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Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 76	Posted - 2013.05.03 10:46:00 - [1] - Quote Dropsuit data taken from https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=71629&find=unread https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=71528 Chosing your dropsuit is going to be about maximizing its bonuses to suit your playstyle and take advantage of the weapons and module suited for each suit Amar Assault Assault suit bonus: +5% dropsuit shield recharge rate / level Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat buildup / level The amarr dropsuit is designed to make the most of the scrambler rifle and the laser rifle so if you intend to make those weapons your bread and butter this suit is a must. all of the other dropsuits will be unable to make full use of these two weapons and it is unadvised to use these two weapons with other dropsuits. It is well suited to using its lows for armor tanking and its highs for shield regen or extenders with the ability to use damage mods without hindering its defense Caldari Assault Assault suit bonus: +5% dropsuit shield recharge rate / level Caldari Assault bonus: +2% hybrid weapon reload speed Caldari: 210/120. 300/60. H/4 L/3 LW/SW 5.0m/s 7.0m/s The caldari assault suit is perfectly suited to stacking as many extenders and other shield mods as possible and can forgo any armor based mods int he lows in favor of more shield mods. This dropsuit will need to use a hybrid weapon to take advantage of its skill bonus and should make use of the gallante assault rifle or shotgun as its hybrid weapons of choice. Gallente Assault assault suit bonus: +5% dropsuit shield recharge rate / level Gallente Assault bonus: 5% reduction to hybrid weaponry PG/CPU usage / level Gallente: 120/210. 300/60. H/3 L/4 LW/SW/ 5.0m/s 7.0m/s The Gallante assault suit specializes in armor mods and required hybrid weapons similar to the caldari assault. this suit is the armor version of the caldari dropsuit so if you want to use armor and the gallante assault rifle then this is the suit for you Minmatar assault Assault suit bonus: +5% dropsuit shield recharge rate / level Minmatar Assault bonus: +5% sidearm weaponry clip size / level Minmatar: 150/135. 320/64. H/5 L/2 LW/SW 5.3m/s 7.4m/s the Minmatar suit is the king of speed, its the fastest of all the assault suits and specializes in hit and run tactics. its best tanked with shields so that it can fully take advantage of its speed. its skill bonus improves its sidearm but currently there are only two weapons that can take advantage of it fully, the submachine gun and the scrambler pistol. this suit lends itself to using most primary weapons with equal effectiveness, but due to the scrambler rifles need for less heat buildup the minmatar suit cant make full use of it. (due to the flaylock pistols low ammo count at most the suits ability will be able to provide an aditional one shot per mag, and thats if the system rounds the numbers up, so it is unclear weather the pistol can take advantage of this suits bonus) Gallente scout Scout suit bonus: 5% reduction to scan profile / level Gallente scout bonus: +10% dropsuit scan radius / level Gallente: 70/130. 250/60. H/1 L/4 LW/SW 5.5m/s 7.6m/s Minmatar scout Scout suit bonus: 5% redution to scan profile / level Minmatar scout bonus: +5% melee & nova knife damage / level Minmatar: 100/70. 230/60. H/3 L/2 LW/SW 5.7m/s 7.9m/s The scout suits are easy to compaire, the gallante scout is the master of stealth as it can lower its profile further than any other suit in the game, the minimatar scout uses its extreme speed and you will probably make use of that by using modules to increase it even further to be the fastest dropsuit in the game. use the gllante suit if you want to remain hidden and execute stealth attacks/hacks and provide intel. Use the minmatar suit if you want to be quick as lightning and finish people off with knives and shotguns the logistics suits follow a very similar pattern to their assault equivalents, however their are only two noteworthy abilities, the minmatar suit has a built in hacking bonus, and the amarr logi has increased repair rate meaning its the only suit that can get away with putting only armor rep modules in its low slots. It may be wise to chose the logistics suit that matches the race of assault suit that you would prefer to run unless you intend to run JUST a logistics suit and never plan on cross training into an assault variant.
hydraSlav's Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 96	Posted - 2013.05.03 13:40:00 - [2] - Quote Good analysis
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3809	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:13:00 - [3] - Quote Good Guide, will read again. Mind doing similar with vehicles?
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 82	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:18:00 - [4] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Good Guide, will read again. Mind doing similar with vehicles? to be honest my experiance with vehicles is limited to creating railgun gunlogis and going mountain climbing. That and the vaariety in vehicles are limited at the moment, it would be different if all the racial varients were out and there was a big difference between each tank/weapon/fit but right now its too generic and my experiance is too limited.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 427	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:20:00 - [5] - Quote Wait...what? Universally, all assult suits have a bonus to shield recharge time. Um. What about armour tanking?
