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Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:21:00 -
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I will speak about New Eden (EVE+DUST)
I see lots of whining lately. Guys this game is not like other ordinary shooters. It has lots of items and there will be lots more. Balance here is very important, and there will be Hammers pounding on your favorite items regularly. If u dont HTFU and learn to adapt u ll fail in this world.
Dust is not just an ordinary game. U dont play DUST or EVE, u live it and try to reach your goals and be best at something, whatever it will be. If u dont adapt u ll be doomed. If u want smooth mechanics and balanced wpns COD, BF3 -----> at least for some time. DUST to be very good in its core gameplay (shooting mehcanics and blance) will need some time, few years, because there so much more in it than in other shooters. But for now DUST has smth (will have smth) the other games dont have. Persistence and consequences, which in my opinion is way more important than anything else, taking as granted it has at least decent mechanics and balance, which IMO DUST at this point has.
As i said DUST+EVE is not an ordinary game it is serious business. Or u ll HTFU, smarten up and adapt, be a hardcore player (not a hardcore FPS player because there is so much more in this universe than shooting) or u can be a hardcore sissy whiner. It is time to choose, stay be smart and own planets and riches or COD, BF3, PS2 ----->
If u leave, remember, there will be always enough players to found its development even without you playing it. And with every new expansion they ll be hitting the post with mechanics and balance + all the persistence and consequences.
Example for new players
Most important thing in New Eden is isk. U need to have always an option for earning good amount of isk. So here is a tip. Eventually my goal is to be a top Logibro in New Eden. But i am thinking in longterms. Atm i skilled for a Assault suit and AR because one thing sure that setup will always be decent because it is most played and CCP wont play around it much. Ih u skill in ti u ll always have a good way to earn isk and to be accepted in corps. That setup will be always nedeed (smth similar with Battlecruisers in EVE, Drake fro example) I am already satisfied with the skills i put into that setup and i started to train for the career i really like, the Logibro. The difference btw DUST and EVE is that in DUST u get that instant gratification gameplay way much more accessible. Push a button and u are in an instant match.
Final thoughts Dont play DUST same as u do with other meaningless shooters. This is smth more serious, it is serious business and like that will always be a niche in the gaming world. But what a niche it will be, the possibilities are immense. Have fun but have in mind your goals always and every step should bring u closer to it. Plan in longterms!!! |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:31:00 -
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Zlocha wrote:I will speak about New Eden (EVE+DUST)
I see lots of whining lately. Guys this game is not like other ordinary shooters. It has lots of items and there will be lots more. Balance here is very important, and there will be Hammers pounding on your favorite items regularly. If u dont HTFU and learn to adapt u ll fail in this world.
Dust is not just an ordinary game. U dont play DUST or EVE, u live it and try to reach your goals and be best at something, whatever it will be. If u dont adapt u ll be doomed. If u want smooth mechanics and balanced wpns COD, BF3 -----> at least for some time. DUST to be very good in its core gameplay (shooting mehcanics and blance) will need some time, few years, because there so much more in it than in other shooters. But for now DUST has smth (will have smth) the other games dont have. Persistence and consequences, which in my opinion is way more important than anything else, taking as granted it has at least decent mechanics and balance, which IMO DUST at this point has.
As i said DUST+EVE is not an ordinary game it is serious business. Or u ll HTFU, smarten up and adapt, be a hardcore player (not a hardcore FPS player because there is so much more in this universe than shooting) or u can be a hardcore sissy whiner. It is time to choose, stay be smart and own planets and riches or COD, BF3, PS2 ----->
If u leave, remember, there will be always enough players to found its development even without you playing it. And with every new expansion they ll be hitting the post with mechanics and balance + all the persistence and consequences.
Example for new players
Most important thing in New Eden is isk. U need to have always an option for earning good amount of isk. So here is a tip. Eventually my goal is to be a top Logibro in New Eden. But i am thinking in longterms. Atm i skilled for a Assault suit and AR because one thing sure that setup will always be decent because it is most played and CCP wont play around it much. Ih u skill in ti u ll always have a good way to earn isk and to be accepted in corps. That setup will be always nedeed (smth similar with Battlecruisers in EVE, Drake fro example) I am already satisfied with the skills i put into that setup and i started to train for the career i really like, the Logibro. The difference btw DUST and EVE is that in DUST u get that instant gratification gameplay way much more accessible. Push a button and u are in an instant match.
Final thoughts Dont play DUST same as u do with other meaningless shooters. This is smth more serious, it is serious business and like that will always be a niche in the gaming world. But what a niche it will be, the possibilities are immense. Have fun but have in mind your goals always and every step should bring u closer to it. Plan in longterms!!!
http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust
Thanks, but no the persistance doesnt mean squat if the experience isnt a pleasant one. But good luck convincing people to come back to this game in console land, thats worked for so many other games right?
