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Kazeno Rannaa Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 161	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:27:00 - [1] - Quote I have been thinking about this for a sec, and I'll give you the jist of where it is I ma coming from. IN the last keynote speeches at Fanfest, they notified the public, and US beta testers, that basically every race should have a version of all the same style/function of a weapon for each weapon slot (i.e., pistols, AV, knives, combat rifles, basic vehicles - LAV, HAV, dropship). With this in mind, should one consider the build coming up, Uprising, a complete game for release if even the basic issue gear has not been developed and implemented into the game for each race. What are peoples thoughts on this? I mean I would like to spec into my race versus me having to go against it, I would like to have the new gear before PC, I would like to have my Minnies be Minnies. You??
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1382	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:29:00 - [2] - Quote They don't care. They'll call it release for the press and still call it beta to shield it from reviews. Their PR is a freaking mess.
XXfootnoteXX DUST University Ivy League 241	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:29:00 - [3] - Quote Its the release in name. Incomplete game though.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 149	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:31:00 - [4] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: They don't care. They'll call it release for the press and still call it beta to shield it from reviews. Their PR is a freaking mess. Blah blah blah. If you don't like CCP I don't think anyone is forcing you to play. Anyhow, they have chosen to release it. If they can keep bringing out fixes and new content then I don't see any reason that new people won't be happy as things will be arriving while they work into skilling up.
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1382	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:33:00 - [5] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: They don't care. They'll call it release for the press and still call it beta to shield it from reviews. Their PR is a freaking mess. Blah blah blah. If you don't like CCP I don't think anyone is forcing you to play. Anyhow, they have chosen to release it. If they can keep bringing out fixes and new content then I don't see any reason that new people won't be happy as things will be arriving while they work into skilling up. This is purely CCP's attempt to have their cake and eat it too. Something many people have recently decried as a great injustice.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 140	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:36:00 - [6] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: This is purely CCP's attempt to have their cake and eat it too. You said the same thing when they said this wasn't CR, get over it. It makes no difference.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3680	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:37:00 - [7] - Quote While the game will never be complete, they really should wait until: > The full set of racial dropsuits and assault rifles are in. > A proper in-game tutorial where the player is taught to hack vehicles and installations, call strikes, set orders, switching weapons with tapping instead of holding, setting down equipment, and other finer gameplay aspects are explained. People aren't going to understand the game and it will get bad reviews. > PVE is added. PVE is needed at launch for an MMO. > Some sort of New Eden codex or timeline explaining the history of the world, why we're fighting, and who we're fighting for. The game has no storytelling to explain lore or why we should care.
Vance Alken Commando Perkone Caldari State 106	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:44:00 - [8] - Quote It feels like they're releasing on 5/14 just for the coincidence of the date and game's name. IMO release should only happen when there is some form of PvE and a full tutorial
des polo The Lions Guard 25	Posted - 2013.05.04 22:59:00 - [9] - Quote This is probaly one wild guest but i doubt this is the all of the planned uprising build. The two reasons for this is the fact the patch note list for this build is called Uprising 1.0 and they said in one of the latest devblogs that they are planning to have a content update soon. It is quite possible this update will be uprising 2.0. Now why would they call it uprising 1.0 if there wasn't going to be a 2.0 . So ccp probably decided to release what was ready and call it uprising 1.0 so they could make some finishing touches to odyssey and after it is released they will start finishing off the rest of the stuff planned for the build and then release all of it under uprsing 2.0.
Roaman Pierce Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 23:03:00 - [10] - Quote des polo wrote: This is probaly one wild guest but i doubt this is the all of the planned uprising build. The two reasons for this is the fact the patch note list for this build is called Uprising 1.0 and they said in one of the latest devblogs that they are planning to have a content update soon. It is quite possible this update will be uprising 2.0. Now why would they call it uprising 1.0 if there wasn't going to be a 2.0 . So ccp probably decided to release what was ready and call it uprising 1.0 so they could make some finishing touches to odyssey and after it is released they will start finishing off the rest of the stuff planned for the build and then release all of it under uprsing 2.0. Yeah they did say they were gonna have another build coming soon after release

Selinate deux Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2013.05.04 23:04:00 - [11] - Quote Please explain what difference it makes whether they call it a full release or an open beta at this point.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 145	Posted - 2013.05.05 02:45:00 - [12] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Please explain what difference it makes whether they call it a full release or an open beta at this point. None, console players don't play this and say "man, what a crappy beta" they say "man, what a crappy game".
