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BASSMEANT
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:34:00 -
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gettin rid of prereqs already?
what next? get rid of all the skills and just let anyone use whatever?
or is it gonna be "all suits can now use all weapons"?
that call of duty gravity is too strong for you guys to resist, huh?
gotta keep adding more water.
Peace
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Django Quik
R.I.f.t
344
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:41:00 -
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They didn't say no pre-reqs; they said no multiple pre-reqs. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
246
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:45:00 -
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But they have also split up skills between infantry and vehicles |
Ten-Sidhe
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
458
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:46:00 -
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Skills will still have prereqs.
The skill tree if drawn out will no longer have branches merge, once split a branch will stay split.
for example this would be allowed by new rules of tree
b needs a, c and d need b, e needs c, f needs d
This would not
c needs a, d needs c and b, e needs b, f needs e and d
Both would form a tree with prereqs, one has merging branches and the other doesn't.
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
3487
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Posted - 2013.04.17 11:47:00 -
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Think less pyramid and more tree like. One skill unlocks many. Many skills do not unlock one. How high and branch of the tree you must climb is the new question. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2547
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Posted - 2013.04.17 13:28:00 -
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Did you even look at the sample pic that SHOWS how this new system is going to work?
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8113/8651621860_d3a751d750_c.jpg
Notice how this shows "Weaponry" as at least an indirect prerequisite for every other skill shown.
Explosives, Handheld weapon upgrades, and "Operation" skills for Heavy, Light and Sidearm weapons. Then it shows that from Heavy Weapon Operations, there's another layer, which has Forge Gun Operation and Heavy Machinegun Operation.
To reach HMG Operation, you need to have trained Heavy Weapon Operation. To do that, you need the relevant level of Weaponry. But Weaponry isn't going to be listed as a direct prerequisite for HMG Operation like it was in previous builds.
When playing EVE Online, many skills require not only the previous tier of skill and the one before it, but sometimes another skill that's part of another "tree" - thus breaking the way a "tree" diagram like the one used in DUST. CCP have realised that, while this works for EVE, it isn't going to work in a console FPS, and they have to find another way. This looks like it. |
Val'herik Dorn
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
420
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Posted - 2013.04.17 14:49:00 -
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Coming from you this is almost comical...
You forum warrior well but in game you might as well be just another bluedot...
I think this will help dust because hey not evetyone plays eve or can micromanage like those of us that do play eve.
If it help people why not. Prerequisites are still there but you won't have to train insane amounts of skills to get to what you want.
This is not eve having your prerequisites spread through 4 different catagories won't work. Maybe if the ui were like EVES where you can open up 5 windows and compare them. But its not. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1291
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:10:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:gettin rid of prereqs already?
what next? get rid of all the skills and just let anyone use whatever?
or is it gonna be "all suits can now use all weapons"?
that call of duty gravity is too strong for you guys to resist, huh?
gotta keep adding more water.
Peace
B
They're getting rid of the triple and quadruple nested pre-reqs that EVE is infamous for. This will make it so you know exactly what you have to train to unlock the next skill, which is also assisted by that new training interface.
They even kept the EVE style on if you prefer that. There's literally no reason to complain. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2609
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:11:00 -
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Did you know that the sky is falling? |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2013.04.17 15:30:00 -
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yeah, you should probably re read whatever you read. |
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Warpfiend Thanos
Destruction Initiative Enterprise
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Posted - 2013.04.17 17:41:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:gettin rid of prereqs already?
what next? get rid of all the skills and just let anyone use whatever?
or is it gonna be "all suits can now use all weapons"?
that call of duty gravity is too strong for you guys to resist, huh?
gotta keep adding more water.
Peace
B
You are the king of reductio ad absurdum! Do you read full sentences or is your reading comprehension as poor as your capitalization? I'm beginning to think your handle isn't a play on words but just how you think it's spelled.  |
Baal Roo
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1169
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:10:00 -
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They are simply making the skill tree more like every other RPG skill tree we've ever seen.
Obfuscation for the sake of obfuscation is pointless. |
Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
9
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Posted - 2013.04.17 20:41:00 -
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I propose we now institute bacon law upon this thread. |
BursegSardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
95
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Posted - 2013.04.17 21:03:00 -
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Oh no, Dust is dying!!!!
In all seriousness, this skill breakup makes a lot more sense. Why repeat some of the annoying mistakes they are currently trying to remove in EVE? |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
517
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:50:00 -
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This basement clown clearly is too cool to fully read what the new system will be like.
-Peace M |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
974
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:56:00 -
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yes, lets all complain about something we asked for... |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
478
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:58:00 -
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i want my scout suit to tripple wield a bunch of shotguns. |
mikegunnz
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz
Noir. Mercenary Group
517
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Posted - 2013.04.17 22:59:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:i want my scout suit to tripple wield a bunch of shotguns.
This sounds like a good idea.
Peace
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