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Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.05.06 21:07:00 -
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So I got the basic Active Scanner, and ran around scanning for the duration of an entire Skirmish map. It's in an equipment slot, so you equip it like a repair gun. You point it on a direction, and it sends a slow pulse in an arc in front of you. There's a cooldown, dependent upon the item and skill level as is the angle of the arc.
After each scan I got some obtuse notes on screen which were of no help in determining WTH is going on. I don't think I scanned and detected one enemy.
How are they used? Is there a notification on screen when I detect someone? Am I doing something wrong? Are Active Scanners related to scan precision of my suit (I run in a scout suit). Aren't you supposed to get WP from using them? |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
456
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Posted - 2013.05.07 18:42:00 -
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The main problem is that it doesn't give WP, which I thought was the plan. There should be more incentives for WP-oriented gameplay, and to encourage using various tactics.
And the main question I have is whether your suit's scan profile affects scanners. If that's the case, Scouts are by far the best scanners - otherwise logis with their multiple equipment slots.
Reign Omega wrote:...I assume the alert you receive after a scan is in anticipation of jamming modules or perhaps interference from Flux or EMP distortion.
Could be. I did receive one message which said that the scan precision wasn't 100% - not sure why. I wan't in a building, but the target area was uphill. Perhaps there is a vertical as well as horizontal arc. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
496
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Posted - 2013.05.12 09:57:00 -
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Delirium Inferno wrote:This tool is awesome as a scout but then I realized it revealed your location to the enemy. Really? Well guess it's not really meant for scouts anymore.
Yes, this is news to me. I wonder if it happens every time, or if the scanner's suit scan profile affects it - ie. scanning scout would be harder to detect by the enemy than a scanning logi. CCP needs to come out with more information on them.
Once I received the warning that I have been scanned when someone tried to scan me in my scout suit. Unfortunately it was a very crowded CQC situation so I couldn't tell if I detected the scanner on my minimap.
Repe Susi wrote:Is there really some kind of error margin as it implies with the messages flashed and what does that mean?
My understanding from testing and other posts here is that it is just an RP-interpretation of the scan profile mechanic. If you fail a scan - enemy suit's scan profile is less than your scanner's -, you get a report on your screen saying there was margin of error - and the scanned scout would get a warning along the lines "you were tried to be scanned."
In other words, if the scanner reports "no margin of error," you have detected all possible enemies in the scan area, or if you didn't detect anyone, there's no one there. Such confidence makes scanners a pretty potent tool. If there is "some margin of error," you have not detected every enemy, and there must be one or more enemies you did not detect.
Note above is educated speculation, not verified with testing.
Delirium Inferno wrote:What would you think if they added a different scanner that you placed down like a nanohive or uplink that simply monitored the area for you? Since I tend to stay a little more defensive in my Gallente armor suits due to being a bit slower, this is something I would much rather have.
I love this idea, please post on the suggestions forum! |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
509
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Posted - 2013.05.13 19:11:00 -
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After testing yesterday, I am quite confident in saying that using an Active Scanner will not reveal your position. There is also no language in the description implying that you will be revealed when using the scanner.
I wonder if this holds true on failed scans - ie. when you get a message of a margin of error being present. |
Arramakaian Eka
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
515
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Posted - 2013.05.14 19:59:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:1. The enemy being scanned will be alerted with a message saying they are being scanned.
I'm almost certain this only happens if you fail a scan, and get a message along the lines "there was some margin for error." And that only happens if your scanner is worse than the profile of the target.
Quote:2. The blue beam that shoots out of the scanner pierces through rock and structures for as far as the scanner can see. Up close the enemy will not notice it because the beam is faint-looking at close distances. But if seen from far away, your enemy will be able to tell where the beam is coming from.
I've used scanners a lot, and although it's hard to tell how far the visible arc reaches, it looks it goes for only a few meters. |
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