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BOZ MR
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Posted - 2013.05.01 19:59:00 -
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How is that suppose to be a good tank and meta lv 6 while a madrugar is plain better? |
BobThe843CakeMan
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:01:00 -
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where u read tht? link? |
Noc Tempre
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:01:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:How is that suppose to be a good tank and meta lv 6 while a madrugar is plain better?
Hull damage bonus. Still won't be worth it, but that's the reasoning. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:02:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:BOZ MR wrote:How is that suppose to be a good tank and meta lv 6 while a madrugar is plain better? Hull damage bonus. Still won't be worth it, but that's the reasoning.
Nope here it is. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:04:00 -
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Does a crap ton of damage though. I do disagree with the "glass cannon" idea though, but it seems balanced enough. |
Icy Tiger
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:05:00 -
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Also, as of now, most of the better tankers have damage mods stacked anyways, so it's the same thing. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:06:00 -
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Icy Tiger wrote:Also, as of now, most of the better tankers have damage mods stacked anyways, so it's the same thing.
Same thing if you are railgun tanking. |
BobThe843CakeMan
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:15:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Also, as of now, most of the better tankers have damage mods stacked anyways, so it's the same thing. Same thing if you are railgun tanking.
in the description it says good for range tanking so the armor one will suck as blasters r for short range XD. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:24:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:BOZ MR wrote:Icy Tiger wrote:Also, as of now, most of the better tankers have damage mods stacked anyways, so it's the same thing. Same thing if you are railgun tanking. in the description it says good for range tanking so the armor one will suck as blasters r for short range XD.
Yeah, it will be Go Go Madrugar!! |
JW v Weingarten
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:29:00 -
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This is a load of ******* bullsh*t, i am not happy with this. I wonder why the tanks are worth 1.2m isk. stats look like complete sh*t |
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Iskandar Zul Karnain
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:31:00 -
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loltanks
How exactly is this supposed to fix tank battles? |
BobThe843CakeMan
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Posted - 2013.05.01 20:31:00 -
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wat i don't understand is why someone would want a glass armor tank well sucks to be u guys. :(. i want my sagais back since most likely shield tanks will get a boost to missiles. and rails will get ignored and if this is true it will be a gunnlogi for me. Lol |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:04:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:wat i don't understand is why someone would want a glass armor tank well sucks to be u guys. :(. i want my sagais back since most likely shield tanks will get a boost to missiles. and rails will get ignored and if this is true it will be a gunnlogi for me. Lol
Madrugar 4 ever. |
Mavado V Noriega
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:21:00 -
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Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote:loltanks
How exactly is this supposed to fix tank battles?
lolccp |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.05.01 21:24:00 -
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Moves us closer to 1shotting eachother instead of epic tank battles, CCP dropping the ball again when it comes to vehicles, idiots. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 22:46:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Moves us closer to 1shotting eachother instead of epic tank battles, CCP dropping the ball again when it comes to vehicles, idiots.
Simply, we will receive tanks that are much weaker than a madrugar and gunloggi that is supposed to replace sagaris and surya. Btw Surya is much better since it has more, pg, cpu, armor, shield and damage bonus output due to marauder skill.
Nice job SeeSeePee |
Rasatsu
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:00:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Moves us closer to 1shotting eachother instead of epic tank battles, CCP dropping the ball again when it comes to vehicles, idiots.
Pretty much this, today one-shotted a tank, noticed another which I two-shotted.
Yet my tank had to run away from a guy with a sniper rifle cause he had AV grenades... |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:03:00 -
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Rasatsu wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Moves us closer to 1shotting eachother instead of epic tank battles, CCP dropping the ball again when it comes to vehicles, idiots. Pretty much this, today one-shotted a tank, noticed another which I two-shotted. Yet my tank had to run away from a guy with a sniper rifle cause he had AV grenades...
It id prrfectyl bslanced. I wanna kill you my addalt rayfl swag.
