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ALM1GHTY STATIUS
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
306
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:16:00 -
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"Note that this re-spec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the re-spec."
source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update/
So you know how much money I'm going to have omg. suddenly PC doesn't seem so scary when everyone will be getting 100m ISK ATLEAST. |
Geth Massredux
Defensores Doctrina
164
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:18:00 -
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Well, everybody needs to be ready for PC. So spec into your roll wisely... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
184
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:21:00 -
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one GEK-38 post PC 100m isk, thank you and good bye. |
Mithridates VI
DUST 411
908
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Posted - 2013.04.21 03:22:00 -
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It's been explained elsewhere that this only applies to items which they remove and we don't yet know which items those are. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:12:00 -
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Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players). |
Cosgar
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
30
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:23:00 -
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To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
339
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:25:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).
IKR. If I lost my 50 Gaustons FG I will be super pissed. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
184
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Posted - 2013.04.21 05:37:00 -
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I know I want to sell you my 30 Gauston FG. but im pretty sure if it is something you can buy as of right now in the market that those will be changed over for ISK. btw how much are Logistic dropships? I have well over 250 of them.. I really hope the game takes those away for ISK. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
476
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:01:00 -
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ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:"Note that this re-spec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the re-spec." source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update/So you know how much money I'm going to have omg. suddenly PC doesn't seem so scary when everyone will be getting 100m ISK ATLEAST. Are you really this bored? |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
953
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Posted - 2013.04.21 06:36:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe.
Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well.
It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game.
Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again?
They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles. |
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Patoman Radiant
ZionTCD
65
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Posted - 2013.04.21 07:20:00 -
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Everything just got better
also temp solves the issue of not being able to barter items |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2567
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Posted - 2013.04.21 09:23:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game. Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again? They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles. From the way they've talked about it on the forums, they may only be refunding weapons that have a new equivalent.
ARs because Scramblers, Swarm Launchers because Plasma Cannon, etc. |
Django Quik
R.I.f.t
354
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Posted - 2013.04.21 09:55:00 -
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Why would they bother doing this month long event to give us loads of items if they're just going to take them all away the week after? I think you've misinterpreted that line of the dev blog. |
JL3Eleven
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group
339
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Posted - 2013.04.21 09:57:00 -
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Django Quik wrote:Why would they bother doing this month long event to give us loads of items if they're just going to take them all away the week after? I think you've misinterpreted that line of the dev blog.
Because CCP is trolling us. |
cranium79
ZionTCD
39
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Posted - 2013.04.21 13:54:00 -
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"In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
still seems vague. "removed from your inventory" means anything of value?, anything dropped from the market?, everything currently in your inventory?, what? i would assume that if they refund your entire inventory, that would be anything with a market value (officer and rare salvage stuff probably won't apply since it has no market value) i would take it. it would save me from being stuck with a bunch of assets that i can't or won't use again, such as militia tanks and possibly drop suits (if i choose to leave caldari). i'm sure there are a lot of people who would agree with me. i mean, if i bought 1000 dropsuits and all of a sudden decided i was specing into another race, i'd be mad. even with the 100 or so i have right now, it still kind of ticks me off.
basically, they can refund all of my assets, SANS officer and rare SALVAGE, and i don't care. any market value salvage is fine too, as long as i get the isk it's worth. i'd probably be sitting on like 50-100M isk after that . it's not like i just can't repurchase the stuff. rewinning market value salvage isn't that big of a deal to me either. |
Altina McAlterson
Not Guilty EoN.
480
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Posted - 2013.04.21 15:49:00 -
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cranium79 wrote:"In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
still seems vague. "removed from your inventory" means anything of value?, anything dropped from the market?, everything currently in your inventory?, [/guote] It means anything that is "removed from your inventory."
[quote=cranium79] it would save me from being stuck with a bunch of assets that i can't or won't use again, such as militia tanks and possibly drop suits (if i choose to leave caldari). i'm sure there are a lot of people who would agree with me. i mean, if i bought 1000 dropsuits and all of a sudden decided i was specing into another race, i'd be mad. even with the 100 or so i have right now, it still kind of ticks me off.
"As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well."
