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Threshner Norack Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:38:00 - [1] - Quote It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. Is there anything special about this gun i should know? It could be i'm getting headshot and my life is somehow going from full armor to zero. I just don't understand how that gun is the only thing that can kill me so fast.
Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2192	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:40:00 - [2] - Quote every time the weapon generates tears it gets a 5% damage bonus, I just released an IMP ancient secret
ReGnUM Public Relations Imperfects Public Relations 147	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:40:00 - [3] - Quote Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. Is there anything special about this gun i should know? It could be i'm getting headshot and my life is somehow going from full armor to zero. I just don't understand how that gun is the only thing that can kill me so fast. I have seen you play dude. Its not the gun its you.
Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 37	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:40:00 - [4] - Quote First off... how much is "full armor"? This is very important. Are we talking scout full armor or heavy full armor.... or what?
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 312	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:41:00 - [5] - Quote It's cost effective for people who have skilled AR proficiency for the damage bonus. If you think the Gek hurts wait till someone uses a Duvolle, Balacs or Krins on you.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative 180	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:42:00 - [6] - Quote Yani Nabari wrote: First off... how much is "full armor"? This is very important. Are we talking scout full armor or heavy full armor.... or what? Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy.
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 104	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:42:00 - [7] - Quote It takes almost a full clip to kill a heavy for an non-damaged mod gek to kill a heavy with hipfire with random headshots, if you make them miss with strafing they will have to reload or switch to sidearm to kill you (yes heavies do have some bullet dodging abilities, especially the type-2 varients). if your standing still or crouching when fighting you are probly getting headshotted with the rail up, which would explain your hp melting away. Rule #1 in dust: Never stand still (even if your a heavy)
Threshner Norack Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:43:00 - [8] - Quote ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. Is there anything special about this gun i should know? It could be i'm getting headshot and my life is somehow going from full armor to zero. I just don't understand how that gun is the only thing that can kill me so fast. I have seen you play dude. Its not the gun its you. Is it? Mind telling me what suit i wear 90% of the time i place this game? Also i only have only had 1 or 2 game where i have not had a positive K/D as a heavy, which in ambush is actually matters.
Halador Osiris Dead Six Initiative 180	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:44:00 - [9] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: It takes almost a full clip to kill a heavy for an non-damaged mod gek to kill a heavy, if you make them miss with strafing (yes heavies do have some bullet dodging abilities, especially the type-2 varients). if your standing still or crouching when fighting you are probly getting headshotted with the rail up, which would explain your hp melting away. Rule #1 in dust: Never stand still (even if your a heavy) I've been running a type-II forever. Yesterday I bought a Type-I. I felt like a snail.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 158	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:53:00 - [10] - Quote Threshner Norack wrote: ReGnUM Public Relations wrote: Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. Is there anything special about this gun i should know? It could be i'm getting headshot and my life is somehow going from full armor to zero. I just don't understand how that gun is the only thing that can kill me so fast. I have seen you play dude. Its not the gun its you. Is it? Mind telling me what suit i wear 90% of the time i place this game? Also i only have only had 1 or 2 game where i have not had a positive K/D as a heavy, which in ambush is actually matters. Its not the gun, its the guy using it coupled to your inability to properly aim the HMG, or knowledge of when its not the right range for you to engage. Many Heavies fall into the range trap, your bullets just tickle at a certain range, AR's on the other hand chew your face off.

Altina McAlterson Not Guilty EoN. 474	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:53:00 - [11] - Quote It's not the gun, it's the player using it. The GEK is an affordable gun with reasonable fitting requirements and it goes very nicely on an advanced suit. My point is you're getting shot at by all kinds of things but the players with the skill to actually hit you are probably going to be using a GEK.
Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 160	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:56:00 - [12] - Quote Because the gek and the AR in general requires no skill to use. Just hold the trigger and fire a line of death at your targets head.
Threshner Norack Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.04.19 15:59:00 - [13] - Quote It's my fault really for attempting to play the heavy before May 6th just to test it out. With no specialization sp in much heavy oriented stuff and my low end gear it makes sense why im not the best. As a heavy i always tend to try to ambush people in buildings and stuff where it's almost impossibly to miss with a HMG. Seems like when the patch hits i should really just pump all my points in to my light weapon load outs.
Rei Shepard Spectre II 159	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:00:00 - [14] - Quote Green Living wrote: Because the gek and the AR in general requires no skill to use. Just hold the trigger and fire a line of death at your targets head. /cough Thats actually the Laser Rifle you are talking about
Threshner Norack Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:01:00 - [15] - Quote Rei Shepard wrote: Green Living wrote: Because the gek and the AR in general requires no skill to use. Just hold the trigger and fire a line of death at your targets head. /cough Thats actually the Laser Rifle you are talking about Tested this gun out last night and can agree with this -.-.
Green Living Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 162	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:04:00 - [16] - Quote Yeah, both the AR and Laser require zero skill to use.
Yani Nabari One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 38	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:11:00 - [17] - Quote Halador Osiris wrote: Yani Nabari wrote: First off... how much is "full armor"? This is very important. Are we talking scout full armor or heavy full armor.... or what? Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. And I've yet to hear a number....
Threshner Norack Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 10	Posted - 2013.04.19 16:16:00 - [18] - Quote Yani Nabari wrote: Halador Osiris wrote: Yani Nabari wrote: First off... how much is "full armor"? This is very important. Are we talking scout full armor or heavy full armor.... or what? Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. And I've yet to hear a number.... 100% heavy
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 154	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:25:00 - [19] - Quote heavies are easy to hit is what it comes down to.......
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:25:00 - [20] - Quote Threshner Norack wrote: It seems to be the only guns that completely melts my armor away as a heavy. Is there anything special about this gun i should know? It could be i'm getting headshot and my life is somehow going from full armor to zero. I just don't understand how that gun is the only thing that can kill me so fast. I tried using it and had better results with the Exile. As such, I've deleted all my assault suits, and have dedicated my Logi suits to helping the team in various ways, with the Exile in the weapon slot instead of the GEK. It simply isn't worth the ISK or the SP to me. I've even tried it with two complex damage mods and the Exile was still right up there performance wise. I could be missing out on the extra damage AR proficiency gives you, but it's more fun to watch my enemies' corpses fly after getting hit with my forge gun than saying "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em."

Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3554	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:27:00 - [21] - Quote Weaponry Bonus to damage is getting removed next build so hopefully it wont feel as bad.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:27:00 - [22] - Quote Deluxe Edition wrote: It takes almost a full clip to kill a heavy for an non-damaged mod gek to kill a heavy with hipfire with random headshots, if you make them miss with strafing they will have to reload or switch to sidearm to kill you (yes heavies do have some bullet dodging abilities, especially the type-2 varients). if your standing still or crouching when fighting you are probly getting headshotted with the rail up, which would explain your hp melting away. Rule #1 in dust: Never stand still (even if your a heavy) LOL There's a problem when militia makes a joke of almost 1000 HP. The GEK doesn't even need to be thought of.
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2013.04.19 17:27:00 - [23] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Weaponry Bonus to damage is getting removed next build so hopefully it wont feel as bad. That's been confirmed? Is it for one weapon style or all?
ca ronic Moffit Bros 4	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:25:00 - [24] - Quote Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: It's cost effective for people who have skilled AR proficiency for the damage bonus. If you think the Gek hurts wait till someone uses a Duvolle, Balacs or Krins on you. Thats what I was thinking, gek is old news. Most games now I find a couple of opposing players doing real damage with duvolles. But some of the best AR's I encounter are still sticking with the exhile.
Altina McAlterson Not Guilty EoN. 475	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:44:00 - [25] - Quote ca ronic wrote: Iskandar Zul Karnain wrote: It's cost effective for people who have skilled AR proficiency for the damage bonus. If you think the Gek hurts wait till someone uses a Duvolle, Balacs or Krins on you. Thats what I was thinking, gek is old news. Most games now I find a couple of opposing players doing real damage with duvolles. But some of the best AR's I encounter are still sticking with the exhile. Lower recoil is why you see so many Exiles. Militia is even lower but that smaller clip can be a pain sometimes.
DeadlyAztec11 One-Armed Bandits Atrocitas 64	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:50:00 - [26] - Quote Man I got the GEK, though, I prefer the MAR lol... If only it required less CPU... Well, that is what keeps it balanced I guess
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 436	Posted - 2013.04.19 19:50:00 - [27] - Quote I still think its the player not the gun. Anyone who has an exile is a closed beta vet, or paid money for it. Odds are they have more skill and it makes the gun seem more dangerous. Same with the gek on an adv suit it is a lot smarter to run a gek since it frees up your modules. Most people running duvolles on advanced suits are trying to make up for something.
Selinate deux Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 48	Posted - 2013.04.19 21:10:00 - [28] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: I still think its the player not the gun. Anyone who has an exile is a closed beta vet, or paid money for it. Odds are they have more skill and it makes the gun seem more dangerous. Same with the gek on an adv suit it is a lot smarter to run a gek since it frees up your modules. Most people running duvolles on advanced suits are trying to make up for something. These are the guns that can be insanely overpowered. Had one guy that could just tag me a few times with a few spurts and I'd be dead. I guess he had insane SP devoted to assault rifles and damage, but FFS, that weapon was WAY too overpowered. And no, I wasn't running around in militia gear at the time or basic gear.
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 63	Posted - 2013.04.19 21:29:00 - [29] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: Anyone who has an exile is a closed beta vet, or paid money for it. I think the state protectorate dropsuit comes with an exile or it might be the FDU one, can't remember which; but I know it's one of them that has the exile pre-fitted.


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