^balance of this community and devs sadly. |
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Posted - 2013.05.01 23:31:00 -
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What have you done CCP? |
BobThe843CakeMan
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Posted - 2013.05.02 00:31:00 -
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BOZ MR wrote:What have you done CCP?
well they r meant to be glass cannons. but on the other hand why would u have an armor glass cannon i don't know. But for shield tanks it will make redline sniping easier with zoom bonus. :D. but u know it makes ur blaster have longer range for armor tanks. :). |
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Aythadis Smith
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Posted - 2013.05.02 02:50:00 -
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So (I just on the shield side)
Ehem....
So...600 less shield, about 300a less armor, 10 less CPU but the PG stayed the same. Let me think for a minute.
Weaker tank, but I get damage mods.
Soooo.... I get to go poorer quicker. This better be a joke. A sick sad joke.
So unless Forge Guns are becoming cupcakes and rice, I really don't feel this. I mean, I would be hiding on the red line with a rail. Yeah, really helping the team there. SUPER!.....
CCP, I don't want to sound like a whiny child but, how did this get the green light? I mean, really here. I imagine this board room and I see the one guy saying "you why not make a tank that kinda smells like a tank" .....then I see him ejected from a window.
Only two people will use this, idiots and red line sniper tanks. Sad part, unless it has proto equivalent of PG upgrades, he wont beadle to sit with enough shield to even sit in a fire fight.
Now making an Armor tank a sniper tank too? Is your bright idea of making tanks hidden? Or making them more of a squad dependent? I mean, a Sag with a smart team was a god. A Suya (sp) was a god. What are these things? Priuses ?? |
The dark cloud
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Posted - 2013.05.02 03:32:00 -
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Told ya that this is basically a stealth nerf off the marauders. Those tanks are inbreed variants off a sica and a sagaris or a soma and a surya. Both looks stupid and nobody wants to be affiliated with it. If they would have more firepower then our actual marauders then you could argue with it but this is just a abomination. What happend to the kubera and chakram? Why remove the sagaris and surya? Those 2 where iconic tanks trough all off the builds that i have played and i loved them cause they fill fear and respect to the enemy if they see a sagaris and surya on the field. But now with those inbreed tanks every 1 will just grab their militia swarms and blow them up cause its easy to do. And CCP really needs to learn how to determinate the value of a vehicle. What i see is that it can be fitted worse then our marauders but costs actually the same. What logic is that? You promised us high damaging tanks. Not abominations off sicas and somas. But yeah go on and offer more P2W tanks like the creadron breach HAV that has 3700PG as basic. To be honest they shouldnt remove the Sagaris and surya. |
howard sanchez
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Posted - 2013.05.02 03:54:00 -
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Maybe you guys have this right. Maybe these are meant to be sniper tanks, able to stack a diversity of enhancement mods but not to hard a tank.
This, as you adroitly point out, relegates employment of this weapon platform to a position of relative safety. Like the blue backfield. But if they can prove to be a threat from behind the redline that would inherently expand the size of the battle space.
See, I know all you forum warriors are front line trigger pullers but there are a lot of us support players who operate best from behind the front line.
Ccp's decision to keep the whole map relavent in terms of meaningful contribution, in my humble opinion, is insightful.
Peace be with you,
Life of Clone. |
Re Warping Shooter
Grupo de Asalto Chacal
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Posted - 2013.05.02 03:55:00 -
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If this are the stats for uprising tanks, then fuc dat, im getting heavy so enemy blue berries "teamwork" to take me down.
Not some stupid scout throwing 3 AV nades and blow up a 6k armor tank.
Lame, CCP, lame. |
hydraSlav's
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:01:00 -
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Hey OP, you've got a problem with your CAPS LOCK key. Looks like you had it when you created your character too. |
Mavado V Noriega
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:05:00 -
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BobThe843CakeMan wrote:BOZ MR wrote:What have you done CCP? well they r meant to be glass cannons. but on the other hand why would u have an armor glass cannon i don't know. But for shield tanks it will make redline sniping easier with zoom bonus. :D. but u know it makes ur blaster have longer range for armor tanks. :).
