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xAkantor
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:50:00 -
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I am by no means the best, or even a good tank driver. I have a nice fit for my gunnlogi but, I think it could be better. Just not sure how.
My current Blaster fitting:
High:
1 Heavy Converse Shield Booster
3 Azeotropic Shield Extenders
1 Surge Shield Reinforcement
Low:
1 Altered M-Type Nanofiber
1 Jovian fusion Powerplant
Turret:
1 AT-1 Cycled Missile Launcher
1 20GJ Scattered Neutron Blaster
1 80GJ Scattered Neutron Blaster
Any advice would be appreciated. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:13:00 -
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I used to run with a large shield tank but have found the following fit great for both anti infantry and anti vehicle
Gunlogi
High slots-heavy clarity ward shield booster , heavy azetropic ward shield extender , 3 surge shield hardeners
Low slotts - beta power expansion unit , power diognostic unit
Large turret - 80gj scattered neutron blaster
Small turret front - 20gj scattered neutron blaster
Small turret top - 20gj stabalised neutron blaster.
This tank will take a bit of getting used to with all the micro manage ment but if you time it right you can have a constant 30% dammage reduction and the ability to acctivate all the mods for tanking serious av . |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
186
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:18:00 -
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I am a shield tanker as well and can tell you that you should not need the nanofiber, shield tanks are fast enough and this only increase your top speed. the jovian fusion power plant... same boat. small blaster are ok. now for the high slots there is no way you would ever want 3 shield extenders especially the light/low ones, those are meant for LAVs and dropships. that a major part of your survivability. while you might not have as much HP booster help more then just extenders so switch to a heavy extender and you will have about the same HP with 2 free slots surprise!! free slots for resistances and/or boosters depending on how you do your low slots. I do powergrid upgrades as shield tanks are weakest in that part and they help a lot on easy of fitting.
now just think about the choice between active resisters and passive. active for 10 seconds with a cooldown of 30 seconds with a 30% resist so only for heavy damage short time frames or passives with a 15%per with stacking penalty, with 2 that's just slightly under one active without having to worry about activating them for the whole time its deployed. choice is yours, most go passive for the easiness of not having a ton of modules to worry about while running and gunning.. but this is only for blasters.. to setup for rail there is somethings that help in other ways. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
262
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:33:00 -
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I have 3 to 4 shield extenders on some of my gunnlogis. Make sure you get a Heavy Azerotropic Ward Shield Extender in that fit. Put a couple of Azeotropic Ward Shield Extenders (the light ones) too. Shield HAVs work much better with railguns since PG is the limiting factor. You'll be close to enemy AV, and that means you'll be taking some damage. The mechanic on passive shield resist mods is questionable. I never use them. You will also need the best shield booster you can fit.
You can fit PG mods to give you better survivability, and you'll probably need that if you're using a blaster turret. Use small turrets for fitting purposes only.
I have anymore gunnlogi w/blaster turrets because for about 2 weeks of SP you can have an armor tank with a blaster which can kick your gunnlogi's ass any day. Shield tanks have an advantage in HAV vs HAV combat, but armor tanks have a clear advantage in HAV vs Infantry. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
186
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:46:00 -
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try harder you clearly outlined a rail tank, not a blaster tank. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
262
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Posted - 2013.04.21 22:57:00 -
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ladwar wrote:try harder you clearly outlined a rail tank, not a blaster tank.
Nah, I just refitted a gunnlogi to double check. Scattered Neutron Blaster, 2x small missile turrets, 3x shield extenders, 1x booster.
Low slots can be many different things. You can drop a "light" shield extender if you'd like to fit a damage mod. The last high slot can also be many different things. Active heat sink, another shield extender, a shield hardener, the choice is up to you.
There are many HAV threads on this forum, and Caeli put up a normal rail fit in the general forums. (It's liked in one of the tank threads here.) |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
186
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Posted - 2013.04.21 23:00:00 -
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ah so that's why your gunnlogi blows up so easy |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.22 01:33:00 -
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Raw hp is good for rail tanking but I think the fit I described is quite meaty and I can go 6 or 7 skirmiskes in before I loose one of the builds I mentiond. |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
262
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:08:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Raw hp is good for rail tanking but I think the fit I described is quite meaty and I can go 6 or 7 skirmiskes in before I loose one of the builds I mentiond.
You also mentioned a stabilized small blaster turret 0_0 |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.22 14:40:00 -
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Yea the stabalised blaster gives my top gunner a bit more range and makes it easyer for them to hit thise pesky malitia av rambos that often try to get above me . I only put the stabalised blasters on because one of my gunbers prefers them . All the gunners in my corp have turret skills and proficiencys so most small turrets (even the malitia ones) pack a punch . |
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Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
265
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Posted - 2013.04.22 15:47:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Yea the stabalised blaster gives my top gunner a bit more range and makes it easyer for them to hit thise pesky malitia av rambos that often try to get above me
He'd have an even easier time if he was outside of your HAV with a gun.
