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        |  ALM1GHTY STATIUS
 Imperfects
 Negative-Feedback
 
 306
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 03:16:00 -
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 "Note that this re-spec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the re-spec."
 
 source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update/
 
 
 So you know how much money I'm going to have omg. suddenly PC doesn't seem so scary when everyone will be getting 100m ISK ATLEAST.
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        |  Geth Massredux
 Defensores Doctrina
 
 164
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 03:18:00 -
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 Well, everybody needs to be ready for PC. So spec into your roll wisely...
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 
 184
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 03:21:00 -
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 one GEK-38 post PC 100m isk, thank you and good bye.
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        |  Mithridates VI
 DUST 411
 
 908
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 03:22:00 -
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 It's been explained elsewhere that this only applies to items which they remove and we don't yet know which items those are.
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        |  DJINN leukoplast
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 378
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 05:12:00 -
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 Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).
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        |  Cosgar
 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
 DARKSTAR ARMY
 
 30
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 05:23:00 -
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 To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe.
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        |  JL3Eleven
 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
 Noir. Mercenary Group
 
 339
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 05:25:00 -
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 DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  
 
 IKR. If I lost my 50 Gaustons FG I will be super pissed.
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 
 184
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 05:37:00 -
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 I know I want to sell you my 30 Gauston FG. but im pretty sure if it is something you can buy as of right now in the market that those will be changed over for ISK. btw how much are Logistic dropships? I have well over 250 of them.. I really hope the game takes those away for ISK.
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        |  Altina McAlterson
 Not Guilty
 EoN.
 
 476
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 06:01:00 -
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 ALM1GHTY STATIUS wrote:"Note that this re-spec only applies to your current skills, and items that you have in your inventory. The refund value of ISK and AUR items will be based on the market value at the time of the re-spec." source: http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/04/skill-system-changes-in-uprising-update/ So you know how much money I'm going to have omg. suddenly PC doesn't seem so scary when everyone will be getting 100m ISK ATLEAST. Are you really this bored?
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        |  Sloth9230
 Reaper Galactic
 
 953
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 06:36:00 -
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 Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. 
 
 Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. 
 It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game.
 
 Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again?
 
 They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles.
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        |  Patoman Radiant
 ZionTCD
 
 65
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 07:20:00 -
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 Everything just got better
 
 also temp solves the issue of not being able to barter items
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        |  Garrett Blacknova
 Codex Troopers
 
 2567
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 09:23:00 -
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 Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game. Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again? They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles. From the way they've talked about it on the forums, they may only be refunding weapons that have a new equivalent.
 
 ARs because Scramblers, Swarm Launchers because Plasma Cannon, etc.
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        |  Django Quik
 R.I.f.t
 
 354
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 09:55:00 -
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 Why would they bother doing this month long event to give us loads of items if they're just going to take them all away the week after? I think you've misinterpreted that line of the dev blog.
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        |  JL3Eleven
 Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
 Noir. Mercenary Group
 
 339
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 09:57:00 -
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 Django Quik wrote:Why would they bother doing this month long event to give us loads of items if they're just going to take them all away the week after? I think you've misinterpreted that line of the dev blog. 
 Because CCP is trolling us.
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        |  cranium79
 ZionTCD
 
 39
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 13:54:00 -
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 "In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
 
 still seems vague. "removed from your inventory" means anything of value?, anything dropped from the market?, everything currently in your inventory?, what? i would assume that if they refund your entire inventory, that would be anything with a market value (officer and rare salvage stuff probably won't apply since it has no market value) i would take it. it would save me from being stuck with a bunch of assets that i can't or won't use again, such as militia tanks and possibly drop suits (if i choose to leave caldari). i'm sure there are a lot of people who would agree with me. i mean, if i bought 1000 dropsuits and all of a sudden decided i was specing into another race, i'd be mad. even with the 100 or so i have right now, it still kind of ticks me off.
 
 basically, they can refund all of my assets, SANS officer and rare SALVAGE, and i don't care. any market value salvage is fine too, as long as i get the isk it's worth. i'd probably be sitting on like 50-100M isk after that
  . it's not like i just can't repurchase the stuff. rewinning market value salvage isn't that big of a deal to me either. | 
      
      
        |  Altina McAlterson
 Not Guilty
 EoN.
 
 480
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 15:49:00 -
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 cranium79 wrote:"In short, you will get your skill points (SP) back and the ISK and AUR (in-game currencies) value of any item that is removed from your inventory."
 still seems vague. "removed from your inventory" means anything of value?, anything dropped from the market?, everything currently in your inventory?,
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 It means anything that is "removed from your inventory."
 
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 it would save me from being stuck with a bunch of assets that i can't or won't use again, such as militia tanks and possibly drop suits (if i choose to leave caldari). i'm sure there are a lot of people who would agree with me. i mean, if i bought 1000 dropsuits and all of a sudden decided i was specing into another race, i'd be mad. even with the 100 or so i have right now, it still kind of ticks me off.
 
 
 "As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well."
 
