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The dark cloud wrote:

Here are the reasons:
-Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights)
additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage.

-HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range)
gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class

-removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers"
oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har.......

-more assaults suits added
herp derp where are my shield extenders?

-more logi suits added
oh yeah who are they gonna hug? the remains of the extincted heavys?

-charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category
yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever

So knowing this i will tell you what you need to be a allraound COD fighter:
-Assault suit
-assault rifle
-proto AV grenades
-a nanohive

this setup is idiot proof cause when you gonna see a tank you just need to throw 3 packed proto AV grenades and the mighty "enforcer" militia tank will explode in less then 5 secs. Seriously CCP you are making the game way too generic and COD/BF alike. And what happends to COD/BF clones? They will be abandoned and forgotten in less then a month. CCP you are playing with fire and if you keep it up you gonna burn your hands. This here is the console market and not PC gaming like eve is. You basically trying to reinvent the wheel by adding edge

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The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1324	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:37:00 - [1] - Quote Here are the reasons: -Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. -HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class -removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... -more assaults suits added herp derp where are my shield extenders? -more logi suits added oh yeah who are they gonna hug? the remains of the extincted heavys? -charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever So knowing this i will tell you what you need to be a allraound COD fighter: -Assault suit -assault rifle -proto AV grenades -a nanohive this setup is idiot proof cause when you gonna see a tank you just need to throw 3 packed proto AV grenades and the mighty "enforcer" militia tank will explode in less then 5 secs. Seriously CCP you are making the game way too generic and COD/BF alike. And what happends to COD/BF clones? They will be abandoned and forgotten in less then a month. CCP you are playing with fire and if you keep it up you gonna burn your hands. This here is the console market and not PC gaming like eve is. You basically trying to reinvent the wheel by adding edge
Anthem Of Chaos No-Mercy Get in the Van. 2	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:45:00 - [2] - Quote Quote: -removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... You do realize Marauders are only being removed temporarily so they can be reworked right? Quote: -charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever I use the C-15 almost religiously as well as a heavy with the Ishkone and Kaal. Both work fine for me, sniping people across the map all the way around regardless. Fairly sure this is just another baseless QQ Quote: -HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class Cause Heavies can't use Forge guns right. Pretty sure I can run around in a forge gun in a skirmish and rack up quite a few fun kills. Quote: -Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. Laser needed a bit of a nerf, though I agree that AR's need even more of a nerf. Before I got SS up I had quite a few people out ranging my Viziam with Geks and Duvolles.
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 311	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:46:00 - [3] - Quote Ah, another guy that played uprising ahead of its release.
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:48:00 - [4] - Quote And heavies can still use light weapons. I've seen many people kick *** with an AR heavy
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1612	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:49:00 - [5] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Here are the reasons: -Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. -HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class -removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... -more assaults suits added herp derp where are my shield extenders? -more logi suits added oh yeah who are they gonna hug? the remains of the extincted heavys? -charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever So knowing this i will tell you what you need to be a allraound COD fighter: -Assault suit -assault rifle -proto AV grenades -a nanohive this setup is idiot proof cause when you gonna see a tank you just need to throw 3 packed proto AV grenades and the mighty "enforcer" militia tank will explode in less then 5 secs. Seriously CCP you are making the game way too generic and COD/BF alike. And what happends to COD/BF clones? They will be abandoned and forgotten in less then a month. CCP you are playing with fire and if you keep it up you gonna burn your hands. This here is the console market and not PC gaming like eve is. You basically trying to reinvent the wheel by adding edge
Doyle Reese OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:50:00 - [6] - Quote I really want to save these topics for when patch day comes and people think differently
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1612	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:50:00 - [7] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: And heavies can still use light weapons. I've seen many people kick *** with an AR heavy AR heavy really
Logi Bro Eyniletti Rangers Minmatar Republic 1307	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:50:00 - [8] - Quote QQ, I will be playing logistics, I don't have any problems with my nerfs. The thing no one understands is that EVERYONE had some form of a nerf this build, you have no idea how extensive those nerfs are, as the poster above me sarcastically pointed out you have not played this build yet.
ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:08:00 - [9] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: ShwerShwerShwer wrote: And heavies can still use light weapons. I've seen many people kick *** with an AR heavy AR heavy really Yeah, I've got a friend who did that because he got his heavy suit skills before his HMG skills and even after he got the HMG he kept going back to the AR because he liked the versatility but also liked the ability to take a hit as a heavy. I know it's not for everybody but it is an option
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1324	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:15:00 - [10] - Quote Anthem Of Chaos wrote: Quote: -removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... You do realize Marauders are only being removed temporarily so they can be reworked right? Quote: -charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever I use the C-15 almost religiously as well as a heavy with the Ishkone and Kaal. Both work fine for me, sniping people across the map all the way around regardless. Fairly sure this is just another baseless QQ Quote: -HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class Cause Heavies can't use Forge guns right. Pretty sure I can run around in a forge gun in a skirmish and rack up quite a few fun kills. Quote: -Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. Laser needed a bit of a nerf, though I agree that AR's need even more of a nerf. Before I got SS up I had quite a few people out ranging my Viziam with Geks and Duvolles. the laser could be towned down a bit but the proto variant aint going to do more damage. 15HP base damage on all laser models. So why should i get laser rifle operation up to lvl 5 when i can use the lvl 1 variant that deals the same damage? Oh and about the "temporary removal off marauders".. they sayd the same thing about the black ops tanks (chakram/kubera) and you never saw them again. Im just waiting for CCP to pull off the stunt where they sell marauders for AUR only.

