DUST Search - HOW TO HELP BEGINNER PLAYERS AND SMALLER CORPS STAY IN DUST 514 THROUGH PC

Mortedeamor wrote:

I HAVE POSTED THIS IN REDDIT AMA I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO HELP NEWER PLAYERS IF YOU ARE A NEWER PLAYER AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ONE UP IT IN THE REDDIT AMA

"something else comes to my mind here...recently i created an alt just to exp what the new comers were experiencing when going against us proto players ...and it is horrific ...i have a suggestion what if you took the standard pub ambush ...and after selecting to deploy it opened an alt menu tab with the tiers 1-5 I II III IV V and once selected you would be put into an ambush where the suits and vehichle tier cap is set for example ambush tier I could support bpo's militia gear and tier one items ...and ambush V you could call whatever you wanted ....you could then scale the potential isk gain to the tier ...and someone could still run in ambush V in bpo suits ...and potentially make good great money with zero to little loss...but the could also be repeatedly massacred and waste their time. even if pc locks out some people they would still have a controllable battle type where they could grind and build up"

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Mortedeamor Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 4	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:41:00 - [1] - Quote I HAVE POSTED THIS IN REDDIT AMA I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO HELP NEWER PLAYERS IF YOU ARE A NEWER PLAYER AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ONE UP IT IN THE REDDIT AMA "something else comes to my mind here...recently i created an alt just to exp what the new comers were experiencing when going against us proto players ...and it is horrific ...i have a suggestion what if you took the standard pub ambush ...and after selecting to deploy it opened an alt menu tab with the tiers 1-5 I II III IV V and once selected you would be put into an ambush where the suits and vehichle tier cap is set for example ambush tier I could support bpo's militia gear and tier one items ...and ambush V you could call whatever you wanted ....you could then scale the potential isk gain to the tier ...and someone could still run in ambush V in bpo suits ...and potentially make good great money with zero to little loss...but the could also be repeatedly massacred and waste their time. even if pc locks out some people they would still have a controllable battle type where they could grind and build up"
Blondie Roads Imperfects Negative-Feedback 14	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:47:00 - [2] - Quote Splitting the communitee into fifths, sounds like a bad idea.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 312	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:49:00 - [3] - Quote All my nope.
Mortedeamor Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 6	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:50:00 - [4] - Quote jus pub ambush
Mortedeamor Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 6	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:53:00 - [5] - Quote it gives people who could not possible stand a chance a battle option where they only go against people using equivilant lvl items if not skills u know damn well a blueberries assault type 2 is nothing compared to one of our with all our core skills maxed and it makes it allot harder for the pros which i don't mind at all
Jastad Eliters 4	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote Great Idea, i personally think "skill cap" works better than Equip cap
IceStormers Destruction Initiative Enterprise 2	Posted - 2013.04.18 19:57:00 - [7] - Quote i agree and posted something similar here was my suggestion IceStormers wrote: isk is what should separate players at the higher end skillpoints however should not matter that much after say 6 months of hitting your weekly cap if spent well additional skill points after that should be more about slight improvements to that same build upto say 1 year at that point additional should be all about variation or being able to use the next level of Tech (this brings isk back into play) I expect to be playing with the new players to earn isk, however i also expect to be forced to use cheap / free fits with a slight edge due to skill points Would be nice to see a cap on equipment coming in to each right based on the system Current example 1.0 - 0.7 systems - upto standard level equipment 0.6 - 0.5 Systems - upto advanced level equipment 0.4 - 0.1 Systems - upto proto level equipment 0.0 systems anything goes We should be able to choose where we are going to fight isk will ofc increase as you move into other areas, but you know what your getting into
Sloth9230 Reaper Galactic 921	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:02:00 - [8] - Quote F "matchmaking", this is what we need.
Marston VC SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 150	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:36:00 - [9] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: I HAVE POSTED THIS IN REDDIT AMA I BELIEVE THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO HELP NEWER PLAYERS IF YOU ARE A NEWER PLAYER AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ONE UP IT IN THE REDDIT AMA "something else comes to my mind here...recently i created an alt just to exp what the new comers were experiencing when going against us proto players ...and it is horrific ...i have a suggestion what if you took the standard pub ambush ...and after selecting to deploy it opened an alt menu tab with the tiers 1-5 I II III IV V and once selected you would be put into an ambush where the suits and vehichle tier cap is set for example ambush tier I could support bpo's militia gear and tier one items ...and ambush V you could call whatever you wanted ....you could then scale the potential isk gain to the tier ...and someone could still run in ambush V in bpo suits ...and potentially make good great money with zero to little loss...but the could also be repeatedly massacred and waste their time. even if pc locks out some people they would still have a controllable battle type where they could grind and build up" For random matches like this CCP said that there attempting to balance out who you go into matches with. In other words there trying to make it so that you go into matches with people of a similar skill level to you. I think they already deployed this in the same patch that 'fixed' the "spawn near enemies in the beginning" thing but considering how small the player base is right now its probably hard to tell. But hey! that's just what I thought I heard so I could be wrong, and besides that a 5 tier devide like this doesn't sound like a good idea to me anyway. The whole point of skilling up into a suit is so that you have an advantage over people who don't have that suit. THATS the ENTIRE reason why someone would want to level up at all. SO WHY would I want a system that puts me into matches with people using equal gear to me??? whats the point of leveling up at all if I can safely fight people at the militia level the same way i'd fight someone at the standard, advanced, or proto level? If this system were to come into play at all it should be that people have the option to play in a "militia gear only" type of match, and all the other tier options just don't exist. OR just give new members a 10 day "newbie pass" that lets you only play against new members if you choose ( I believe COD 5 had something like that in it..... like a game mode only available to people under a certain level).
knight of 6 ZionTCD Legacy Rising 126	Posted - 2013.04.18 20:46:00 - [10] - Quote I LIKE CAPS LOCK TOO. sorta meh on the idea, defeats the purpose of buying good gear. a better mix of players would be nice though (instead of out right equip capping)

KalOfTheRathi Talon Strike Force LTD 341	Posted - 2013.04.18 21:06:00 - [11] - Quote You could work harder to get your ideas to be less interesting but I have no idea how. Internet Screaming Key is just plain bad. Trying to push multiple Reddit (really, reddit?) threads here on the Dust Forums is lame. The formatting makes it look like you have no idea how to actually type (unless YOU ARE SCREAMING!). Filters are coming in the New Battle Finder. Read the Weekly Updates and Dev Blogs. I recently put a new char together and it is doing quite well. Unless you were trying to sabotage the entire event I have no idea what you are going on about. K/DR of 1.83, 1.38M ISK in the bank and not losing money in a single match. That is after only 16 matches so what exactly were you doing wrong? Besides everything, I mean.


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