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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:45:00 -
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First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect they were tanks and damage dealers im thinking its because we were still in closed beta.
Ever since a little before open and open beta you guys have been listening to the complainers , the guys running around in assualt suits getting demolished by heavies , HEAVIES WERE MEANT TO DEMOLISH , not to be nerfed to ****
I mean cmon ccp why do you repeatedly nerf these dudes? You might as well not call them heavies at all untill you undo all the nerfs you have placed on them , might as well be called meat puppets
Now the hmg damage and range was already bad but now you guys are making it even worse?
Ccp you are listening to the causual fpsers a little too much about heavies when you should be listening to the people that ACTAULLY play heavies . Its makes absolutely zero sence
I dont want this to become a futuristic cod but if you keep nerfing and nerfing and nerfing then yeah it'll be a futuristic cod :(
As to all you complainers i really cant stand you at all, you sit and wine all day because of something you dont like and expect ccp to give you a pacifier when you should learning the game , and learning how to do teamwork
Not getting how that is so hard to understand , a smart person would never go 1v1 against a heavy in the e3 build and then wonder why they died no they would realize it takes more than one person to take a heavy down
Maybe there is sill some hope left for heavies if ccp realizes their mistakes and undoes every nerf they put on heavy suits cause of right now and with this new build heavies are usless |
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Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:49:00 -
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On the plus side, your HMG Heavy now costs roughly the same as an AR Assault. (Maybe even less, considering the lack of equipment and extra module slots. |
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Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:50:00 -
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The heavies were rofl tastic in E3.... they should never be that strong again.
However the should not be nerfed more...
A heavy should force you to pause and calculate how to engage not just be an amusingly slow +50
Well have to wait and see what they actually did to them before judging fully. Also without ss all weapons have a shorter range well have to see how the new hmg works without everyone at sharpshooter ranges. |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:51:00 -
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Knarf Black wrote:On the plus side, your HMG Heavy now costs roughly the same as an AR Assault. (Maybe even less, considering the lack of equipment and extra module slots. Eh i dont realy have a role on the battlefield yet doing too many experiments , this was just me voicing my opinin about the heavy |
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Protoman Is God
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:52:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect they were tanks and damage dealers im thinking its because we were still in closed beta.
Ever since a little before open and open beta you guys have been listening to the complainers , the guys running around in assualt suits getting demolished by heavies , HEAVIES WERE MEANT TO DEMOLISH , not to be nerfed to ****
I mean cmon ccp why do you repeatedly nerf these dudes? You might as well not call them heavies at all untill you undo all the nerfs you have placed on them , might as well be called meat puppets
Now the hmg damage and range was already bad but now you guys are making it even worse?
Ccp you are listening to the causual fpsers a little too much about heavies when you should be listening to the people that ACTAULLY play heavies . Its makes absolutely zero sence
I dont want this to become a futuristic cod but if you keep nerfing and nerfing and nerfing then yeah it'll be a futuristic cod :(
As to all you complainers i really cant stand you at all, you sit and wine all day because of something you dont like and expect ccp to give you a pacifier when you should learning the game , and learning how to do teamwork
Not getting how that is so hard to understand , a smart person would never go 1v1 against a heavy in the e3 build and then wonder why they died no they would realize it takes more than one person to take a heavy down
Maybe there is sill some hope left for heavies if ccp realizes their mistakes and undoes every nerf they put on heavy suits cause of right now and with this new build heavies are usless
YOUR WRONG |
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Jin Robot
Polar Gooks
385
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:53:00 -
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Why do people think ss being removed only effects heavies? There are 20 of theses threads started by 20 ppl who have made judgements based no first hand testing. |
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Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
961
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:53:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Nstomper wrote:First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect they were tanks and damage dealers im thinking its because we were still in closed beta.
Ever since a little before open and open beta you guys have been listening to the complainers , the guys running around in assualt suits getting demolished by heavies , HEAVIES WERE MEANT TO DEMOLISH , not to be nerfed to ****
I mean cmon ccp why do you repeatedly nerf these dudes? You might as well not call them heavies at all untill you undo all the nerfs you have placed on them , might as well be called meat puppets
Now the hmg damage and range was already bad but now you guys are making it even worse?