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 150	Posted - 2013.05.05 02:53:00 - [13] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: This is purely CCP's attempt to have their cake and eat it too. Something many people have recently decried as a great injustice. LOL. How long do you plan to stay butthurt?
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2678	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:18:00 - [14] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Please explain what difference it makes whether they call it a full release or an open beta at this point. Makes a huge difference to the people with pre-nerf Merc Packs (who CCP are apparently planning to shaft right now).
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:22:00 - [15] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: They don't care. They'll call it release for the press and still call it beta to shield it from reviews. Their PR is a freaking mess. another imperfect QQ for us all to enjoy.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:23:00 - [16] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Noc Tempre wrote: This is purely CCP's attempt to have their cake and eat it too. Something many people have recently decried as a great injustice. LOL. How long do you plan to stay butthurt? being butthurt is their alliance's M.O.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:24:00 - [17] - Quote Kazeno Rannaa wrote: I have been thinking about this for a sec, and I'll give you the jist of where it is I ma coming from. IN the last keynote speeches at Fanfest, they notified the public, and US beta testers, that basically every race should have a version of all the same style/function of a weapon for each weapon slot (i.e., pistols, AV, knives, combat rifles, basic vehicles - LAV, HAV, dropship). With this in mind, should one consider the build coming up, Uprising, a complete game for release if even the basic issue gear has not been developed and implemented into the game for each race. What are peoples thoughts on this? I mean I would like to spec into my race versus me having to go against it, I would like to have the new gear before PC, I would like to have my Minnies be Minnies. You?? if you do your research you'll notice that they've said the rest of the suits and knives and pistols and ar's are coming soon (not TM) which means in the next few months. launch doesn't mean very much to ccp. they're trying to make something bigger.
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 54	Posted - 2013.05.05 03:26:00 - [18] - Quote des polo wrote: This is probaly one wild guest but i doubt this is the all of the planned uprising build. The two reasons for this is the fact the patch note list for this build is called Uprising 1.0 and they said in one of the latest devblogs that they are planning to have a content update soon AFTER release. It is quite possible this update will be uprising 2.0. Now why would they call it uprising 1.0 if there wasn't going to be a 2.0 . So ccp probably decided to release what was ready and call it uprising 1.0 so they could make some finishing touches to odyssey and after it is released they will start finishing off the rest of the stuff planned for the build and then release all of it under uprsing 2.0. you're an eve player, and far too informed for these forums. this is more about holding your bottom and crying :)
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 455	Posted - 2013.05.05 05:21:00 - [19] - Quote Selinate deux wrote: Please explain what difference it makes whether they call it a full release or an open beta at this point. If a beta has gameplay issues at its core, players feel encouraged to report them to better the game. If those same issues remain in a full release, players will fell encouraged to point out the developers laziness to fix them.
KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD Orion Empire 399	Posted - 2013.05.05 05:35:00 - [20] - Quote You must not be an EVE player. The Beta went on for a years from what my EVE friends tell me. Not a game I was ever interested in so it never mattered. CCP has a long view on the game. The Release phrase doesn't really matter much as CCP/Shanghai is going to keep adding features, weapons, vehicles and skills during each patch cycle. That is how EVE has been handled and there should be little expectation that DUST will be run differently. If they decided to call it Released versus Beta what is the actual difference? The Beta version has been reviewed in the press and commented on repeatedly. There are web sites dedicated to it, other than CCP sites. The only reason this is an issue is the Merc Pack Refund situation. CCP has come up with a solution that many thought, myself included, was the only way to address the issue. I don't want another character reset. Ever. If they want their $20 Merc Pack reset then they should get what has happened with each and every reset in the past. Which is a full character wipe and all items from the pack returned including AUR. You and I seem to occupy different areas in New Eden. Yours doesn't look very good from over here.



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