 
 Quote:basically, they can refund all of my assets, SANS officer and rare SALVAGE
 That's correct since you can't be refunded for something you didn't pay for.
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 
 186
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 20:15:00 -
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 lol I just checked and I should be getting 122.4mil back just from those dropships!! booyea! payday!!!
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        |  Spkr4theDead
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 21:11:00 -
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 Geth Massredux wrote:Well, everybody needs to be ready for PC. So spec into your roll wisely...  Which just means everybody going assault. Nothing new for this game, because that's all everybody cares about, and wants to be playable, is assault. Damn the heavy class, and damn tanks, because the assault fanboys don't want them, and CCP will make it so.
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        |  Spkr4theDead
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 21:12:00 -
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 DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely.
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        |  Vaerana Myshtana
 Bojo's School of the Trades
 
 702
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 21:14:00 -
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 Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely. 
 Unlikely. They are found in EVE as well.
 
 However, from what I've seen of the new dropsuits, it looks like we are getting essentially Tech 2 variants of some suits.
 
 That means that the game is likely to escalate further in terms of costs.
 
 Militia gear just won't cut it for most PC and FW matches.
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        |  Spkr4theDead
 Namtar Elite
 Gallente Federation
 
 52
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 21:18:00 -
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 Vaerana Myshtana wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  I hope they remove all officer's weapons and keep them out of the game completely. Unlikely. They are found in EVE as well. However, from what I've seen of the new dropsuits, it looks like we are getting essentially Tech 2 variants of some suits. That means that the game is likely to escalate further in terms of costs. Militia gear just won't cut it for most PC and FW matches. Militia gear sure as hell destroys everything I put on the battlefield with efficiency that I'm jealous of.
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        |  Nstomper
 Disqualified
 
 225
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.21 21:25:00 -
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 Aww man i hope they dont take way my "wolfmans something scrambler pistol"
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 
 188
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 00:36:00 -
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 shouldn't but take pics/notes of your gear and ask for it back.
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        |  Tech Ohm Eaven
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 477
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 02:42:00 -
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 DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  
 60 Balacs??
 
 Imagine the response of someone who has 80 Balacs, 90 Krins, 90 TARs, 85 Calas, 75 Gastuns HMG, 125 Wyrkomi av grenades, 19 Sagaris, 18 Suryas, 65 Gastun forge (forgot serial#), 55 Wolfmans PCP,
 250 EXO mass drivers?? hell wheres my officer versions??
 
 Whats more useless 125 Prometheus dropships or 115 Eryx (forgot name)??
 
 Not that I have all that yummy stuff.....whistles... but just imagine if I did and next day its GONE!! Oh HELLL NOOOOO!
 My assets better not be empty in favor of some ISK!!!!
 
 
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        |  Tech Ohm Eaven
 L.O.T.I.S.
 
 477
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 02:44:00 -
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 Nstomper wrote:Aww man i hope they dont take way my "wolfmans something scrambler pistol" 
 Wolfmans PCP pistol.
 Not that I have 55 of them....whistles.
 
 
 
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        |  ladwar
 Dead Six Initiative
 
 191
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 02:48:00 -
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 Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:DJINN leukoplast wrote:Yeah, thought it was only for items being removed. But I better not have all my assets turned to ISK, I have something like 60 Balac's and would be ticked if they took those away. Screw ISK, those things are priceless (at least for assault players).  60 Balacs?? Imagine the response of someone who has80 Balacs, 90 Krins, 90 TARs, 85 Calas, 75 Gastuns HMG , 125 Wyrkomi av grenades, 19 Sagaris, 18 Suryas, 65 Gastun forge (forgot serial#), 55 Wolfmans PCP ,  250 EXO mass drivers?? hell wheres my officer versions?? Whats more useless 125 Prometheus dropships or 115 Eryx (forgot name)?? Not that I have all that yummy stuff.....whistles... but just imagine if I did and next day its GONE!! Oh HELLL NOOOOO! My assets better not be empty in favor of some ISK!!!! underlined safe.. rest you can buy those
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        |  KalOfTheRathi
 Talon Strike Force LTD
 
 346
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 03:20:00 -
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 Don't start spending your lottery dollars until the ticket is cashed. Or even bought in this case.
 
 They did not state that every will be removed and turned into ISK or AUR. They might do it but they might not just as well. What if they AR basically doesn't change much. Why remove it or Officer weapons.
 
 Why remove any Salvage items at all? When the Player Market opens and excess, unwanted and unskilled items can be sold then Salvage can be handled there.
 
 Everything that the Devs decide to remove will be compensated for. What the list is exactly has carefully been avoided if you read without getting all hyper about it.
 
 Time will tell and Forum Posting Speculation will probably be the last place to find accurate information.
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        |  DJINN leukoplast
 Hellstorm Inc
 League of Infamy
 
 378
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.04.22 03:25:00 -
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 Sloth9230 wrote:Cosgar wrote:To my understanding it's only purchased/injected skillbooks, assets being removed from the game and (yet to be specified) AUR items. Stuff unavailable from the marked like limited edition and officer gear should be safe. Quote:As we started re-aligning the progression tree we realized that trying to map the new skills, bonuses and requirements to your existing items was not only complicated on the technical side, but also likely unfair to you, in that you may have committed to a certain play style, and with the new layout and skills you may find yourself regretting some of your prior choices. We have thus decided that it is far better to re-spec not only the skills but items as well. It says "removed from your inventory", not just items that get cut from the game. Why would they force us to keep 200+ geks if we don't want to skill into ARs again? They're giving us back our ISK so that we don't regret having purchased items that might no longer fit our playstyles. 
 It makes sense they would refund ISK of items we purchased, which is fine I can just re-purchase if needed. But hopefully CCP doesn't lump salvage into that category as well. If anything, they should refund/replenish any salvage that was used.
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