Ccp you are listening to the causual fpsers a little too much about heavies when you should be listening to the people that ACTAULLY play heavies . Its makes absolutely zero sence
I dont want this to become a futuristic cod but if you keep nerfing and nerfing and nerfing then yeah it'll be a futuristic cod :(
As to all you complainers i really cant stand you at all, you sit and wine all day because of something you dont like and expect ccp to give you a pacifier when you should learning the game , and learning how to do teamwork
Not getting how that is so hard to understand , a smart person would never go 1v1 against a heavy in the e3 build and then wonder why they died no they would realize it takes more than one person to take a heavy down
Maybe there is sill some hope left for heavies if ccp realizes their mistakes and undoes every nerf they put on heavy suits cause of right now and with this new build heavies are usless YOUR WRONG
YOU'RE* |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:54:00 -
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Protoman Is God wrote:Nstomper wrote:First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect they were tanks and damage dealers im thinking its because we were still in closed beta.
Ever since a little before open and open beta you guys have been listening to the complainers , the guys running around in assualt suits getting demolished by heavies , HEAVIES WERE MEANT TO DEMOLISH , not to be nerfed to ****
I mean cmon ccp why do you repeatedly nerf these dudes? You might as well not call them heavies at all untill you undo all the nerfs you have placed on them , might as well be called meat puppets
Now the hmg damage and range was already bad but now you guys are making it even worse?
Ccp you are listening to the causual fpsers a little too much about heavies when you should be listening to the people that ACTAULLY play heavies . Its makes absolutely zero sence
I dont want this to become a futuristic cod but if you keep nerfing and nerfing and nerfing then yeah it'll be a futuristic cod :(
As to all you complainers i really cant stand you at all, you sit and wine all day because of something you dont like and expect ccp to give you a pacifier when you should learning the game , and learning how to do teamwork
Not getting how that is so hard to understand , a smart person would never go 1v1 against a heavy in the e3 build and then wonder why they died no they would realize it takes more than one person to take a heavy down
Maybe there is sill some hope left for heavies if ccp realizes their mistakes and undoes every nerf they put on heavy suits cause of right now and with this new build heavies are usless YOUR WRONG explain
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General Tiberius1
ZionTCD Unclaimed.
477
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:54:00 -
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i agree with the OP, when i run in my militia AR suit, i can STILL kill heavies, even 1v1, so long as i am smart. yet they STILL complian because they can't kill us whle standing still 2 feet in front of us....seems CCP is listening to the idiots, as that soon will be the only way to kill stuff as a heavy |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
139
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Posted - 2013.05.03 19:56:00 -
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Val'herik Dorn wrote:The heavies were rofl tastic in E3.... they should never be that strong again.
However the should not be nerfed more...
A heavy should force you to pause and calculate how to engage not just be an amusingly slow +50
Well have to wait and see what they actually did to them before judging fully. Also without ss all weapons have a shorter range well have to see how the new hmg works without everyone at sharpshooter ranges.
They should be that strong, no one should be able to 1v1 a Heavy except another Heavy.
Mobility is the imbalance in the equation, they need to be slower, tougher, but much, much slower. |
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Icy Tiger
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
1377
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:The heavies were rofl tastic in E3.... they should never be that strong again.
However the should not be nerfed more...
A heavy should force you to pause and calculate how to engage not just be an amusingly slow +50
Well have to wait and see what they actually did to them before judging fully. Also without ss all weapons have a shorter range well have to see how the new hmg works without everyone at sharpshooter ranges. They should be that strong, no one should be able to 1v1 a Heavy except another Heavy. Mobility is the imbalance in the equation, they need to be slower, tougher, but much, much slower. What the f*** kind of logic is this? |
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:03:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:they need to be slower, tougher, but much, much slower.
Hi, I'm a well fit scout LAV ![Roll](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_roll.png)
As a former and potentially future heavy, I think this will be fine, since the primary balancing factor before was increased price. Just take a deep breath and wait until the build is actually on your playstation.
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:08:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:The heavies were rofl tastic in E3.... they should never be that strong again.