Quote: basically, they can refund all of my assets, SANS officer and rare SALVAGE
That's correct since you can't be refunded for something you didn't pay for. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
186
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Posted - 2013.04.21 20:15:00 -
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lol I just checked and I should be getting 122.4mil back just from those dropships!! booyea! payday!!! |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:11:00 -
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Geth Massredux wrote:Well, everybody needs to be ready for PC. So spec into your roll wisely... Which just means everybody going assault. Nothing new for this game, because that's all everybody cares about, and wants to be playable, is assault. Damn the heavy class, and damn tanks, because the assault fanboys don't want them, and CCP will make it so. |
Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:12:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players). I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely. |
Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
702
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players). I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely.
Unlikely. They are found in EVE as well.
However, from what I've seen of the new dropsuits, it looks like we are getting essentially Tech 2 variants of some suits.
That means that the game is likely to escalate further in terms of costs.
Militia gear just won't cut it for most PC and FW matches. |
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Spkr4theDead
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:18:00 -
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Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players). I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely. Unlikely. They are found in EVE as well. However, from what I've seen of the new dropsuits, it looks like we are getting essentially Tech 2 variants of some suits. That means that the game is likely to escalate further in terms of costs. Militia gear just won't cut it for most PC and FW matches. Militia gear sure as hell destroys everything I put on the battlefield with efficiency that I'm jealous of. |
Nstomper
Disqualified
225
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Posted - 2013.04.21 21:25:00 -
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Aww man i hope they dont take way my "wolfmans something scrambler pistol" |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
188
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Posted - 2013.04.22 00:36:00 -
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shouldn't but take pics/notes of your gear and ask for it back. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
477
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Posted - 2013.04.22 02:42:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).
60 Balacs??
Imagine the response of someone who has 80 Balacs, 90 Krins, 90 TARs, 85 Calas, 75 Gastuns HMG, 125 Wyrkomi av grenades, 19 Sagaris, 18 Suryas, 65 Gastun forge (forgot serial#), 55 Wolfmans PCP, 250 EXO mass drivers?? hell wheres my officer versions??
Whats more useless 125 Prometheus dropships or 115 Eryx (forgot name)??
Not that I have all that yummy stuff.....whistles... but just imagine if I did and next day its GONE!! Oh HELLL NOOOOO! My assets better not be empty in favor of some ISK!!!!
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Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
477
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Posted - 2013.04.22 02:44:00 -
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Nstomper wrote:Aww man i hope they dont take way my "wolfmans something scrambler pistol"
Wolfmans PCP pistol. Not that I have 55 of them....whistles.
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
191
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Posted - 2013.04.22 02:48:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players). 60 Balacs?? Imagine the response of someone who has 80 Balacs, 90 Krins, 90 TARs, 85 Calas, 75 Gastuns HMG, 125 Wyrkomi av grenades, 19 Sagaris, 18 Suryas, 65 Gastun forge (forgot serial#), 55 Wolfmans PCP, 250 EXO mass drivers?? hell wheres my officer versions?? Whats more useless 125 Prometheus dropships or 115 Eryx (forgot name)?? Not that I have all that yummy stuff.....whistles... but just imagine if I did and next day its GONE!! Oh HELLL NOOOOO! My assets better not be empty in favor of some ISK!!!! underlined safe.. rest you can buy those |
KalOfTheRathi
Talon Strike Force LTD
346
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:20:00 -
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Don't start spending your lottery dollars until the ticket is cashed. Or even bought in this case.
They did not state that every will be removed and turned into ISK or AUR. They might do it but they might not just as well. What if they AR basically doesn't change much. Why remove it or Officer weapons.
Why remove any Salvage items at all? When the Player Market opens and excess, unwanted and unskilled items can be sold then Salvage can be handled there.
Everything that the Devs decide to remove will be compensated for. What the list is exactly has carefully been avoided if you read without getting all hyper about it.
Time will tell and Forum Posting Speculation will probably be the last place to find accurate information. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
378
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Posted - 2013.04.22 03:25:00 -
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Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game. Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again? They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles.
It makes sense they would refund ISK of items we purchased, which is fine I can just re-purchase if needed. But hopefully CCP doesn't lump salvage into that category as well. If anything, they should refund/replenish any salvage that was used. |
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