Small turrets are bad. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.22 16:35:00 -
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Small turrets arnt that bad the proto ones on my myron rip everything from infantry to tanks apart anf as I said if your gunners have turret skills and proficiences then they are deadly . |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
201
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Posted - 2013.04.22 22:39:00 -
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dropships, if your to close to the close prepare for small arms fire and av nades so you range yourself thus giving stabalised a place to be used. if a small turret gunner is trying to hit something out of range then that's not why I put them there on my HAV, my turret will smash them just fine. I put small turrets mostly because I have to so I put them for what I need most close personal non AV annoyances and for other vehicles like LAVs which like to ram me. I don't need my small turrets to have much range. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:04:00 -
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I guess thats the beauty of this game everyone can fit appropriatly for there squad I myself prefere scatterd blasters when im co gunning and one of my gunners preferes the stabalised |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
201
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Posted - 2013.04.22 23:12:00 -
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i prefer missiles but my DS pilot won't give me them.. |
woka 18
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.04.23 02:17:00 -
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xAkantor wrote:I am by no means the best, or even a good tank driver. I have a nice fit for my gunnlogi but, I think it could be better. Just not sure how.
My current Blaster fitting:
High:
1 Heavy Converse Shield Booster
3 Azeotropic Shield Extenders
1 Surge Shield Reinforcement
Low:
1 Altered M-Type Nanofiber
1 Jovian fusion Powerplant
Turret:
1 AT-1 Cycled Missile Launcher
1 20GJ Scattered Neutron Blaster
1 80GJ Scattered Neutron Blaster
Any advice would be appreciated.
3 reinforcements and 1 heavy extender ( aside from this ur build is fine) also dnt use missles they dnt work |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:34:00 -
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resistance mods man, resistance mods. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
202
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Posted - 2013.04.23 03:59:00 -
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says they guy who never used missiles.. they are making a comeback. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.23 09:55:00 -
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ladwar wrote:i prefer missiles but my DS pilot won't give me them..
If you see me in game give me a shout ill take you out in my ds and let you try the proto cycled they are evil . |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.23 10:19:00 -
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An yea most people I hear complaining about missiles havent skilled bast the tier2 standard the advanced and proto missiles are nasty |
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Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
45
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:12:00 -
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the quick firing small missle turret ( dont know its name) on the front of a tank adds a hell of alot of DPS when taking out instalations/tanks
the blaster on the top is for me when i dont want ot risk getting out of my poor tank when some random fool with a swarm launcher trys to sneak up on my in the mountains |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
214
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Posted - 2013.04.23 19:33:00 -
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cycled |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
214
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Posted - 2013.04.23 20:01:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:An yea most people I hear complaining about missiles havent skilled bast the tier2 standard the advanced and proto missiles are nasty
smalls are, large has problems that need to be worked over and fixed so that have role again, but hey don't get me wrong if anti-installation is their role its a very limited one right now and rails can do it better with range. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
142
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Posted - 2013.04.23 22:01:00 -
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Oh yea the large missiles are well and truly broken I skilled them to level 4 just to see if it was the same as the small turrets but sadly not . |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
571
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Posted - 2013.04.26 16:52:00 -
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looks like your wasting your low slots, I would use PG mods or Damage mods in your lows instead |
slap26
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
571
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Posted - 2013.04.26 16:54:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Oh yea the large missiles are well and truly broken I skilled them to level 4 just to see if it was the same as the small turrets but sadly not .
But when you get a kill you laugh your ass off. I'm going proto large missiles prior to the skill respec just for the laughs |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
250
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Posted - 2013.04.26 17:19:00 -
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well good luck for your laughs? post a video when you do I want to see the people you kill. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
149
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Posted - 2013.04.26 18:29:00 -
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Yea I did love the kills when they came but I think the most I got in one game with large missiles was 8 or 9 lol lotts of assists. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
251
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Posted - 2013.04.26 19:25:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Yea I did love the kills when they came but I think the most I got in one game with large missiles was 8 or 9 lol lotts of assists.
I never get assist but I score slightly higher, you use fragmented? |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
149
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Posted - 2013.04.26 22:37:00 -
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Cycled with a heavy payload controll 2 and a systemic controll system 2 I call it the spammer |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
251
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Posted - 2013.04.26 22:42:00 -
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meh... I run the accelerated missiles because as others as just to slow and allows even heavies to walk out of the path. |
pegasis prime
The Shadow Cavalry Mercenaries
149
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Posted - 2013.04.27 11:06:00 -
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I do like the accelerated but the fire rate with the cycled and mods is frightening it really dose provide some good area denial and infantry support. |
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