DUST Search - Rumour Mill: Goonswarm/Imperfects Relationship Deteriorates

Abu Stij wrote:

Dumpsterham wrote:

Goonswarm Federation has no DUST interests at all at the moment. Until there is some null sec connection between DUST and EVE, there is no reason to bother having anything to do with DUST. To somehow imply that Goonswarm Federation is hiring some dumb mercenary corp for a game we have no interest in, is insane.

But how will he get page views for his super cool DUST Fan Blog?

Let me lay some truth on you people.

Take note kiddies, I'm actually a journalist in the real world.

The level of "journalism" displayed by the OP is similar to that of the work published by the fine folks over at EVE News 24. Lack of a credible source, nor providing any supporting details is an amateurish move by a would be journalist. If you don't have solid, credible sources to cite, you're most likely just making it up and running your mouth because you want the attention you never got as a child.

In the future, if you want to comment on Goonswarm interests or even actions within New Eden, especially related to DUST 514, just contact our corp CEO or reach out to the diplos for the GSF, which if you note we're not even a part of at the moment.

It's like you didn't even bother doing research.

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Mithridates VI DUST 411 844	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:42:00 - [1] - Quote This is a developing story and updates will be made as they become available. I'm not going to bother with a link to my site because LOLPAGEVIEWS and it's easier to just read the limited info here. As difficult as it is to determine or divine the machinations and the politics of factions such as the Imperfects or the Goonswarm Federation, which can appear to the outsider as rather mercurial bands of mercenaries, deliberately creating walls of disinformation around themselves, present indications from sources claiming to be within the organisations are that the oft-alluded to but never confirmed relationship between these organisations may have been broken off. Among similar tips, DUST 411 today received an email from an unknown source claiming that GÇ£Imps have no sugar **** to suckle nowGÇ¥ because they have allegedly been fired by Goonswarm. On contacting ranking members of these organisations, replies have been received ranging from refusal to comment on details unless those details require reply (having already been leaked) or denial of authority to comment on the matter, while acknowledging the matterGÇÖs existence, to total denial of a current or historical relationship between the factions. Requests for press statement remain open and this post will be updated if and when those statements are made.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1242	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:48:00 - [2] - Quote Since when did they have anything to do with eachother? From what I understand, goonswarm already has official ties in dust, while the imperfects just work for the highest bidder.
X---------------------X Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 18	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:50:00 - [3] - Quote Well that is good to hear. At least we know the goons won't be running dust then without the Imperfects.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 912	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:52:00 - [4] - Quote X---------------------X wrote: Well that is good to hear. At least we know the goons won't be running dust then without the Imperfects. Even if it was true, there are other options on the field. Imp's cant fight everyone at the same time for example and couldn't do well against EU timers for that matter either. Non the less, this threads about rumours, which are banned under the forum rules, no? ;)
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 136	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:54:00 - [5] - Quote Yes they are clearly jealous of each other much hatred between these 2 corps. If you war one you gotta war guys from both corps... these are clearly the actions of relationship deteriorating.
Geth Massredux ZionTCD Legacy Rising 142	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:55:00 - [6] - Quote INB4IMPS and DUSTERSBLOG
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3449	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:55:00 - [7] - Quote Me and my friends have nothing to do with this. Whistles Innocently
Mithridates VI DUST 411 845	Posted - 2013.04.16 01:58:00 - [8] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Non the less, this threads about rumours, which are banned under the forum rules, no? ;) Quote: Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual solid information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. The solid information being provided is contact with affected parties who acknowledge the situation without defining it. The thread is designed to inform and to encourage constructive discussion.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 677	Posted - 2013.04.16 02:00:00 - [9] - Quote Rumor mongering is not allowed. Thread locked.


CCP Eterne C C P C C P Alliance 1396	Posted - 2013.04.18 17:10:00 - [10] - Quote Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room.


Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation 224	Posted - 2013.04.18 18:34:00 - [11] - Quote So who spilled the milk?
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.19 00:16:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. You probably should unban the guy if your okaying the thread...
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 435	Posted - 2013.04.19 00:56:00 - [13] - Quote SoTa of PoP wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. You probably should unban the guy if your okaying the thread... Mith was banned? Looks like you got the hammer as well?
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 5	Posted - 2013.04.19 01:16:00 - [14] - Quote Deadeyes Anterie wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. You probably should unban the guy if your okaying the thread... Mith was banned? Looks like you got the hammer as well? Everyone is banned lol Everyone's in IRC just counting the timer till unban. Bittervet is taking on a whole new meaning in there lol
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2013.04.19 03:41:00 - [15] - Quote This thread is being handled poorly by GM's - the OP is STILL banned without word yet and my post inquiring they should unban him for an offense that no longer holds ground gets deleted. You don't need to respond Frame - delete this too - but it's improper for a person in your position and other GM staff to wrongly ban someone and ignore it then delete evidence of it to the community
Geth Massredux ZionTCD 148	Posted - 2013.04.19 03:43:00 - [16] - Quote SoTa of PoP wrote: This thread is being handled poorly by GM's - the OP is STILL banned without word yet and my post inquiring they should unban him for an offense that no longer holds ground gets deleted. You don't need to respond Frame - delete this too - but it's improper for a person in your position and other GM staff to wrongly ban someone and ignore it then delete evidence of it to the community Hmm I wonder if you are the original Sota pop....
SoTa of PoP Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 6	Posted - 2013.04.19 03:50:00 - [17] - Quote Geth Massredux wrote: SoTa of PoP wrote: This thread is being handled poorly by GM's - the OP is STILL banned without word yet and my post inquiring they should unban him for an offense that no longer holds ground gets deleted. You don't need to respond Frame - delete this too - but it's improper for a person in your position and other GM staff to wrongly ban someone and ignore it then delete evidence of it to the community Hmm I wonder if you are the original Sota pop.... Nope. Just a concerned lover of Dust514 who wants Mith to stop bittervetting on IRC :3
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 276	Posted - 2013.04.19 04:27:00 - [18] - Quote I will not trust this source until I see direct quote and evidence of this "news". If someone can provide that then I will believe - otherwise DUST 411 is becoming another dusters blog - or worse :D
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 24	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:08:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Me and my friends have nothing to do with this. Whistles Innocently i call BS
Lord-of-the-Dreadfort The Lions Guard 24	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:09:00 - [20] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. lol, did mithridates poke you over it?

Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 277	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:28:00 - [21] - Quote Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. lol, did mithridates poke you over it? He obviously sent petition but I am totally not sure why Eterne unlocked. I can make a blog and say "I have evidence, but I can't show you those, but trust me, it is true" and post it all over the place :D I don't buy that. But thanks for a laugh at this thread while I am at work :) I needed that.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1450	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:32:00 - [22] - Quote What is this thread for?
Sylvana Nightwind Expert Intervention Caldari State 277	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:36:00 - [23] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: What is this thread for? For some kind of news between Imperfects and Goons not liking each other by a guy that is not in either of those corps. He haz evidence, though. Trust him.
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1457	Posted - 2013.04.19 05:53:00 - [24] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: What is this thread for? For some kind of news between Imperfects and Goons not liking each other by a guy that is not in either of those corps. He haz evidence, though. Trust him. Hm we shall see
Deadeyes Anterie Ill Omens EoN. 435	Posted - 2013.04.19 08:40:00 - [25] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: Lord-of-the-Dreadfort wrote: CCP Eterne wrote: Unlocking this after review and moving it to the War Room. lol, did mithridates poke you over it? He obviously sent petition but I am totally not sure why Eterne unlocked. I can make a blog and say "I have evidence, but I can't show you those, but trust me, it is true" and post it all over the place :D I don't buy that. But thanks for a laugh at this thread while I am at work :) I needed that. I suspect he verified his claim in the petetion. I don't see how else they could upgrade this thread from rumor/locked to open again. Then again sometimes CCP tends to be a bit random so who knows.
Mithridates VI DUST 411 856	Posted - 2013.04.19 11:31:00 - [26] - Quote Sylvana Nightwind wrote: I will not trust this source until I see direct quote and evidence of this "news". If someone can provide that then I will believe - otherwise DUST 411 is becoming another dusters blog - or worse :D Hi Sylvana! Sorry I didn't get to this earlier, I was unable to post and now I'm going to give you this horrible tl;dr. I'll be posting a full statement of intent to talk about my position when it comes to providing references for content I publish but for now I'd like to clarify that "Rumour Mill:" as a heading was intended to communicate that this isn't a typical news article. IIt was poor choice of heading and I'm going to work on something which better indicates that I'm aiming to provide a brief hint at political happenings. Rather, I had hoped it was transparently lacking in specific details and was posted as the beginning of a conversation. Obviously that didn't work very well. It was supposed to be a teaser and not in any way indicative of the usual quality of a DUST 411 article. The conversations which I personally used to substantiate the claims cannot be shared for a number of reasons, including the protection of sources (one of the first things a security conscious corp should do is find a way to provide subtly different data to its members to identify leaks when that data is quoted verbatim by people who shouldn't have it) and the fact that the corporations in question hadn't been given enough time to reply at the time of my publishing the brief summary of the situation. I can confirm that as part of the appeal of this thread's lock, CCP were provided with evidence substantiating the claims made here, though whether this impacted their decision to unlock it I cannot say. I'm not going to go into your implications that I made presented the topic as "I have evidence just trust me" or deal with what seems like a suggestion that people without affiliation with particular corporation cannot comment on the goings on within those corporations... except to say that in some cases "I have evidence just trust me" is going to be the way stories are published are my future credibility will be judged on the veracity of those stories. I'm committed to assuring myself that a story is based in reality before I publish it. Where I can do so, I'll convince the audience of this. Where I cannot, people can do as they please with the information provided. You are free to reject it, though I personally find the tone of your objection somewhat unwarranted.
JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 332	Posted - 2013.04.19 11:36:00 - [27] - Quote Forget the haters. You are doing good work keeping things changed up from the normal flames and tears. +1.
Dumpsterham Immobile Infantry 1	Posted - 2013.04.19 23:42:00 - [28] - Quote Goonswarm Federation has no DUST interests at all at the moment. Until there is some null sec connection between DUST and EVE, there is no reason to bother having anything to do with DUST. To somehow imply that Goonswarm Federation is hiring some dumb mercenary corp for a game we have no interest in, is insane.
Tien TheSecond Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 325	Posted - 2013.04.19 23:48:00 - [29] - Quote Dumpsterham wrote: Goonswarm Federation has no DUST interests at all at the moment. Until there is some null sec connection between DUST and EVE, there is no reason to bother having anything to do with DUST. To somehow imply that Goonswarm Federation is hiring some dumb mercenary corp for a game we have no interest in, is insane. Well said. There are alliances that have top down integration with Dust 514, however comments made during closed beta indicate that CONDI is playing t he wait and see game.
Abu Stij Immobile Infantry 0	Posted - 2013.04.22 14:48:00 - [30] - Quote Dumpsterham wrote: Goonswarm Federation has no DUST interests at all at the moment. Until there is some null sec connection between DUST and EVE, there is no reason to bother having anything to do with DUST. To somehow imply that Goonswarm Federation is hiring some dumb mercenary corp for a game we have no interest in, is insane. But how will he get page views for his super cool DUST Fan Blog? Let me lay some truth on you people. Take note kiddies, I'm actually a journalist in the real world. The level of "journalism" displayed by the OP is similar to that of the work published by the fine folks over at EVE News 24. Lack of a credible source, nor providing any supporting details is an amateurish move by a would be journalist. If you don't have solid, credible sources to cite, you're most likely just making it up and running your mouth because you want the attention you never got as a child. In the future, if you want to comment on Goonswarm interests or even actions within New Eden, especially related to DUST 514, just contact our corp CEO or reach out to the diplos for the GSF, which if you note we're not even a part of at the moment. It's like you didn't even bother doing research.

