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Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:16:00 -
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I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
157
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:18:00 -
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I didn't see anything in the patch notes saying that they are going to break KBM, terrain and make it impossible for logis to pick you up. |
S0LlD SNAKE
PLAYSTATION4
7
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:19:00 -
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Adapt or Die |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
2273
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:21:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do. We're not going to stop bitching. CCP claims to listen and we're putting it to the test. We're free to do so, as well, just like you're free to ignore threads. |
Kira Lannister
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
851
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:22:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do.
Oh everyone will stop playing at this rate. Enjoy the empty servers.
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Rinas Rylos
Hostile Acquisition Inc
9
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:23:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do. We're not going to stop bitching. CCP claims to listen and we're putting it to the test. We're free to do so, as well, just like you're free to ignore threads. Quite. Maybe if they hadn't borked the system so much, we wouldn't be whining. I don't even roll heavy suits, but I'm quite pissed for my friend that does, to say nothing of the numerous other problems Uprising introduced. |
Galthur
CrimeWave Syndicate
38
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:23:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:I didn't see anything in the patch notes saying that they are going to break KBM, terrain and make it impossible for logis to pick you up. It is possible for logi's to pick you up, just glitchy KBM is a hotfixable problem Same with terrain Plus why would they list bugs in patch notes for a content build |
Rasatsu
Much Crying Old Experts
678
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:38:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO? Yes we did, that's why all the HAV drivers got rather pissed the week before the patch.
Then CCP followed through with the changes, and just to be helpful they found a handful of other ways to make tanks a complete fuckup. So expect more bad threads from the HAV crowd cause that seems to be the only way to influence CCP. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
484
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Posted - 2013.05.07 19:10:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Al Lopestes wrote:It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO? Yes we did, that's why all the HAV drivers got rather pissed the week before the patch. Then CCP followed through with the changes, and just to be helpful they found a handful of other ways to make tanks a complete fuckup. So expect more bad threads from the HAV crowd cause that seems to be the only way to influence CCP.
YEP! they screwedup the assault dropships,goofedup medics, lasers with an iron sight? WTF?, nerfed HMGs, ignored heavies, killed KBM, nerfed scouts and just in case there was anything left to goofup they also borked HAVS.
Not playing Dust 514 today. |
Smoky The Bear
Intergalactic Cannibus Cartel
27
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Posted - 2013.05.07 20:35:00 -
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Yes we did, that's why all the HAV drivers got rather pissed the week before the patch.
Then CCP followed through with the changes, and just to be helpful they found a handful of other ways to make tanks a complete fuckup. So expect more bad threads from the HAV crowd cause that seems to be the only way to influence CCP.[/quote]
YEP! they screwedup the assault dropships,goofedup medics, lasers with an iron sight? WTF?, nerfed HMGs, ignored heavies, killed KBM, nerfed scouts and just in case there was anything left to goofup they also borked HAVS.
Not playing Dust 514 today.[/quote]
or tomorrow.. |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1400
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Posted - 2013.05.07 20:36:00 -
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Deranged Disaster wrote:I didn't see anything in the patch notes saying that they are going to break KBM, terrain and make it impossible for logis to pick you up. BUGS IN A PATCH?! HOW DARE THEY!!!
Grow up. It'll be fixed. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2755
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:12:00 -
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I'm just going back through the patch notes to check, and they didn't mention the addition of turn acceleration. They mentioned retuned sensitivity, and that's great to have, along with actually-variable sensitivty. But they didn't mention acceleration, and they added it, and it's a bad thing when it isn't optional. They also didn't mention OR IMPLEMENT what many people asked for - proper variation in sensitivity based on the angle you tilt the stick. The sensitivity options for sixaxis controls SHOULD be as follows:
X sensitivity: 0 - 100 Y sensitivity: 0 - 100 X acceleration: 0 - 100 Y acceleration: 0 - 100 X scaling: 0 - 100 Y scaling: 0 - 100 Aim Assist: On/Off
Sensitivity is the only thing we get to control right now. It basically sets your max turn rate.
Acceleration means that as you keep turning, your turn rate increases. You start off slower, and the longer you keep turning, the faster you get. Some players are comfortable with this, others find it painfully awkward. It's particularly bad for CQC players who need a consistent balance between precision control and turn speed. At 100, this should be how DUST handles right now.
Scaling is how much variation you get based on how far you tilt the right stick. With acceleration in place, it's hard to test this, and with a reduced deadzone it may have changed from the previous build. I'm inclined to guess that we're probably still running with scaling of onl about 10% variation from a hard turn to barely moving the stick, which I'd list on these controls as being a value of 10.