Middas Betancore Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 0	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:21:00 - [6] - Quote Good guide but I think u made a mistake on Amar logi, it's armour repair bonus is only for remote repair tools, not suit module
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 83	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:24:00 - [7] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: Good guide but I think u made a mistake on Amar logi, it's armour repair bonus is only for remote repair tools, not suit module it states armor repair modules, rep tools are equipment so it stands to reason that the skill effects the low slot repair modules and not the rep tool equipment
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 83	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:26:00 - [8] - Quote iceyburnz wrote: Wait...what? Universally, all assult suits have a bonus to shield recharge time. Um. What about armour tanking? the shield recharge is helpful reguardless of weather you shield or armor tank, for armor tanks getting that shield buffer back up takes the pressure off you armor rep modules and gives them some extra time to work their magic
Middas Betancore Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 0	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:29:00 - [9] - Quote My mistake I thought I'd read different, I thought suit having self rep was enough and that the second bonus was for remote repaur to make it support the other Amar better, my mistake, is there enough new vehicle stats for a guide?
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3809	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:30:00 - [10] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Middas Betancore wrote: Good guide but I think u made a mistake on Amar logi, it's armour repair bonus is only for remote repair tools, not suit module it states armor repair modules, rep tools are equipment so it stands to reason that the skill effects the low slot repair modules and not the rep tool equipment If the word remote is not mentioned it must be a localized repper.

Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 84	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:31:00 - [11] - Quote Middas Betancore wrote: My mistake I thought I'd read different, I thought suit having self rep was enough and that the second bonus was for remote repaur to make it support the other Amar better, my mistake, is there enough new vehicle stats for a guide? theres not enough vehicle variety yet in the game to make a guide worthwhile, your only choices are armor or shields everythign else is transferable between the two so theres really not enough vehicle content for a vehicle guide. however once all the racial vehicles are released i will do a compairison on them
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 652	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:32:00 - [12] - Quote The Gal Logi is going to be a beast when following around a Heavy. No need for speed when you're a two merc mobile fortress. Also, don't forget about the Min Assault's built in armor rep. Only 1hp/s, but no modules needed and it's not like you'll ever have much armor tank to work with..
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 84	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:33:00 - [13] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: The Gal Logi is going to be a beast when following around a Heavy. No need for speed when you're a two merc mobile fortress. he doubles as a shield wall as well :P
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 28	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:33:00 - [14] - Quote Good write-up man, thanks! You state that the gallente scout has the ability to lower it's scan profile more than any other suit in the game but I'm not seeing this (unless you mean any other non-scout suit) since the Minmitar scout suit has the same bonus to profile.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:40:00 - [15] - Quote Knarf Black wrote: The Gal Logi is going to be a beast when following around a Heavy. No need for speed when you're a two merc mobile fortress. But then, who would heal the medic? o.O i'd personally pair the heavy with a caldari logi, but that's just me. Good Analysis BTW, that Caldari Logi's shields are scary.
NeoWraith Acedia Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:40:00 - [16] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Good write-up man, thanks! You state that the gallente scout has the ability to lower it's scan profile more than any other suit in the game but I'm not seeing this (unless you mean any other non-scout suit) since the Minmitar scout suit has the same bonus to profile. More low slots I think.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 84	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:42:00 - [17] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Good write-up man, thanks! You state that the gallente scout has the ability to lower it's scan profile more than any other suit in the game but I'm not seeing this (unless you mean any other non-scout suit) since the Minmitar scout suit has the same bonus to profile. gallante scout has more low slots, wich means you can shove more profile dampeners on it lowering your profile purther
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 84	Posted - 2013.05.03 15:43:00 - [18] - Quote NeoWraith Acedia wrote: Knarf Black wrote: The Gal Logi is going to be a beast when following around a Heavy. No need for speed when you're a two merc mobile fortress. But then, who would heal the medic? o.O i'd personally pair the heavy with a caldari logi, but that's just me. Good Analysis BTW, that Caldari Logi's shields are scary. yah im worried about caldari logis being supiror assault suits than the caldari assaults :P
Matticus Monk Ordus Trismegistus 28	Posted - 2013.05.03 16:13:00 - [19] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Good write-up man, thanks! You state that the gallente scout has the ability to lower it's scan profile more than any other suit in the game but I'm not seeing this (unless you mean any other non-scout suit) since the Minmitar scout suit has the same bonus to profile. gallante scout has more low slots, wich means you can shove more profile dampeners on it lowering your profile purther Right on. Duh on my parth. Thanks Chance and Neo.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 87	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:39:00 - [20] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: Matticus Monk wrote: Good write-up man, thanks! You state that the gallente scout has the ability to lower it's scan profile more than any other suit in the game but I'm not seeing this (unless you mean any other non-scout suit) since the Minmitar scout suit has the same bonus to profile. gallante scout has more low slots, wich means you can shove more profile dampeners on it lowering your profile purther Right on. Duh on my parth. Thanks Chance and Neo. no problem

Exmaple Core SyNergy Gaming EoN. 229	Posted - 2013.05.04 01:48:00 - [21] - Quote pick any of the assults youl do fine
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 90	Posted - 2013.05.04 03:17:00 - [22] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: pick any of the assults youl do fine true enough, but i was attempting to point out that the dropsuits have different playstyles and things they are good at and bad at. so idealy you will either want to pick one that suits your playstyle best, or adapt your playstyle to the suit you like the best.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 94	Posted - 2013.05.06 08:36:00 - [23] - Quote bump for new relevance
The Loathing The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION 41	Posted - 2013.05.06 09:40:00 - [24] - Quote I like this discussion. Minmatar Assault is just too appealing to pass up for me. Mass Driver coupled with Flaylock in a hit and run style tactic is gonna be a whole lotta fun. The interesting decision is whether to add Complex Damage Mods or Complex Shield Mods.......to hell with it. BOTH and then a mix!
