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WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.25 08:24:00 -
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Caldari Myron:
-2 proto scattered small blasters -2 complex turret mods -2 light azeotropic shield extenders -1 shield hardener -1 light clarity ward booster
3200 shield HP. Can survive 2 proto FG hits, tanking the 2nd with the hardener. This thing can't get any better. And I'm terrified of using one because I'm broke atm. It's too weak. :( |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
360
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Posted - 2013.04.25 08:27:00 -
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And? What's your point? Crash that **** and let your training corp cover the cost. |
Rynoceros
One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas
25
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Posted - 2013.04.25 09:34:00 -
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Can't wait to shoot it down. With Militia gear. |
Freshticles
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
53
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Posted - 2013.04.25 09:41:00 -
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As a user of Caldari LAVs and Dropships, I know that feel bro. Vehicle shield tanking (specifically light reppers) really need a buff.
Gunnlogi still gets **** done however. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.04.25 09:43:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:Caldari Myron:
-2 proto scattered small blasters -2 complex turret mods -2 light azeotropic shield extenders -1 shield hardener -1 light clarity ward booster
3200 shield HP. Can survive 2 proto FG hits, tanking the 2nd with the hardener. This thing can't get any better. And I'm terrified of using one because I'm broke atm. It's too weak. :( I have something like that with HAV's, I push fit to the limits, and then I scare to use it because it just die so fast. Surya for example, people are saying that it is best tanking-tank in this game, but on battlefield it's more like best running-tank. Whenever I spawn it on random, whole match all I need to do is run, because everyone want to kill it.
We need some buff with hp, resistant maybe. |
Another Heavy SOB
TRUE TEA BAGGERS Orion Empire
42
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Posted - 2013.04.25 09:52:00 -
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Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Caldari Myron:
-2 proto scattered small blasters -2 complex turret mods -2 light azeotropic shield extenders -1 shield hardener -1 light clarity ward booster
3200 shield HP. Can survive 2 proto FG hits, tanking the 2nd with the hardener. This thing can't get any better. And I'm terrified of using one because I'm broke atm. It's too weak. :( I have something like that with HAV's, I push fit to the limits, and then I scare to use it because it just die so fast. Surya for example, people are saying that it is best tanking-tank in this game, but on battlefield it's more like best running-tank. Whenever I spawn it on random, whole match all I need to do is run, because everyone want to kill it. We need some buff with hp, resistant maybe.
If you "die so fast" in a Surya with a fit that's "push to limit" you clearly need to use the driver not suck modules. |
Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion RISE of LEGION
535
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Posted - 2013.04.25 11:05:00 -
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2x Low Throughput Field Stabilizer II. Total damage bonus, taking into account stacking penalty: 19.56% extra damage
Turret Operation I + Small Hybrid Turret Operation V + Small Hybrid Turret Proficiency II = 2% + 15% + 2% = 19% extra damage
20GJ Scatter Ion Cannon: 42.2 damage per round, 857.1 RPM.
42.2 + (42.2 x (19.56% + 19%)) = 58.47 per round. At 857.1 RPM, that's 835DPS.
Am I doing my calculations right? If so... that's some insane damage output. |
Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax. CRONOS.
44
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:14:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:Caldari Myron:
-2 proto scattered small blasters -2 complex turret mods -2 light azeotropic shield extenders -1 shield hardener -1 light clarity ward booster
3200 shield HP. Can survive 2 proto FG hits, tanking the 2nd with the hardener. This thing can't get any better. And I'm terrified of using one because I'm broke atm. It's too weak. :( I have something like that with HAV's, I push fit to the limits, and then I scare to use it because it just die so fast. Surya for example, people are saying that it is best tanking-tank in this game, but on battlefield it's more like best running-tank. Whenever I spawn it on random, whole match all I need to do is run, because everyone want to kill it. We need some buff with hp, resistant maybe. If you "die so fast" in a Surya with a fit that's "push to limit" you clearly need to use the driver not suck modules. Looking at the modern fighting vehicles, they have cameras at edge allowing them to know what's going on at the corner street, they have drones that constantly track battlefield and can clearly tell where is enemy tank. In Dust HAV does not have even backwards camera, and to check what is doing enemy tank you need to open map(with does not show you with module are currently active on you tank). Optics can be blinded by Swarms smoke they generate.
So it's not about driving it self, it's about several things like, camera system, radar, minimap, types of view: noctovision, termic viesions; possibylity to do 2 things at the same time like: activating modules and keep shooting, driving and shooting ppl that chase you, at the end tanking modules should be stronger or HAV should be stronger itself . Right now driving is to sensitive to errors, when you drive on a objective tank can stuck in place or flip around, and he should slip from the surface. HAV should not handle the soft ground same as hard.
