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WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:29:00 -
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Can anyone confirm this? If so do you think it makes sense? imo the laser beam should have more range. The current AR is literally a small blaster with plasma technology bullets that can't travel at a very far range. The laser is a beam of light. Should LR stay below TAC AR's range? |
Gigatron Prime
New Eden's Most Wanted
Gentlemen's Agreement
7
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:31:00 -
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All the weapon stats are **** and ****** up right now. No doubt CCP is scrambling to fix this debaucle. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:32:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Can anyone confirm this? If so do you think it makes sense? imo the laser beam should have more range. The current AR is literally a small blaster with plasma technology bullets that can't travel at a very far range. The laser is a beam of light. Should LR stay below TAC AR's range?
I've had a 123m kill with the GLU-5 today. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:35:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Can anyone confirm this? If so do you think it makes sense? imo the laser beam should have more range. The current AR is literally a small blaster with plasma technology bullets that can't travel at a very far range. The laser is a beam of light. Should LR stay below TAC AR's range? I've had a 123m kill with the GLU-5 today.
Ok can anyone please tell me what's the current LR range?
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Protocake JR
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:36:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Deadeyes Anterie wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Can anyone confirm this? If so do you think it makes sense? imo the laser beam should have more range. The current AR is literally a small blaster with plasma technology bullets that can't travel at a very far range. The laser is a beam of light. Should LR stay below TAC AR's range? I've had a 123m kill with the GLU-5 today. Ok can anyone please tell me what's the current LR range?
Around 80m |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
79
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:36:00 -
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Tac ar's range caps out at about 75m. I don't know about lasers. Oh and OB's count as longest kills, so I doubt you got it with a tac ar. |
Orin the Freak
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
549
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:36:00 -
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Deadeyes Anterie wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Can anyone confirm this? If so do you think it makes sense? imo the laser beam should have more range. The current AR is literally a small blaster with plasma technology bullets that can't travel at a very far range. The laser is a beam of light. Should LR stay below TAC AR's range? I've had a 123m kill with the GLU-5 today.
you're sure that wasn't an orbital? lol. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:39:00 -
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Ok so they're about the same. |
Deadeyes Anterie
Ill Omens
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:39:00 -
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Haha it could have been an OB then. Had no idea that counted for longest kill. I'll show myself out now. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
343
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:48:00 -
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TAR has more range the LR |
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:48:00 -
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There is a range thread where you guys can get your answers you know.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40886&find=unread
It's not fully updated yet though. |
WyrmHero1945
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
227
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:50:00 -
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Just saw it, no uprising LR info though. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
533
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:54:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Just saw it, no uprising LR info though.
As far as I can see Musta did update two of the lasers.
He also noted this in a post on the last page.
All weapons not marked with NCU should be fully updated. |
Icedslayer
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
64
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:58:00 -
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Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything" |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
544
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:29:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything"
Wait until endgame starts being serious and the tryhards don't let people participate in FW/PC/CB because they don't have an AR. Seen it happen in plenty of games. |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:01:00 -
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Just give us a tactical or a assault Laser-Variation, Give the Viziam a core damage of at least 17 and this works.
I mean seriously, the TAR has more range than a Laser and the Tac duvolle has a base dmg of 73? CCP You are killing me.
Or the better way to go, because I think the main Problem right now is the TAR, and everything else seems to be just as ****** as everything else, just take away the TAC.
Currently we have this variants on the Assault Rifle:
Assault (lol)
Breach
Burst
Tactical
4 different Variations while most of the other weapons have how much? One?
This is not about my personal needs, personally I like the laser the way it was, I can life with it the way it is right now, but not if we have a weapon which is way more OP then the Laser was in Chromosome.
I really hope CCP takes a very close look on the balance before PC starts.... |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:16:00 -
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nice, something new people can whine about. all those QQ about heavies, tanks, dropships and everything else lately was getting old.
in short: NERF THE TAR! (in before IMPS claiming TAR is fine) |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:28:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:nice, something new people can whine about. all those QQ about heavies, tanks, dropships and everything else lately was getting old.
in short: NERF THE TAR! (in before IMPS claiming TAR is fine)
actually it's not about whining, it's about game balance.