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 95	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:00:00 - [25] - Quote The Loathing wrote: I like this discussion. Minmatar Assault is just too appealing to pass up for me. Mass Driver coupled with Flaylock in a hit and run style tactic is gonna be a whole lotta fun. The interesting decision is whether to add Complex Damage Mods or Complex Shield Mods.......to hell with it. BOTH and then a mix! dont forget the passive 1hps built in armor repair, minmatar are the only race with this feature and its incredably awesome
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 210	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:42:00 - [26] - Quote I think people really appreciate this guide. Great work dude. As for me I was planning to go Amarr Assault since I saw the most recent trailer and now with what you told me I sure as hell am speccing into it regardless of it plays.
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 97	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:45:00 - [27] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: I think people really appreciate this guide. Great work dude. As for me I was planning to go Amarr Assault since I saw the most recent trailer and now with what you told me I sure as hell am speccing into it regardless of it plays. witht he popularity of shields you will find that while you may not be fast, you will absolutely melt people. as a minmatart shield tanker im definatly afraid of those who are going amarr with lasers/scramblers
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 210	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:52:00 - [28] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: I think people really appreciate this guide. Great work dude. As for me I was planning to go Amarr Assault since I saw the most recent trailer and now with what you told me I sure as hell am speccing into it regardless of it plays. witht he popularity of shields you will find that while you may not be fast, you will absolutely melt people. as a minmatart shield tanker im definatly afraid of those who are going amarr with lasers/scramblers I find that is the case already but it does not stop you trolling me with your remote explosive....I mean I should know better when I see you on the other team but.....
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 97	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:54:00 - [29] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Chances Ghost wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: I think people really appreciate this guide. Great work dude. As for me I was planning to go Amarr Assault since I saw the most recent trailer and now with what you told me I sure as hell am speccing into it regardless of it plays. witht he popularity of shields you will find that while you may not be fast, you will absolutely melt people. as a minmatart shield tanker im definatly afraid of those who are going amarr with lasers/scramblers I find that is the case already but it does not stop you trolling me with your remote explosive....I mean I should know better when I see you on the other team but..... oh RE's my favorite weapon in this game, too bad i wont be able to carry them on assaults in PC matches due to having to fit the required nanite injector. if you thought it was bad before just wait because they just got a buff to the number you can carry.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 210	Posted - 2013.05.06 10:59:00 - [30] - Quote You are an evil soul, do you know that?

Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 98	Posted - 2013.05.06 11:01:00 - [31] - Quote i was hoping that people wouldnt start getting paranoid about RE's the second they saw my name in a game, but it looks like i wont be able to get away with that for much longer, looks like im going to have to expand my traps to include a wider blast radius so even if you get the one on the objective i can lay waste to an entire base insert evil laughter
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 99	Posted - 2013.05.06 11:25:00 - [32] - Quote bumping to get all the "omg im downloading" posts off the front page I will keep an eye on this thread all day if people have any questions about anything feel free to ask me and ill help the best i can
Domingo Cervezas Cult of the Warrior 18	Posted - 2013.05.06 11:37:00 - [33] - Quote Great post but you need a legend at the top, like what are those stats around those slash marks, ex..... Amarr: 180/180. 350/70. H/3 L/3 LW/SW 4.8m/s 6.7m/s 180/180 what?/what? LW? SW? 4.8 m/s is run? sprint?
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 101	Posted - 2013.05.06 12:04:00 - [34] - Quote Added in the legend as requested.
Domingo Cervezas Cult of the Warrior 20	Posted - 2013.05.07 21:49:00 - [35] - Quote Looks good. It's missing the equipment slot, come to think of it, there are some differences between the races.
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 21	Posted - 2013.05.07 22:10:00 - [36] - Quote Does my character need to be Minmatar in order to get the specialization bonuses for the Minmatar assaults? (my character is originally AMARR) Pleas i need this question answered. TY
Disturbingly Bored Universal Allies Inc. 191	Posted - 2013.05.07 22:17:00 - [37] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Does my character need to be Minmatar in order to get the specialization bonuses for the Minmatar assaults? (my character is originally AMARR) Pleas i need this question answered. TY No. Anyone can use anything with equal effectiveness so long as they have the required skills. Race is just for "flavor." It'll affect your portrait options if we ever get an EVE-style character generator.


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