..and a lot more thing more.... |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2599
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:23:00 -
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Sica
Passive Resistance Mod Heavy Shield Extender Shield Extender
2x Powergrid mod that also gives shield bonus
Level up Circuitry and Engineering to make the fit work with Militia mods, and you can build this for about 250,000 ISK. Load up your choice of (cheap) weapons, and it's a nice low-cost option - 2 battles and it's paid off with ISK to spare.
If your Dropship is too expensive, make a cheaper version, and don't use it every battle - save up for a few matches, buy a couple, save more, then use one. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2878
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:31:00 -
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JL3Eleven wrote:And? What's your point? Crash that **** and let your training corp cover the cost.
He's just in GATT. as a recruit not a trainee just an FYI |
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Rei Shepard
Spectre II
162
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:38:00 -
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Vehicles are not meant to be of infinite supply, if you can't spare 700k ISK 5 times in a match, in this universe it means DONT use it. |
Halador Osiris
Dead Six Initiative
219
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Posted - 2013.04.25 12:48:00 -
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Your fit is very close to mine, but with a few tweaks. Run the stabilized blasters, they'll let you fly higher. Fly higher = GTFO faster. They are, however, incredibly expensive on PG. Supplant that with a local power diagnostic unit, and you're golden. Look, you got 7% extra base tank out of it, too! Another bonus, it's only 649,000 ISK. Save money + Add Tank + Add Range + Make it easier to run = Profit. You're gonna lose about 10 damage per shot, but honestly the range is so much more useful than the damage. You don't have to chase after redberries, you just have to hover there providing a stable platform for your gunners and wait for forge blasts. When they come, get the heck out. |
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GM Hercules
Game Masters C C P Alliance
424
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Posted - 2013.04.25 14:06:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
246
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Posted - 2013.04.25 15:30:00 -
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Halador Osiris wrote:Your fit is very close to mine, but with a few tweaks. Run the stabilized blasters, they'll let you fly higher. Fly higher = GTFO faster. They are, however, incredibly expensive on PG. Supplant that with a local power diagnostic unit, and you're golden. Look, you got 7% extra base tank out of it, too! Another bonus, it's only 649,000 ISK. Save money + Add Tank + Add Range + Make it easier to run = Profit. You're gonna lose about 10 damage per shot, but honestly the range is so much more useful than the damage. You don't have to chase after redberries, you just have to hover there providing a stable platform for your gunners and wait for forge blasts. When they come, get the heck out. having good gunners or people speced tanks in your gunner slots helps a ton. when I was firing I seen the hp go down fast but the other gunner it was actually much slower so gunner skill in turrets is important on top of all of this above. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
136
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Posted - 2013.04.25 16:37:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:2x Low Throughput Field Stabilizer II. Total damage bonus, taking into account stacking penalty: 19.56% extra damage
Turret Operation I + Small Hybrid Turret Operation V + Small Hybrid Turret Proficiency II = 2% + 15% + 2% = 19% extra damage
20GJ Scatter Ion Cannon: 42.2 damage per round, 857.1 RPM.
42.2 + (42.2 x (19.56% + 19%)) = 58.47 per round. At 857.1 RPM, that's 835DPS.
Am I doing my calculations right? If so... that's some insane damage output.
IDK because the fitting screen say 12% damafe from the turret mods. Also I have turret operation 3 so that's 6% damage and for scattered proto blasters it's turret operation 2 so 4% damage. So my turrets are easily doing more than +60 damage per round. But that's the **** they're so expensive I don't think they're worth putting in a dropship. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
136
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Posted - 2013.04.25 16:45:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:Moved from General Discussion.
I think you meant training grounds :P |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
972
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Posted - 2013.04.25 19:12:00 -
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Freshticles wrote:As a user of Caldari LAVs and Dropships, I know that feel bro. Vehicle shield tanking (specifically light reppers) really need a buff.
Gunnlogi still gets dropship done however. Actually, Shield tanked dropships aka Myrons are better than Grimsnes. Best Tanking for each vehicle class is as follows; LAV's - Armor Dropships - Shield HAV's - Armor
so basically land vehicles should be armor tanked. |
WyrmHero1945
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
137
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Posted - 2013.04.25 20:54:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Freshticles wrote:As a user of Caldari LAVs and Dropships, I know that feel bro. Vehicle shield tanking (specifically light reppers) really need a buff.
Gunnlogi still gets dropship done however. Actually, Shield tanked dropships aka Myrons are better than Grimsnes. Best Tanking for each vehicle class is as follows; LAV's - Armor Dropships - Shield HAV's - Armor so basically land vehicles should be armor tanked.
But Grimsnes can have an afterburner or CRU without worrying about sacrificing HP. Or is the PG not enough for 2 plates, the hardener and the repairer? |
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