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Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 469	Posted - 2013.05.07 04:42:00 - [1] - Quote It seems like nearly all the weapons and vehicles got tuned to make them less deadly and less efficient. At the same time the tactical assault rifles get a massive damage boost. With how short the new range is on almost all the guns it seems like he tactical might become as prolific as it was pre-chromium. I've always loved the gun, but had to put it away like every other sane merc for an automatic a few months back when they put so much damn recoil on it. The recoil is still nasty, but now with 50% more damage and the ability to safely fire in at people at 50-120m and be untouchable to automatics It's time to break it out again. The tactical gunfights were always much much more fun and I expect them to return as the top players gravitate to the range. I already saw DJINN soul running a Tactical, maybe I will get to gunfight Zitro again! Haha, about time he gets out of his tank to remind people he is also good with an AR.
The Black Art Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 42	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:16:00 - [2] - Quote I've been using the TAR. Gonna have to get used the recoil, but it's the best gun currently.
MacGoogles iS-me-name ThatsHott 8	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:40:00 - [3] - Quote The Black Art wrote: I've been using the TAR. Gonna have to get used the recoil, but it's the best gun currently. second this, i made the switch from sniper to AR after respec, currently the TAR is my most used out of the AR weapons. -But you never know the scrambler rifle(s) may be better than AR(s)
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 470	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:42:00 - [4] - Quote MacGoogles iS-me-name wrote: The Black Art wrote: I've been using the TAR. Gonna have to get used the recoil, but it's the best gun currently. second this, i made the switch from sniper to AR after respec, currently the TAR is my most used out of the AR weapons. -But you never know the scrambler rifle(s) may be better than AR(s) To me it's more about the range and less about the damage. Unless the new guns are a bit longer than the current range of all the other guns I don't have much hope for them.
Free Beers Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1448	Posted - 2013.05.07 05:48:00 - [5] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: MacGoogles iS-me-name wrote: The Black Art wrote: I've been using the TAR. Gonna have to get used the recoil, but it's the best gun currently. second this, i made the switch from sniper to AR after respec, currently the TAR is my most used out of the AR weapons. -But you never know the scrambler rifle(s) may be better than AR(s) To me it's more about the range and less about the damage. Unless the new guns are a bit longer than the current range of all the other guns I don't have much hope for them. Range is 70 meters and if you get caught by it when you cant shoot back you are dead. If the TAR user can stand still and try and head shot you when you can't shoot back its a huge advantage. That said, I have killed plenty of TAR users today when they were in the range of my weapon. When they had distance and I couldn't get cover they killed me. Thats how it is. Don't blame the gun I've tried it and It's a high skill weapon to be accurate and handle the recoil on it. Posts like yours is the reason why baby jesus hate kittens
MacGoogles iS-me-name ThatsHott 10	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:25:00 - [6] - Quote Free Beers wrote: Deadeyes Anterie wrote: [quote=MacGoogles iS-me-name][quote=The Black Art]I've been using the TAR. Gonna have to get used the recoil, but it's the best gun currently. When they had distance and I couldn't get cover they killed me. Thats how it is. Don't blame the gun I've tried it and It's a high skill weapon to be accurate and handle the recoil on it. Posts like yours is the reason why baby jesus hate kittens Yeah they are pretty good from distance, Hell even up close i like em, do a little Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive and Dodge, as you are unloading a clip on the enemy and there ya go ;)
ZDub 303 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 25	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:32:00 - [7] - Quote TAR is the only usable gun now with the nerfed range. I think you'll be seeing about 90% of AR users using the TAR in the coming weeks until CCP fixes the ranges.
LT Dans Legs The Tritan Industries RISE of LEGION 89	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:40:00 - [8] - Quote Ya, and im already noticing a lot of modded controlers with it again. You can always tell cuz it sounds like an automatic. People think they are awesome cuz they use turbo. Then they will deny it. If you press R1 rapidly with it it will stumble over the rhythm. When it doesnt stumble you know its wrong. Im not gonna whine tho. If people have to cheat to kill then so be it. But they wont get any respect from me.
UK-Shots Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 35	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:42:00 - [9] - Quote depends ...1 of the proto suits has 5 high slots. imagine sticking 5 dmg mods on that.. just need 5 mill sp
Orin the Freak Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 550	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:43:00 - [10] - Quote It seems CCP should up the ranges on all guns to at least 300m, raise damage by 50%, then everyone will be happy. Oh, also, give tanks 15-20k EHP with 20k damage blasters. Just overpower everything. CCP aparently when the wrong direction. They nerfed everything and want to work their way up. noooope. Everyone wants OP range and OP guns. Realistically, nerf the tac AR, buff the HMG, then add about 20m to each guns optimal. Viola? I just don't want anything close to the ridiculous ranges we had in chromosome. I don't think I should be able to stand on the table top in Line Harvest, and kill someone playing hide and seek on top of C or D. It ruins the actual fun of the engagement. Who wants to run around and get in CQC when you can just sit on your pretty perch and snipe down on people with your OP viziam or AR? But whatever, I give up. I'll just play the game the way I wanna play it, and let all you guys jack it up for me by QQing here on the forums. Then when they buff the crap out of everything, you'll QQ more about "now this and this are OP/UP!" sigh

Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 121	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:49:00 - [11] - Quote Agreed. Even up close, the TAR seems to have the upper hand. You see a lot less dance fights between TAR users in CQ compared to auto AR. And obviously, at range, its a beast. At least its a teir 4 gun now. Scramblers may offset the dominance a bit depending on how they play.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2073	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:51:00 - [12] - Quote Standard AR's, and laser, and tbh all "light assault" type of weapons need the range the TAR has. It isn't that the sheer damage alone is over powered, it also out ranges every gun I have come across. Except snipers. The only bad points are low clip size, and semi-auto fire mode. I will switch to KB/M if the TAR remains so dominant, removing the inaccuracy caused by using right stick & bashing R1 13 times a second.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 121	Posted - 2013.05.08 17:59:00 - [13] - Quote If you take away the range advantage of the TAR, you take away a big part of what makes it unique. I think it could use a damage reduction, but keep the range. Its fun to have a gun that actually PLAYs different than the other ARs. I find myself playing it a bit like the lazer of old, mixed with the AR of old. Plus, im not sure pub stomping is the best way to judge these guns. yeah the TAR feels OP when im shooting a bunch of random blues, but whenever I go up against a solid squad from a elite corp, duvaulles still seem to kill me fine. Players are still learning the ranges of these guns, and good players are already starting to use cover to get all up in the grill of a TAR and its been 2 days.
Chinduko KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 37	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:13:00 - [14] - Quote Has the TAR taken the place of sniper rifles? I have not noticed nearly as many snipers in the new build.
Bones McGavins TacoCat Industries 123	Posted - 2013.05.08 18:20:00 - [15] - Quote Yeah I dont get the sniper thing. With reduced player speed and massively reduced range, youd think snipers would be having a field day. I usually do pretty solid as an agressive, mid range sniper, so I am pretty stoked to try that out in Uprising since it seems like all the nerfs will make it a lot easier to do so. I hear the mountains and redline sniper spots are a lot less abundent, so maybe its just the cowardly snipers who sat in the mountains that are missing? I did get killed by a Thale yesterday, so someone, somewhere is sniping. Good for that guy.


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