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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:53:00 -
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I have put a lot of thought into this & I think it would work out. A leveling up system! Not the type where you would need to be a certain level to use a skill or weapon but one that makes War Points actually worth something.
The way I was thinking this could work is you get a certain amount of War Points in a match. Those War Points are than added up thus when have enough to level up, your reward is Skills points and ISK.
Table
Level 1 - 2000 WPs - Reward: 500 SP + 20,000 ISK Level 2 - 3000 WPs - Reward: 700 SP + 25,000 ISK Level 3 - 4500 WPs - Reward: 790 SP + 30,000 ISK Level 4 - 5000 WPs - Reward: 900 SP + 32,000 ISK Level 5 - 5290 WPs - Reward: 950 SP + 35,000 ISK (Continuing further and further)
Note that once every level is earned, the War Points bar resets so it can be filled up again to earn the next tier.
I think this is a good idea because it makes War Points more of a factor & gives people more reasons to do more than just killing. Let me know what you guys think. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 01:56:00 -
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Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:27:00 -
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Interesting idea. Would be an improvement on the current system How would you incorporate boosters?
Also, I think you might be find it worthwhile to visiting this thread,
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72260&find=unread
Since it is related.
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 03:46:00 -
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Like it says above , this leveling up content can work as an extra income |
Aighun
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.05 04:06:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Like it says above , this leveling up content can work as an extra income
Would you want to give any other rewards in this system, or just SP and ISK?
Also, is this on top of the skill points we already earn for time spent in battle? Or does it replace them? I am assuming this leveling system would replace "active" SP gain for time spent in battles. |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.05 05:39:00 -
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War Points already factor into how many Skill Points and ISK you get in a match. They also let you get Orbital Strikes that give you a massive advantage by sanitizing a location. I don't know about you but I have won and lost matches because of clutch Orbitals that fried their targetsinto ash. This bonus is, simply put, a way for players that run with a squad/are 'better' to get ahead even more.
If you run in a 3 or 4 man Corp Squad and do well, you can get upwards of 2000+ WP per Ambush match. With everyone else on the team scrapping to get to 600+ because of 3-4 people routing the enemy so hard, those that have an inherent advantage in the skill or cooperation department are going to get a free bonus over those that already are not matching them. The wealth argument is also kind of flawed. If you get 2000 WP, you are probably going to earn 300K+ ISK. The extra 20K is almost nothing. It is actually worse if you don't hit those kinds of numbers as you will probably make more money through the multiple games it takes to hit the milestones.
Many people have already mentioned that Active Skill Points give an advantage to people that "have no life"; this would undoubtedly be a bonus to those that could play several hours a day. This is just my opinion but having a leveling up system that goes on infinitely like so rewards those too much. The up to 1,000 SP (1,500 with booster) a game after cap is already 'bad' enough without more freebies to exacerbate the situation.
Be well. |
Kazeno Rannaa
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 08:13:00 -
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If you thought people were on the grind now, with this system people would be perpetually on the grind.
This would make the game even more tedious than it already is at times, especially with the new skill tree layout and the refining of the training requirements. |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:53:00 -
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Aighun wrote:Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:Like it says above , this leveling up content can work as an extra income Would you want to give any other rewards in this system, or just SP and ISK? Also, is this on top of the skill points we already earn for time spent in battle? Or does it replace them? I am assuming this leveling system would replace "active" SP gain for time spent in battles.
I think the rewards are enough & this would be addition to what we earn now for every match |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:56:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:War Points already factor into how many Skill Points and ISK you get in a match. They also let you get Orbital Strikes that give you a massive advantage by sanitizing a location. I don't know about you but I have won and lost matches because of clutch Orbitals that fried their targetsinto ash. This bonus is, simply put, a way for players that run with a squad/are 'better' to get ahead even more.
If you run in a 3 or 4 man Corp Squad and do well, you can get upwards of 2000+ WP per Ambush match. With everyone else on the team scrapping to get to 600+ because of 3-4 people routing the enemy so hard, those that have an inherent advantage in the skill or cooperation department are going to get a free bonus over those that already are not matching them. The wealth argument is also kind of flawed. If you get 2000 WP, you are probably going to earn 300K+ ISK. The extra 20K is almost nothing. It is actually worse if you don't hit those kinds of numbers as you will probably make more money through the multiple games it takes to hit the milestones.
Many people have already mentioned that Active Skill Points give an advantage to people that "have no life"; this would undoubtedly be a bonus to those that could play several hours a day. This is just my opinion but having a leveling up system that goes on infinitely like so rewards those too much. The up to 1,000 SP (1,500 with booster) a game after cap is already 'bad' enough without more freebies to exacerbate the situation.
Be well.
I'm well acknowledged of how War Points work In game. Basically what trying to say is when outside of matches, have War Points work as EXP |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 14:59:00 -
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Kazeno Rannaa wrote:If you thought people were on the grind now, with this system people would be perpetually on the grind.
This would make the game even more tedious than it already is at times, especially with the new skill tree layout and the refining of the training requirements.
I understand it is these people the SP cap targets but the people who dedicate to this game game shouldn't get punished for making CCP more popular and giving CCP an idea of how well they've done with Dust 514 that people are willing to spend countless amounts of hours in a day. |
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Exmaple Core
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.05 15:04:00 -
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Sponglyboy Squaredoo wrote:I have put a lot of thought into this & I think it would work out. A leveling up system! Not the type where you would need to be a certain level to use a skill or weapon but one that makes War Points actually worth something.
The way I was thinking this could work is you get a certain amount of War Points in a match. Those War Points are than added up thus when have enough to level up, your reward is Skills points and ISK.
Table
Level 1 - 2000 WPs - Reward: 500 SP + 20,000 ISK Level 2 - 3000 WPs - Reward: 700 SP + 25,000 ISK Level 3 - 4500 WPs - Reward: 790 SP + 30,000 ISK Level 4 - 5000 WPs - Reward: 900 SP + 32,000 ISK Level 5 - 5290 WPs - Reward: 950 SP + 35,000 ISK (Continuing further and further)
Note that once every level is earned, the War Points bar resets so it can be filled up again to earn the next tier.
I think this is a good idea because it makes War Points more of a factor & gives people more reasons to do more than just killing. Also this can work as a bigger income of ISK for players who don't have the type of wealth to hop into battle with what they want, when they want.
Let me know what you guys think. I dont wanna fight a lv 17 AR. the next best thing doesent evolve untill LV36. GOTA NERFEM ALL! AR14~ |
Godin Thekiller
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
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Posted - 2013.05.05 19:39:00 -
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Sounds neat, but would our WP's have to be reset for this, or would everyone get rewards for this from current WP's?
Peace, Godin |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
Not Guilty EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.06 00:14:00 -
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[/quote] I dont wanna fight a lv 17 AR. the next best thing doesent evolve untill LV36. GOTA NERFEM ALL! AR14~[/quote]
This wouldn't effect anything but give rewards and a title |
Sponglyboy Squaredoo
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Posted - 2013.05.06 00:15:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Sounds neat, but would our WP's have to be reset for this, or would everyone get rewards for this from current WP's? Peace, Godin
The only reset to war points is the ones being added up to your level. Maybe, Depends how flexible CCP feels |
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