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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 13:44:00 -
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To me it is, at only 3% bonus per level I really don't see how investing heavily into this would make a good difference in combat. |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
204
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:00:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:To me it is, at only 3% bonus per level I really don't see how investing heavily into this would make a good difference in combat.
Need to find some way to make it take 7 years to fully develop your character :/ It was lackluster last build but TBH it should have a greater impact, especially with the SP required. |
Travi Zyg
G I A N T
EoN.
61
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:02:00 -
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im running SMG as a main and im also finding it hard to justify the investment for only 15% faster reload. (given you actually are going to get it to L.5) |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:05:00 -
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15 % for a x6 multiplier 
I could only see it worthy on Heavy weapons or maybe MD / Shotgun
They probably should have made it a x3 |
Blamejudg3s KEQ
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
13
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:07:00 -
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Swarm needs it for that last second fire |
JETSTORM1090
Against All Oddz
43
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:12:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:To me it is, at only 3% bonus per level I really don't see how investing heavily into this would make a good difference in combat.
Ya I sat there for a couple minutes deciding whether or not it would make a difference, I ended up not getting it because SP is really priceless in this build lol |
Kleanur Guy
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
204
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:21:00 -
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Blamejudg3s KEQ wrote:Swarm needs it for that last second fire
I don't think they NEED it. |
ZDub 303
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
21
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:26:00 -
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Feel like at that price it should be 8% per level, to equal the 40% from last build, while wrapping the 2x + 5x price of RR and RR prof.
3% is an insult imo. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
180
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:27:00 -
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At the end of the day if i can reload faster than you your dead. |
Travi Zyg
G I A N T
EoN.
61
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:28:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:At the end of the day if i can reload faster than you your dead.
not if you do it in less than 1 clip  |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2841
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:28:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:At the end of the day if i can reload faster than you your dead.
Unless you, ya know, stick to cover and with your squad  |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:31:00 -
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Guinevere Bravo wrote:At the end of the day if i can reload faster than you your dead.
Technically that is only if you are using the same weapon..... and you are a great shot..... and its a 1v1 encounter
So it all comes down to playstyle and if you really want to invest in it (which is good) but the price still seems pretty high for the reward. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
Orion Empire
109
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:31:00 -
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I invested in rapid reload prior to the reset to see how effective it is...it's worthless and not even noticeable and this was taking proficiency to 5 for the full 25%
teh sp requirement is fine, but the benefit is trash should be 5-8% per level. |
xxMemphis
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
9
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:31:00 -
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Way too high for what it is can be replaced with.....pay huge SP to reload faster or find cover for free and reload....odds are if your reloading in the open your dying alot while doing it anyway 20% faster will not help your bad tactics. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers
EoN.
217
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Posted - 2013.05.08 14:41:00 -
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Alldin Kan wrote:To me it is, at only 3% bonus per level I really don't see how investing heavily into this would make a good difference in combat.
previously you could drop 2.7m SP into reload (3% then 2% at prof) for a heavy this would take 8s reload down to 6s (HMG) if you had it fully maxed. I played with this at the end of the build to see the pros and cons.
reload lvl 4 made it worth it... that was 12% decrease, which almost shaved a second off a reload. I noticed a nice improvement at lvl 8 as well, but at this point I have already sunk about 1.6m SP into it, and tbh wasn't worth it.
NOW... you MAX OUT at 15%, AND its a 6x. so to make it worthwhile you are dropping 932k SP into it to speed up reload by 1 second.
maybe at some point but with the SP everyone has now (and Im sure I have more than most) its not worth it |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
Orion Empire
100
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Posted - 2013.05.08 20:51:00 -
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The 3 seconds it takes to reload the Assault Rifle, if reduced by 15%, works out to 450 miliseconds. Blinking is 300-400 miliseconds. Untill you actually start to think about blinking, you do it so often and so quickly you don't even notice. Once you add in lag, Rapid Reload for an Assault Rifle is unnoticeable. So it isn't that the skill is not worth investing in heavily, it is probably not worth it period.
I find it odd that the skill went from x2 to x6 considering the smallness of the benefit. It wasn't worth it when it was 621,840 SP. It is even more laughable now that it is 1.86 million. It is even more ridiculous when you realize that the Caldari Assault bonus is reloading faster which, as I believe I have pointed out nicely, is pretty much so miniscule that you CAN'T notice. |
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