They finally fixed uncharted 3; too bad the base moved on, this pattern is the case with many games. Especially in todays internet age where the mantra is if its broke no worries we can patch it after release. |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
66
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:36:00 -
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Nice post. But spoken for the mmo crowd. There are quite a few fps here that don't care about role play. don't care about eve, or eden. They came for the competition. Or for every core fps the new grounds to make themselves gods. ...then move on. FPS aren't farmers. We don't sow. we consume. WE EAT AND RUN ONE PLANET DRY. THEN MOVE ON. We are not looking create anything. competiton feeds us. We've come to destroy.
edit: PAY ATTENTION TO THAT FPS MINDSET CCP. |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:38:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThanks, but no the persistance doesnt mean squat if the experience isnt a pleasant one. But good luck convincing people to come back to this game in console land, thats worked for so many other games right? They finally fixed uncharted 3; too bad the base moved on, this pattern is the case with many games. Especially in todays internet age where the mantra is if its broke no worries we can patch it after release.
This game is not like others. It will always stay a single game and evolve by time and hey it will be free. And repeating, there will always be enough players to support its development and new blood will flow in always. Remember PC players own a console too. Dont dismantle the possibility of it being on PC in future. Later whoever left the game will feel sorry, but hey CCP still thinks of you. U ll be getting the SP passively which will make it easier for a comeback.
Damn, such a good game. |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
360
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:44:00 -
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Keyser Soze VerbalKint wrote:Zlocha wrote:I will speak about New Eden (EVE+DUST)
I see lots of whining lately. Guys this game is not like other ordinary shooters. It has lots of items and there will be lots more. Balance here is very important, and there will be Hammers pounding on your favorite items regularly. If u dont HTFU and learn to adapt u ll fail in this world.
Dust is not just an ordinary game. U dont play DUST or EVE, u live it and try to reach your goals and be best at something, whatever it will be. If u dont adapt u ll be doomed. If u want smooth mechanics and balanced wpns COD, BF3 -----> at least for some time. DUST to be very good in its core gameplay (shooting mehcanics and blance) will need some time, few years, because there so much more in it than in other shooters. But for now DUST has smth (will have smth) the other games dont have. Persistence and consequences, which in my opinion is way more important than anything else, taking as granted it has at least decent mechanics and balance, which IMO DUST at this point has.
As i said DUST+EVE is not an ordinary game it is serious business. Or u ll HTFU, smarten up and adapt, be a hardcore player (not a hardcore FPS player because there is so much more in this universe than shooting) or u can be a hardcore sissy whiner. It is time to choose, stay be smart and own planets and riches or COD, BF3, PS2 ----->
If u leave, remember, there will be always enough players to found its development even without you playing it. And with every new expansion they ll be hitting the post with mechanics and balance + all the persistence and consequences.
Example for new players
Most important thing in New Eden is isk. U need to have always an option for earning good amount of isk. So here is a tip. Eventually my goal is to be a top Logibro in New Eden. But i am thinking in longterms. Atm i skilled for a Assault suit and AR because one thing sure that setup will always be decent because it is most played and CCP wont play around it much. Ih u skill in ti u ll always have a good way to earn isk and to be accepted in corps. That setup will be always nedeed (smth similar with Battlecruisers in EVE, Drake fro example) I am already satisfied with the skills i put into that setup and i started to train for the career i really like, the Logibro. The difference btw DUST and EVE is that in DUST u get that instant gratification gameplay way much more accessible. Push a button and u are in an instant match.
Final thoughts Dont play DUST same as u do with other meaningless shooters. This is smth more serious, it is serious business and like that will always be a niche in the gaming world. But what a niche it will be, the possibilities are immense. Have fun but have in mind your goals always and every step should bring u closer to it. Plan in longterms!!! http://eve-offline.net/?server=dustThanks, but no the persistance doesnt mean squat if the experience isnt a pleasant one. But good luck convincing people to come back to this game in console land, thats worked for so many other games right? They finally fixed uncharted 3; too bad the base moved on, this pattern is the case with many games. Especially in todays internet age where the mantra is if its broke no worries we can patch it after release. you keep posting this and i will keep giving you the same response being that you are a coward and wont to try to counter it
"its early people work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game so you posting this is pointless idiot" |
ZiwZih
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
120
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:47:00 -
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Mate, you told me you do not play this game, which means you just online created the character for forums and now you try to sell us 'this game is unlike any' mantra which stands for EVE right, but DUST is at the moment failing big time when it comes to FPS gameplay and having fun in it.
Controls are off, movement is terrible and everything is flattened to a point of being crap 'unlike any other'.