At the moment, Aim Assist isn't an option. There'a an option for it, but if you're ever going to be less than 5m from an enemy for any reason, you WILL need it turned on. Even at sensitivity 0, turn speed breaks when there's an enemy close and you have Aim Assist turned off. It literally throws your aim almost 90 degrees with the slightest touch. Calling the option "unplayable" isn't an exaggeration, it's a simple fact. If you're not fighting in close quarters, you probably won't notice much of a difference between Aim Assist being on or off. It's so subtle as to be barely there. This says Aim Assist isn't working as intended, and that there's something weird happening to sensitivity or acceleration when it's turned off. If they're going to have Aim Assist, they need to not only make sure it works, but also that the controls work when it's turned off.
Fixing this properly is unlikely to be possible in a hotfix, since it requires a significant rework of how everything handles. The same is probably true for the mouse control, because one of the core issues is that acceleration has been applied to mouse aiming as well. CCP have, since I first showed up in the beta, had a running inability to keep the separate control schemes actually separate. There's no valid reason why, but all the control options seem to interact on each other's settings in various ways, and this has happened since I first picked it up. If they haven't made each control option function independently, that's a HUGE problem and will probably take a major rebuild of the entire game to resolve, and rebuilding everything is likely to be the only way to actually make the game work competently. |
AntanTheBeast
Foxhound Corporation
19
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:27:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do. We're not going to stop bitching. CCP claims to listen and we're putting it to the test. We're free to do so, as well, just like you're free to ignore threads.
You don't have to cry and moan like babies you could give constructive criticism and explain to them without raging what you think this game needs to improve on.
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KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:30:00 -
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I actually like Dust Uprising a lot. I feel it more balanced. and i use scouts XD |
golddust freeman
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:34:00 -
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I just hopped on my alt and put all sp into AR's and dropsuits.....uprising is fun. On my main I put all my sp into HAV / LAV and MD's....not so fun |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
198
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:43:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do.
I really don't care about your opinion, i do care about mine and since its a total game breaker (KB/M) i cant even play properly. if and when i kill someone its more luck then skill atm.
For people as yourself that have been playing on pure luck, i guess nothing changed, for those that played on skill it ruined the game for us.
Killing someone in cqc is like 2 Apes slinging poo at each other, eventually one of the two will get lucky and get a hit in. |
Deranged Disaster
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
163
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Posted - 2013.05.07 21:57:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:BUGS IN A PATCH?! HOW DARE THEY!!!
Grow up. It'll be fixed. First off, think about what you just did to yourself with this reply. Second, it's not if they will be fixed or not, it's how soon they will be fixed and what kind of fix they will get. |
Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:30:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Al Lopestes wrote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
after the UPRISING patch i just see this. look back at the General Disccusions Page and go down. and see all those complains. JUST LOOK IT. (during new build launch day)
It just a a Big Change. is it harmless for a change. now with that you all complain. it like you haven't even read the Patch Note at all. did you actually read the patch note before UPRISING Release? YES OR NO?
I see SO MUCH COMPLAINS OVER WEAPONS, KB/MS, GAMEPLAY, BLIND HATE THREAD, FANBOYING THREADS. (it just like INTERNET HATE CHANGES) just stop it. I'm tired. I have no problem with anything with Uprising. "if you don't like it then don't play it" or "Play it, after 5 second of 1 first match in latest build you go to forums and whine about you play for 5 seconds" To be honest. Changes like that happens every BETA/Full Game. i mean you should take a look at past builds remember the whole character reset? Pretty much normal for me. happens on other BETAs. Don't worry, everything will go back to normal...right?
But you know i really want changes to DUST. This forums. Missing a lot of features. (you should take a look at other forums) such as Putting our Signature, Adding Photos and Youtube Videos without using external link.
oh before anything else. please post a reply but don't took this thread waaaaaay to seriosly*
*Sorry for a lot of lack of spelling. also mentioning Uprising way too much. time to prepare my popcorn and see whats this thread do. We're not going to stop bitching. CCP claims to listen and we're putting it to the test. We're free to do so, as well, just like you're free to ignore threads.