However the should not be nerfed more...
A heavy should force you to pause and calculate how to engage not just be an amusingly slow +50
Well have to wait and see what they actually did to them before judging fully. Also without ss all weapons have a shorter range well have to see how the new hmg works without everyone at sharpshooter ranges. They should be that strong, no one should be able to 1v1 a Heavy except another Heavy. Mobility is the imbalance in the equation, they need to be slower, tougher, but much, much slower. I disagree not as strong the e3 build and definately not much slower but, they do need a slight buff |
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Alaika Arbosa
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:09:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Val'herik Dorn wrote:The heavies were rofl tastic in E3.... they should never be that strong again.
However the should not be nerfed more...
A heavy should force you to pause and calculate how to engage not just be an amusingly slow +50
Well have to wait and see what they actually did to them before judging fully. Also without ss all weapons have a shorter range well have to see how the new hmg works without everyone at sharpshooter ranges. They should be that strong, no one should be able to 1v1 a Heavy except another Heavy. Mobility is the imbalance in the equation, they need to be slower, tougher, but much, much slower. What the f*** kind of logic is this?
Oops, forgot the part about making them AV targetable with some built in AV damage resistances (since they aren't true vehicles).
This would also solve the LAV solution provided by DUST Fiend. Swarm LAV, stay outside HMG range and Swarm Heavy until they die. |
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Mary Sedillo
XERCORE E X T E R M I N A T U S
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:11:00 -
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What? I've played for a while and a force of heavies are STILL a force to be reckoned with. I still have to think about how to engage them (usually dashing in and out of cover while shooting their heads or grenades). In some ways, they are a little strong, in others they are weak. Also, HMG and Sharpshooter? No, lol. Its an oxymoron. |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
794
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:12:00 -
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"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:13:00 -
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Mary Sedillo wrote:What? I've played for a while and a force of heavies are STILL a force to be reckoned with. I still have to think about how to engage them (usually dashing in and out of cover while shooting their heads or grenades). In some ways, they are a little strong, in others they are weak. Also, HMG and Sharpshooter? No, lol. Its an oxymoron. Eh not really , i can pretty much solo heavies with ease |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:14:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. Im sorry who are you again? |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:15:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Mary Sedillo wrote:What? I've played for a while and a force of heavies are STILL a force to be reckoned with. I still have to think about how to engage them (usually dashing in and out of cover while shooting their heads or grenades). In some ways, they are a little strong, in others they are weak. Also, HMG and Sharpshooter? No, lol. Its an oxymoron. Eh not really , i can pretty much solo heavies with ease Heavies are the only time I stop to think if to engage or not. There are times when engaging a heavy would mean you die. No way around it, you just die. |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
794
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:16:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. Im sorry who are you again? I'm the leader of all cats. Who are you? |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:20:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. Im sorry who are you again? I'm the leader of all cats. Who are you? The leader of people who stomp nutts nice to meet you |
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Cat Merc
BetaMax. CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:24:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. Im sorry who are you again? I'm the leader of all cats. Who are you? The leader of people who stomp nutts nice to meet you Nice to meet you too. So what do you do in life? |
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Bragian Order Amarr Empire
40
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:25:00 -
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Lol heavies |
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Nstomper
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:27:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:"First off lets look at the past , in the E3 build the heavies were perfect...." Stopped reading right there. They had more HP than a LAV and had a stupid high DPS HMG. Go away. Im sorry who are you again? I'm the leader of all cats. Who are you? The leader of people who stomp nutts nice to meet you Nice to meet you too. So what do you do in life? I'm waiting to start my overthrowing of humans and making cats the leaders of Earth. Going to college sion , gonna learn about game art design who knows hooefully my games turn out great |
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Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.05.03 20:33:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Nstomper wrote: Im sorry who are you again?
I'm the leader of all cats. Who are you? The leader of people who stomp nutts nice to meet you Nice to meet you too. So what do you do in life? I'm waiting to start my overthrowing of humans and making cats the leaders of Earth. Going to college sion , gonna learn about game art design who knows hooefully my games turn out great
Well, you can only go up.
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