JL3Eleven Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 354	Posted - 2013.04.22 15:14:00 - [31] - Quote Abu Stij wrote: Dumpsterham wrote: Goonswarm Federation has no DUST interests at all at the moment. Until there is some null sec connection between DUST and EVE, there is no reason to bother having anything to do with DUST. To somehow imply that Goonswarm Federation is hiring some dumb mercenary corp for a game we have no interest in, is insane. But how will he get page views for his super cool DUST Fan Blog? Let me lay some truth on you people. Take note kiddies, I'm actually a journalist in the real world. The level of "journalism" displayed by the OP is similar to that of the work published by the fine folks over at EVE News 24. Lack of a credible source, nor providing any supporting details is an amateurish move by a would be journalist. If you don't have solid, credible sources to cite, you're most likely just making it up and running your mouth because you want the attention you never got as a child. In the future, if you want to comment on Goonswarm interests or even actions within New Eden, especially related to DUST 514, just contact our corp CEO or reach out to the diplos for the GSF, which if you note we're not even a part of at the moment. It's like you didn't even bother doing research. He's not getting paid and it's better to read than the QQ and nerf threads. So unless you are willing to step up to the plate please QQ in the corner thanks.
Mithridates VI DUST 411 949	Posted - 2013.04.23 22:54:00 - [32] - Quote Abu Stij wrote: Some rubbish about page views I didn't link my site, yo. I even said I wasn't doing so. I did this because holding content hostage in return for page views is sleazy. For someone who claims to be a journo, you didn't really do much research to support that suggestion... even when the information was spoonfed to you. Abu Stij wrote: Take note kiddies, I'm actually a journalist in the real world. The level of "journalism" displayed by the OP is similar to that of the work published by the fine folks over at EVE News 24. Lack of a credible source, nor providing any supporting details is an amateurish move by a would be journalist. If you don't have solid, credible sources to cite, you're most likely just making it up and running your mouth because you want the attention you never got as a child. In the future, if you want to comment on Goonswarm interests or even actions within New Eden, especially related to DUST 514, just contact our corp CEO or reach out to the diplos for the GSF, which if you note we're not even a part of at the moment. It's like you didn't even bother doing research. Oh, dear. I made the nature of the post very clear with the subject "Rumour Mill" and the subsequent explanation of the politically speculative columnesque rather than articlesque nature of the post. I did contact Cerebral Wolf. He made it clear that only a very select group of people knew about this. He, understandably, asked how much I had been told so he could respond without revealing more than was already known. He said "I have a very short statement made but depending on what's been said depends on if i release it". He observed that the intel was reasonably good. I was referring to him in the article when I explained that "replies have been received ranging from refusal to comment on details unless those details require reply..." I prefer not to report directly on conversations with CWJ because I have a pro-Immobile-Infantry bias which is gradually being eroded away. EDIT: I'm interested in whether you talked to your CEO before commenting on this.
Cerebral Wolf Jr Immobile Infantry 917	Posted - 2013.04.23 23:22:00 - [33] - Quote Has this not been dropped yet?....
XxWarlordxX97 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 1526	Posted - 2013.04.23 23:23:00 - [34] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Has this not been dropped yet?.... No
Mithridates VI DUST 411 949	Posted - 2013.04.23 23:27:00 - [35] - Quote Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote: Has this not been dropped yet?.... That would be awesome. It's political entertainment guys, not a shocking expos+¬. This is the reason it fails to meet the standards for a shocking expos+¬. If you're in this thread looking for srs spaiwork, you've come to the wrong damn place.
Hundredx Nails Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2013.04.28 09:30:00 - [36] - Quote Its good to know that goons are still causing drama. beautiful!
XeroTheBigBoss Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 175	Posted - 2013.04.29 15:38:00 - [37] - Quote There is no drama. There wasn't even no link. It's just more smoke screen.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1046	Posted - 2013.04.29 18:33:00 - [38] - Quote XeroTheBigBoss wrote: There is no drama. There wasn't even no link. It's just more smoke screen. I agree with this guy and have no agenda whatsoever.
Bojo The Mighty Bojo's School of the Trades 989	Posted - 2013.04.29 18:36:00 - [39] - Quote BTW Mith, you're losing your touch, I've seen more gophers come out from underground if you know what I mean.
Mithridates VI IMPSwarm Negative-Feedback 1048	Posted - 2013.04.29 19:49:00 - [40] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: BTW Mith, you're losing your touch, I've seen more gophers come out from underground if you know what I mean. I'm afraid I don't :p



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