Okay, Keep Bitching whatever you want. I right here. Watching Doctor Who and downloading Sleeping Dogs and FUSE Demo |
Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:32:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:I actually like Dust Uprising a lot. I feel it more balanced. and i use scouts XD
Somewhat all of my Starters Class turns into Scouts. might be because i Favorited the suit before this patch
edit: the only thing that i like the most about Uprising. The Maps/Environments,Visual effects and login flow background. feels ready for commercial release |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
343
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:34:00 -
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This community is **** |
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Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:37:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:This community is ****
The Whole Forums is full of whiners |
Nstomper
The Sangheli
343
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:41:00 -
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Al Lopestes wrote:Nstomper wrote:This community is **** The Whole Forums is full of whiners Exactly |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. RISE of LEGION
227
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:50:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I'm just going back through the patch notes to check, and they didn't mention the addition of turn acceleration. They mentioned retuned sensitivity, and that's great to have, along with actually-variable sensitivty. But they didn't mention acceleration, and they added it, and it's a bad thing when it isn't optional. They also didn't mention OR IMPLEMENT what many people asked for - proper variation in sensitivity based on the angle you tilt the stick. The sensitivity options for sixaxis controls SHOULD be as follows:
X sensitivity: 0 - 100 Y sensitivity: 0 - 100 X acceleration: 0 - 100 Y acceleration: 0 - 100 X scaling: 0 - 100 Y scaling: 0 - 100 Aim Assist: On/Off
Sensitivity is the only thing we get to control right now. It basically sets your max turn rate.
Acceleration means that as you keep turning, your turn rate increases. You start off slower, and the longer you keep turning, the faster you get. Some players are comfortable with this, others find it painfully awkward. It's particularly bad for CQC players who need a consistent balance between precision control and turn speed. At 100, this should be how DUST handles right now.
Scaling is how much variation you get based on how far you tilt the right stick. With acceleration in place, it's hard to test this, and with a reduced deadzone it may have changed from the previous build. I'm inclined to guess that we're probably still running with scaling of onl about 10% variation from a hard turn to barely moving the stick, which I'd list on these controls as being a value of 10.
At the moment, Aim Assist isn't an option. There'a an option for it, but if you're ever going to be less than 5m from an enemy for any reason, you WILL need it turned on. Even at sensitivity 0, turn speed breaks when there's an enemy close and you have Aim Assist turned off. It literally throws your aim almost 90 degrees with the slightest touch. Calling the option "unplayable" isn't an exaggeration, it's a simple fact. If you're not fighting in close quarters, you probably won't notice much of a difference between Aim Assist being on or off. It's so subtle as to be barely there. This says Aim Assist isn't working as intended, and that there's something weird happening to sensitivity or acceleration when it's turned off. If they're going to have Aim Assist, they need to not only make sure it works, but also that the controls work when it's turned off.
Fixing this properly is unlikely to be possible in a hotfix, since it requires a significant rework of how everything handles. The same is probably true for the mouse control, because one of the core issues is that acceleration has been applied to mouse aiming as well. CCP have, since I first showed up in the beta, had a running inability to keep the separate control schemes actually separate. There's no valid reason why, but all the control options seem to interact on each other's settings in various ways, and this has happened since I first picked it up. If they haven't made each control option function independently, that's a HUGE problem and will probably take a major rebuild of the entire game to resolve, and rebuilding everything is likely to be the only way to actually make the game work competently.
While I'm one who does not mind the acceleration it helps me track moving targets at distance and have had very little problems with the new scheme. this deserves it's own thread. and a couple of likes. |
Al Lopestes
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2013.05.07 23:57:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:I'm just going back through the patch notes to check, and they didn't mention the addition of turn acceleration. They mentioned retuned sensitivity, and that's great to have, along with actually-variable sensitivty. But they didn't mention acceleration, and they added it, and it's a bad thing when it isn't optional. They also didn't mention OR IMPLEMENT what many people asked for - proper variation in sensitivity based on the angle you tilt the stick. The sensitivity options for sixaxis controls SHOULD be as follows:
X sensitivity: 0 - 100 Y sensitivity: 0 - 100 X acceleration: 0 - 100 Y acceleration: 0 - 100 X scaling: 0 - 100 Y scaling: 0 - 100 Aim Assist: On/Off
Sensitivity is the only thing we get to control right now. It basically sets your max turn rate.
I just set my sensitivity to 70 or 80 i think. looks equal to last build. (keyboard and mouse user, but players still kick my butt for being way too advance) |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Gentlemen's Agreement
27
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Posted - 2013.05.08 00:04:00 -
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Quote:I am very tired with this forums itself.
Maybe just maybe the complaints that bother you so much have merit.
Note: CCP has admitted that mouse and keyboard controls are bugged.
Note2: We had a whole range of range combat...from close hand to hand combat to snipers...now that game play has a huge donut hole cut into it. Seriously a whole style of game play has been removed shutting out people who played in that style. Do you really think removing those people from enjoying that game is a good idea? Do you think it will not hurt player numbers? |
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