The Federation awaits our peaceful Caldari brethren with open arms.

It was not our ancestors who began the violence between our peoples, it was the megacorps.

Perhaps this period of upheaval will remind the countless millions of downtrodden that there is another way.

you could always convert and repent the amarr always reward the faithful iv ever heard rumours that the first child of true immortality was a caldari that the empress herself chose

You burn our planet, twice, and drive capital ships into our stations and you state that you want "peaceful" Caldari? I would say there aren't any because you killed them all.

Be well.

I may be gallente but I like ishukone ill for Mens to stop heth and his insanity.

I hope my gallente brothers and sisters will join me and liberate the caldari from their ill chosen "leader"

Can't. Slavery is a big no-no. Not so much for moralistic reasons but because slaves naturally make an inferior product. Inferior product means people go elsewhere which means no ISK flow which is bad for business.

Be well.

The bombardment of Caldari Prime was a serious overreaction precipitated by Caldari terrorists who killed millions of innocent people who were just trying to live their lives. I have always stated that the bombardment was unnecessary and cruel- and many historians now share that opinion.

The Federation was not responsible for Admiral Yanala's indefensible decision to move Shigeru into low orbit- thereby guaranteeing a crash in the event of engine failure. Nor was the Federation responsible for Executor Heth's indefensible decision to park a planet killer in Luminaire. The Federation did not keep any titans in that system for the very reason that the State should never have done so- the presence of a planet killer in system demands its destruction by those it threatens. The Federation had not bombarded Caldari Prime in well over a century (almost two) and there was no reason to believe it would do so again. Moving Shigeru to Luminaire in the first place, without support fleets and supply lines, was nothing more than a demand that the Federation destroy her to protect the other planets in their system. I am surprised that they waited as long as they did.

It is also well known that Admiral Noir went insane. He was rather old and had been called back into duty for diplomatic reasons. It is easy for us, in hindsight, to recognize his mental fragility, but given his decades of pacifist advocacy he seemed to be the best man to represent the military in the talks. Let us not forget that Ishukone CEO Otro Gariushi (a longtime advocate of peace) and the Gallente Economic Minister also died at Malkalen. While the tragedy hit the State most directly, it also hurt the Federation. Malkalen was a tragic accident turned into a political capital by an opportunistic Tibus Heth.

The majority of the Federation, and especially us Intaki, have nothing but love for the Caldari PEOPLE. It is the state and its corrupt oligarchs that we detest, not those brave Caldari pioneers who helped forge the Federation in the first place.

I say this, even after the State auctioned off OUR home. I say this after the State illicitly supported violent extremists who hunted down and murdered Intaki leaders, only some of whom (like Kyraella Idama and Saxon Hawke) survived in some way. We understand that this violence was but the turning of the Cycle. We do not forget, but most of us can forgive.

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The beggining of wars are always debatable, what is done in them, it-¦s not.

I don-¦t recall crimes against civilian population being done by the Caldari, but they-¦re being done by the Gallente.

Crimes against the civilian population done by the Caldari?
Nouvelle Rouvenor. Hueromont. Shiigeru. Tovil. Arcurio.

The list goes on, and those are only the atrocities committed against the Gallente people. The State has a long record of firing on their own people, executing protestors, violently putting down rallies. Small wonder the people on Caldari Prime revolted.

Point all you want, the Gallente have their hands as dirty as the Caldari.

Hands do not wash themselves unless the heart wants cleanliness.
-Intaki Proverb

The point is that we have an opportunity for reconciliation amongst those in both nations who desire peace, security, and prosperity.

Our previous President, Foiritan, was generally a pacifist who spent much of his term keeping people like Mentas Blaque and Jacus Roden safely corralled.

Heth's ascendancy and Foiritan's inability to keep Shigeru out of Luminaire opened the door for the xenophobic and racist to seize power in the Federation.

If Heth is gone, there is no need for a monster like Roden.

We can work to restore friendly relations between our peoples.

Thus freeing us up to stomp bandits and other lowlifes who would terrorize the humble working folk our the many inhabited worlds of New Eden.

that is debatable and one does not have own slaves if you wish to pay someone for the work you can :) in fact more sensitive items i would never trust to slave. and if slaves labour is so poor how is it that the amarr empire is strongest and most powerful :)

Because a hammer doesn't need to be well made in order to pound something to dust. You would never see something as fine as a Leviathan or Avatar made by slaves. Now the Imparior...

Be well.

The first Amarrian titan was built by slaves. A majority of the Amarrian construction industry is based on slavery.

I am Amarr, but I sympathize with the Gallente situation. The Caldari have gone too far this time.
I'll be fighting for the Gallente if this comes to the hands of the Mercenaries.



The Egypt structures were built by slaves and yet they were respected as a wise and ahead of their time people.
The Amarrian civilization is no different from that.

Llan Heindell.

I was objecting to the statement that titans were 'too fine' to be built by slaves.

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All jokes aside Heth is a strong leader just radical by Gallente standards.

I know, if you read it right, you might notice that I was reenforcing your argument as the Egyptians have also built wonders with slavery.

Llan Heindell.