Please, don't doubt our will for DUST to succeed after so many time spent here. Fanoboiery at this moment isn't doing any good to the game, community and CCP. |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.05.08 15:52:00 -
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ZiwZih wrote:Mate, you told me you do not play this game, which means you just online created the character for forums and now you try to sell us 'this game is unlike any' mantra which stands for EVE right, but DUST is at the moment failing big time when it comes to FPS gameplay and having fun in it.
Controls are off, movement is terrible and everything is flattened to a point of being crap 'unlike any other'.
Please, don't doubt our will for DUST to succeed after so many time spent here. Fanboiery at this moment isn't doing any good to the game, community and CCP.
I am playing. Played enough chromosome and Uprising so i can compare it safely. I agree that mechanics are not that great as i stated in the post, but it is not so dramatical, it is just OK and the balance is way better than in chromosome. The exception is that HMG can get some more dmg and DS can get some boosts to their WP gameplay. |
Keyser Soze VerbalKint
IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback
228
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Posted - 2013.05.08 16:16:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:[ you keep posting this and i will keep giving you the same response being that you are a coward and wont to try to counter it
"its early people work and have school during the day we all cant no life the game so you posting this is pointless idiot"
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=769868#post769868
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=769892#post769892
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=769981#post769981 |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.05.08 17:19:00 -
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There isn't one way to play DUST514. That's the beauty of the game; CCP gives you the tools to make what you will of it. Someone wants to play it that way, awesome. Someone wants to play it like any other fps, that's awesome too. So, **** you & anyone else that tries to tell them the way they want to play is the wrong way. |
Zahle Undt
The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.05.08 18:02:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:There isn't one way to play DUST514. That's the beauty of the game; CCP gives you the tools to make what you will of it. Someone wants to play it that way, awesome. Someone wants to play it like any other fps, that's awesome too. So, **** you & anyone else that tries to tell them the way they want to play is the wrong way.
See that is what is beautiful about this gamer and it is that beauty that CCP is ruining with the Uprising build thus far. If you can't effectively play logi until you grind away 2 million SP, if you can't compete against a particular weapon o matter what (i.e. the AR) than CCP is taking away the tools one has to play the game their own way and be effective.
This is why the adapt or die crowd is so wrong on this one, because adapt usually means go into the best classes and use the best weapons to survive which will leave us a bland game full of medium frame suits of some kind all using ARs. That sort of adapting leads to a bland, boring, failure of a game. |
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Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
20
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Posted - 2013.05.08 19:30:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:There isn't one way to play DUST514. That's the beauty of the game; CCP gives you the tools to make what you will of it. Someone wants to play it that way, awesome. Someone wants to play it like any other fps, that's awesome too. So, **** you & anyone else that tries to tell them the way they want to play is the wrong way.
U obviously didnt read the post. None said to anyone how to play the game, but how to approach the world of New Eden if u want to survive. If u approach it on the right way u can play whatever the way u like. If not u prolly quit it like many did. Thats why EVE has 500k and Wow 10 mil. The tip i said is the tip which did good to me. People can accept it or not is they will. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:00:00 -
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Zlocha wrote: U obviously didnt read the post. None said to anyone how to play the game, but how to approach the world of New Eden if u want to survive. If u approach it on the right way u can play whatever the way u like. If not u prolly quit it like many did. Thats why EVE has 500k and Wow 10 mil. The tip i said is the tip which did good to me. People can accept it or not is they will.
You obviously didn't read your own post. My rebuttal on reddit |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:12:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Zlocha wrote: U obviously didnt read the post. None said to anyone how to play the game, but how to approach the world of New Eden if u want to survive. If u approach it on the right way u can play whatever the way u like. If not u prolly quit it like many did. Thats why EVE has 500k and Wow 10 mil. The tip i said is the tip which did good to me. People can accept it or not is they will.
You obviously didn't read your own post. My rebuttal on reddit
ahm and at what point i said to someone how to play? :D... All those quotes are the foundations of what makes New Eden. Those quotes is what is behind of every play style a player chose. If people understand them they ll be able to survive if not they ll quite and be gone. |
Thumb Green
THE STAR BORN Dark Taboo
75
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:16:00 -
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Whatever dude, if you don't want to read that's fine. I'm getting the feeling that you might be a fluffy imp so I'm not going to waste my time anymore. Good day. |
Zlocha
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
22
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:25:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Whatever dude, if you don't want to read that's fine. I'm getting the feeling that you might be a fluffy imp so I'm not going to waste my time anymore. Good day.
At any point i didnt say to someone how to use the tools that ccp provided or how to use any of the mechanics. Everything i said is the logic which stands behind the games that CCP does |
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