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Gigatron Prime
New Eden's Most Wanted
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:29:00 -
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Do you think CCP listens too much to the community? We cry AR is OP, it gets mega nerffed. We cry HMG and heavies are OP. They get nerffed to hell. Scouts amid the chaos have been left untouched and now dominate. The core concepts and the weapons. The current state of the build is directly stemmed from what some of the vocal minority/majority called for. So, is CCP too pleasing? I think they need to say once in a while "NO, **** you, I know what Im doing". |
Sir Petersen
Valhalla Nord
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:30:00 -
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They listen. |
Hunter Junko
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:30:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Do you think CCP listens too much to the community? We cry AR is OP, it gets mega nerffed. We cry HMG and heavies are OP. They get nerffed to hell. Scouts amid the chaos have been left untouched and now dominate. The core concepts and the weapons. The current state of the build is directly stemmed from what some of the vocal minority/majority called for. So, is CCP too pleasing? I think they need to say once in a while "NO, **** you, I know what Im doing".
you get all my likes today |
Gigatron Prime
New Eden's Most Wanted
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:31:00 -
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I think thats the problem. They listen to the wrong people and the wrong mentality. |
Jotun Hiem
The Tritan Industries
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:38:00 -
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When did the AR get nerfed and when did scouts start dominating? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:40:00 -
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The problem isn't that the devs listen too much.
The problem is that they nerf based on the volume of complaints instead of the validity of the complaint.
Look at the complaints, look at the numbers, and preferably UNDER-nerf in the first instance, then adjust towards balance, rather than over-nerfing so hard the weapon goes from slightly OP to broken underpowered. |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
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Posted - 2013.05.08 07:43:00 -
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The issue is not "CCP", the issue is "CCP Shanghai".
CCP Reykjavik is rather good about listening to the community, knowing who to listen to, who to ignore, and has long-time players with extensive knowledge as devs. |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
545
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:40:00 -
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If CCP listened to the majority of us, Dust 514 would be a CoD clone with a spreadsheet. Stuff like SP and fittings would just be fluff because no matter how much armor/shields you had, 4 bullets from an AR would kill you. The mass driver would have a single round chamber, it wouldn't deal splash damage and it would take 5 minutes to reload. Heavies would move 1m/s, the HMG would have a range of -2m and it would take an hour to reload. Grenades would have homing to kill scouts, but their speed would be nerfed down to 4/ms and the shotgun would only deal 1 damage a pellet. ARs would be able to blow up tanks and LAVs and there would be no dropships.
So yeah, I'd rather CCP not listen to all our incessant blathering and focus on making the game the way they want it made.
EDIT: AR didn't get nerfed, sharpshooter forced every weapon back to it's intended range and everything except the AR got nerfed. Welcome to AR 514. |
Rainn Ender
L.O.T.I.S.
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:43:00 -
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Gigatron Prime wrote:Do you think CCP listens too much to the community? We cry AR is OP, it gets mega nerfed. We cry HMG and heavies are OP. They get nerfed to hell. Scouts amid the chaos have been left untouched and now have learned to play with the tools they are given instead of crying
fixed that for you, don't for one second try and say that scouts are somehow on par with medium frames because they aren't. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.08 08:46:00 -
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I'm torn on this one. I generally say developers shouldn't listen to the community TOO much, since a player community is a poor game designer - developers know better what makes a balanced game, than a vocal majority.
But CCP has never done an FPS. The prioritization of features and bug stomping during beta was all out of whack, and while Uprising fixed most of the FPS mechanics, there's still work to be done to meet the AAA FPS standards CCP has set for Dust. |
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Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
545
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Posted - 2013.05.08 09:06:00 -
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How to make Dust 514 the best game ever in 3 easy steps.
Step 1: Combine Genres so that each one reinforces the other.
Step 2: Make sure that a cool weapon is fun for the person being used on as it is for the person using it through healthy counter play options.
Step 3: Use that healthy counter play to spark the meta game centered around a cyclic perfect imbalance. |
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