I don't see a logical reason why you should nerv the Proto laser from 20 to 15 base damage, just too push up the dmg on a TAR to 73, I mean there is really no reason in this.
as I mentioned above, I don't want the Laser OP, or anything else OP, all I want is a fair balance. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2800
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:34:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Ok can anyone please tell me what's the current LR range? Around 80m
Spec Ops Cipher wrote:Tac ar's range caps out at about 75m.
Sounds to me like they aren't out-ranging Lasers.
Might be nice to have people legitimately testing this though. Get a Laser Rifle and a Tac AR in-game on the same team, and back up while firing. See who stops hitting the target first. |
Spec Ops Cipher
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
80
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:46:00 -
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Tar vs laser fights at 80m range can go either way. Tar does about 60% dam and laser does 120%(?). I saw the laser stop about 3m ahead of me and kept backing off so I didn't get melted. Was a unique fight, keep backing off and plinking him to death while avoiding the beam of death |
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
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Posted - 2013.05.08 10:48:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Might be nice to have people legitimately testing this though. Get a Laser Rifle and a Tac AR in-game on the same team, and back up while firing. See who stops hitting the target first.
Or you could check the thread I already linked in this thread.
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
147
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:02:00 -
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proto tar max range is 100m
LR max range is about 80m
you can correct me if I am wrong (not at home to check it) |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
Orion Empire
155
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:10:00 -
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Icedslayer wrote:Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything"
Ahhh so now is AR 514 ? I thought it was call HMG 514 .....
Seriously ... why all the Heavies are so LOUD... stop crying, the AR have been nerfed too, and you hardly see any AR users constantly complaining, and crying like little baby's.  |
Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
41
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:13:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Icedslayer wrote:Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything" Ahhh so now is AR 514 ? I thought it was call HMG 514 ..... Seriously ... why all the Heavies are so LOUD... stop crying, the AR have been nerfed too, and you hardly see any AR users constantly complaining, and crying like little baby's.
Exactly, every weapon was nerfed, now it is just on us to find the imbalances to report them, that is what I try here. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
348
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:16:00 -
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the only thing that the TAR needs is a nerf to the RoF, it really is higher then full auto and have over double the damage. modded controller user are running crazy with this. with that it'll stop the modded controller from being OP while barely effecting anyone else. just without skills or damage mods they have over 900 dps possible. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
1029
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:18:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Icedslayer wrote:Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything" Ahhh so now is AR 514 ? I thought it was call HMG 514 ..... Seriously ... why all the Heavies are so LOUD... stop crying, the AR have been nerfed too, and you hardly see any AR users constantly complaining, and crying like little baby's.
You're an idiot mate, the Assault Rifle hasn't received a nerf. If you're on about the Sharpshooter removal, that was not an "Assault Rifle Nerf", it was a range nerf for all weapons, so the AR is still one of the best weapons to use in the game, the other weapons did receive nerfs, not just the loss of sharpshooter but damage reductions and range reductions. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
533
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:21:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:You're an idiot mate, the Assault Rifle hasn't received a nerf. If you're on about the Sharpshooter removal, that was not an "Assault Rifle Nerf", it was a range nerf for all weapons, so the AR is still one of the best weapons to use in the game, the other weapons did receive nerfs, not just the loss of sharpshooter but damage reductions and range reductions.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=40886&find=unread
The AR did get some range changes, so saying there weren't any changes is wrong. |
Panther Alpha
WarRavens
Orion Empire
155
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Posted - 2013.05.08 11:27:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Icedslayer wrote:Didn't you know they dropped the Dust 514 tittle, instead its AR514.
There marketing slogen is now "Who needs weapon diversity when the AR does everything" Ahhh so now is AR 514 ? I thought it was call HMG 514 ..... Seriously ... why all the Heavies are so LOUD... stop crying, the AR have been nerfed too, and you hardly see any AR users constantly complaining, and crying like little baby's. You're an idiot mate, the Assault Rifle hasn't received a nerf. If you're on about the Sharpshooter removal, that was not an "Assault Rifle Nerf", it was a range nerf for all weapons, so the AR is still one of the best weapons to use in the game, the other weapons did receive nerfs, not just the loss of sharpshooter but damage reductions and range reductions.
So.. i assuming that you try using the AR, and you getting LOTS of kills with it... right ? You calling me an idiot and all that...
- Range and recoil is terrible now, Specially with the GEK-38...is so bad, that i don't use it any more.
- Tactical does good damage, but it kicks like a Donkey... it takes some very good aiming to use that one.
Before you call people an idiot, do some research. |
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