has the added benefit of removing AFK farmers because they'll have already capped out, so win/win.
You will get SP from PC matches and other than them, there are no corp matches anymore. |
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