ShwerShwerShwer The Marching Mercs General Tso's Alliance 93	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:22:00 - [11] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: the laser could be towned down a bit but the proto variant aint going to do more damage. 15HP base damage on all laser models. So why should i get laser rifle operation up to lvl 5 when i can use the lvl 1 variant that deals the same damage? Oh and about the "temporary removal off marauders".. they sayd the same thing about the black ops tanks (chakram/kubera) and you never saw them again. Im just waiting for CCP to pull off the stunt where they sell marauders for AUR only. They're probably waiting to reintroduce both tanks when cloaking devices, capacitors, etc are added
Keyser Soze VerbalKint IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 197	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:24:00 - [12] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Here are the reasons: -Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. -HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class -removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... -more assaults suits added herp derp where are my shield extenders? -more logi suits added oh yeah who are they gonna hug? the remains of the extincted heavys? -charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever So knowing this i will tell you what you need to be a allraound COD fighter: -Assault suit -assault rifle -proto AV grenades -a nanohive this setup is idiot proof cause when you gonna see a tank you just need to throw 3 packed proto AV grenades and the mighty "enforcer" militia tank will explode in less then 5 secs. Seriously CCP you are making the game way too generic and COD/BF alike. And what happends to COD/BF clones? They will be abandoned and forgotten in less then a month. CCP you are playing with fire and if you keep it up you gonna burn your hands. This here is the console market and not PC gaming like eve is. You basically trying to reinvent the wheel by adding edge TLl;DR HTFU Everything one of those items can be tweaked through hotfix now that passive skills arent confounding the issue. CCP can actually analyze the data without having to control for the confounding variables and fine tune (SS, maruder, increased damage through skills etc) without these issues CCP can tweak and rollback if needbe. The mid grade tanks can be reworked and were removed to adjust the module slots since thats requires a change in code and thus new builds. So save that SP for those days. The nerf to HMG is fine given they are a defensive role and the major argument that heavies were weak because ARs could pick them apart becomes less of an issue with AR SS no longer augmenting effective range, thus pulling ARs closer into HMG optimal as well. Again this can be tweaked and augmented as needed. But lets not forget that Heavy crouch and the fact HMG disobey the laws of solid matter. But just because you cant play your role like an assualt player doesnt mean they killed your class they made it more in tune with what the role is supposed to play as. Frankly get creative and use the in game tools to overcome its limitations. Armor tanking is viable now so use it. Of course the game will transition to Assaults and logis they are the basic class for players to start. The other roles are Situational support roles and they need to function as such. Stop trying to approach your role as you would in a pub skrim or worse in ambush. Perhaps if you knew how to play organized battles you'd know how to play the roles in a way that makes them useful. Sorry not every role is designed to rack up kills, some are meant to be deterrants to attacks by offering support to the frontline killers. Assaults are frontline killers everything else is support. If you fail to see this then you never really understood how to play squad based tactical shooters. Noone said your role is supposed to be viable the way you wanted to play it. In short HTFU, Adapt or Die.
Cosgar The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 410	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:26:00 - [13] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: The dark cloud wrote: the laser could be towned down a bit but the proto variant aint going to do more damage. 15HP base damage on all laser models. So why should i get laser rifle operation up to lvl 5 when i can use the lvl 1 variant that deals the same damage? Oh and about the "temporary removal off marauders".. they sayd the same thing about the black ops tanks (chakram/kubera) and you never saw them again. Im just waiting for CCP to pull off the stunt where they sell marauders for AUR only. They're probably waiting to reintroduce both tanks when cloaking devices, capacitors, etc are added And then CoDers will QQ until HAV will be nerfed to uselessness. They'll probably be blown up by AR by then too.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 716	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:28:00 - [14] - Quote ShwerShwerShwer wrote: The dark cloud wrote: the laser could be towned down a bit but the proto variant aint going to do more damage. 15HP base damage on all laser models. So why should i get laser rifle operation up to lvl 5 when i can use the lvl 1 variant that deals the same damage? Oh and about the "temporary removal off marauders".. they sayd the same thing about the black ops tanks (chakram/kubera) and you never saw them again. Im just waiting for CCP to pull off the stunt where they sell marauders for AUR only. They're probably waiting to reintroduce both tanks when cloaking devices, capacitors, etc are added lol omg its priceless Ok see ya in 6 months- a year when they finally get around to that stuff (maybe) XD
Jax Saurian GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 27	Posted - 2013.05.04 04:29:00 - [15] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Here are the reasons: 1. Laser gets nerfed on range (due to shaprshooter removal and iron sights) additional lowered damage on proto so that all 3 lasers deal exactly the same damage. 2. HMG's get nerfed (less damage and range) gg CCP you just killed a whole dropsuit class 3. removal off the marauder class and beeing replaced with "enforcers" oh cool i allways wanted a militia tank with more modules har har har....... 4. more assaults suits added herp derp where are my shield extenders? 5. more logi suits added oh yeah who are they gonna hug? the remains of the extincted heavys? 6. charged sniper rifle moved from stnadard to proto category yeah its probs the only sniper that comes close to the thales but whatever 7. So knowing this i will tell you what you need to be a allraound COD fighter: -Assault suit -assault rifle -proto AV grenades -a nanohive 1. they needed the nerf 2. are you seriously saying heavies are useless now you so remember you have choices right? That includes putting a different weapon on the suit. 3. marauder is going to come back after rework 4. you're an idiot 5. you're an idiot 6. they take time to charge up so that makes it more balanced compared to other snipers in the same category 7. you misspelled all around and what is a cod fighter I've never heard of fighting fish


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