COMMON sense would be to give the armor one a defensive bonus instead of offensive.....but NOOOOOOOO |
Charlotte O'Dell
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Posted - 2013.05.02 04:40:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Maybe you guys have this right. Maybe these are meant to be sniper tanks, able to stack a diversity of enhancement mods but not to hard a tank.
This, as you adroitly point out, relegates employment of this weapon platform to a position of relative safety. Like the blue backfield. But if they can prove to be a threat from behind the redline that would inherently expand the size of the battle space.
See, I know all you forum warriors are front line trigger pullers but there are a lot of us support players who operate best from behind the front line.
Ccp's decision to keep the whole map relavent in terms of meaningful contribution, in my humble opinion, is insightful.
Peace be with you,
Life of Clone.
Let me guess- you're a redline sniper. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:09:00 -
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nothing to do with your thread... but all caps in the thread was needed?
ARE YOU SHOUTING? CUZ THIS IS HOW ANGRY PEOPLE OVER THE INTERNET SPEAKS. |
KEQ Harbinger
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Posted - 2013.05.02 05:50:00 -
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Last thing this game needs is sniper tanks again- stupid CCP :(....I hope it's not as bad as I think, when the new build hits... i remember the old Sniper Missile tanks spawn sniping the entire fishbowl.... |
crazy space 1
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:34:00 -
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Also they take a total of 12 million sp to get those bonuses! That's 40 weeks of sp grinding just to make its meh bonuses worthwhile. Ans that's just the tank core skill you need modules support and so on. |
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Charlotte O'Dell
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Posted - 2013.05.02 06:51:00 -
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my redline railgun sniping is better than yours |
BOZ MR
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:46:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:nothing to do with your thread... but all caps in the thread was needed?
ARE YOU SHOUTING? CUZ THIS IS HOW ANGRY PEOPLE OVER THE INTERNET SPEAKS.
YES I AM ANGRY. |
WyrmHero1945
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Posted - 2013.05.02 07:54:00 -
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You still have madrugar/gunnlogi. This is just another class of tank, not necessarily better than the STD ones. This is similar to the logistics dropships, lower PG in exchange for a CRU. This one happens to be a glass cannon good for long range combat. It's obvious more classes of tanks will be released and it seems CCP is looking at variety rather than all-in one god-mode vehicle. |
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Posted - 2013.05.02 09:39:00 -
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Why would CCP do this........again? (Tanker Groundhog Day) Nerf Tanks into oblivion instead of fixing Imbalances. I can already "Snipe" just fine w/ a Gunnlogi.....Infantry & all, w/ a Rail.....so why do I need to sacrifice the already Squishy "Tank" Pi+Ķata for a roll of Toilet Paper w/ Glasses??? I'd ask CCP for a Trashbin in my Merc Quarters to directly deposit my ISK into........but they'd take me seriously & instead simply tell me to take a "Blaster Rifle" to my Wallet to expedite my request. Gladly my Exile AR has just enough Range/Accuracy left to hit my Dropsuit Pocket for full damage as it should be less than 1M in distance.
Can't wait to see LOGI 514 :P |
Guinevere Bravo
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:00:00 -
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Man the forums are fun today, im loving the TEARICIDE. |
Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:08:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:You still have madrugar/gunnlogi. This is just another class of tank, not necessarily better than the STD ones. This is similar to the logistics dropships, lower PG in exchange for a CRU. This one happens to be a glass cannon good for long range combat. It's obvious more classes of tanks will be released and it seems CCP is looking at variety rather than all-in one god-mode vehicle.
Doesn't matter, why run a good tanked HAV when it's going to get instagibbed by a buffed up redline sniper? It's ******* ridiculous, I don't think anyone said "Tanks can't kill eachother fast enough, please give us the ability to 1shot a good tank" did they? No, we wanted a stronger defence, not more offense. |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2013.05.02 10:31:00 -
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so a gaint expensive coffin just like ccp has promised YOU ARE RUINING HAVS CCP IF WE WANTED TO SNIPER WE'DE BE FUCKIN SNIPERS |
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