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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1043
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:40:00 -
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So, we will be earning skill points and ISK rewards for those matches, correct? ISK rewards will be through the roof man :). I remember earning $991K ISK after a match right before we went to Tranquility. You guys saw that PFBHz vs STB match, right? Imagine the rewards from that match.
Pub matches are going to be so weak in comparison.. |
Zekain Kade
BetaMax. CRONOS.
1201
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:43:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:So, we will be earning skill points and ISK rewards for those matches, correct? ISK rewards will be through the roof man :). I remember earning $991K ISK after a match right before we went to Tranquility. You guys saw that PFBHz vs STB match, right? Imagine the rewards from that match.
Pub matches are going to be so weak in comparison.. We will all still pub stomp regardless of the payout. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
150
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:44:00 -
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I'm hoping there's no reason to go back to pubs after PC starts up. Hopefully there's more ISK, SP, and better salvage when you're defending against good players. |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
463
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:46:00 -
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Double post Dubbs :P
My answer from your other thread:
Actually we won't have standard ISK payouts, but only biomass from clones killed/lost + loot. Standard ISK payout would be cool as well, but we won't have that as it is right now.
Let me dig up the post with FoxFour's answer...
Edit: Source https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=671423#post671423 |
Thor Odinson42
Red Star. EoN.
53
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:47:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:I'm hoping there's no reason to go back to pubs after PC starts up. Hopefully there's more ISK, SP, and better salvage when you're defending against good players.
It won't be a 24/7 deal unless you make it so with your timers.
Pubs will still be necessary to feed the addiction. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative
349
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:52:00 -
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I imagine faction warfare will have better payouts than pub matches. People will have more incentive to bring better gear, and I think the payouts there would be more similar to current pub matches. |
Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
1043
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:02:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Double post Dubbs :P My answer from your other thread: Actually we won't have standard ISK payouts, but only biomass from clones killed/lost + loot. Standard ISK payout would be cool as well, but we won't have that as it is right now. Let me dig up the post with FoxFour's answer... Edit: Source https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=671423#post671423
I meant to put it in this section but I read your link |
Bendtner92
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
463
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:07:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I imagine faction warfare will have better payouts than pub matches. People will have more incentive to bring better gear, and I think the payouts there would be more similar to current pub matches. Yeah, I guess FW battles will use the same payout system as in the pub matches, but I don't see that as enough to cover for your losses unless they at least double the ISK payouts. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
150
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I'm hoping there's no reason to go back to pubs after PC starts up. Hopefully there's more ISK, SP, and better salvage when you're defending against good players. It won't be a 24/7 deal unless you make it so with your timers. Pubs will still be necessary to feed the addiction. I'm hoping for 1-3 hours a day where I'm defending my districts and I make enough SP/ISK to move on
if not i'll start trolling the alliance seeing who needs an extra guy to come in and do some wetwork
i really hate pubs |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors O.M.N.I. Initiative
350
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:33:00 -
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Bendtner92 wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:I imagine faction warfare will have better payouts than pub matches. People will have more incentive to bring better gear, and I think the payouts there would be similar to current pub matches. Yeah, I guess FW battles will use the same payout system as in the pub matches, but I don't see that as enough to cover for your losses unless they at least double the ISK payouts.
Well the only reason people are so isk efficient in pub matches at the moment is because you are farming terrible blueberries. In FW you will likely have to be equally effective against harder players to make significantly more than you would against terrible players.
I could be wrong, but the only way FW matches would be on average a significantly better payout for everyone overall, is if the majority of matches ended as MCC destruction, and >50% of deaths were revived and didn't spend dropsuits. Then you would be netting a lot of WP, without the clone loss. I could be wrong on this though because it could be more modified based on how much is destroyed rather than just 'killed'.
Either way, you still should always have to be destroying a good amount more than what you are losing to make good isk. I'm wondering if the stakes will be higher in FW maps though because I believe it will be the winning team that will take away the salvage, which will help soften the effects of isk loss.
I anticipate that the FW blog that is supposed to come out in the near future will go into more detail about how FW will be more profitable. |
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Vaerana Myshtana
Bojo's School of the Trades
667
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:37:00 -
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Beren Hurin wrote:I imagine faction warfare will have better payouts than pub matches. People will have more incentive to bring better gear, and I think the payouts there would be more similar to current pub matches.
This is probably true. We are supposed to be seeing FW mercenary missions in Uprising. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1685
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:38:00 -
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You will be in the negative 80 mill or more depending on the number of districts you want to grab. Then depending on the sale of clones over the cost of defending the district with proto gear and Tanks, it will be sometime before your corp sees profit if your lucky to not go bankrupt. Merc Corps will see the highest % of risk/reward in PC |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
148
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:50:00 -
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So pubs are sticking around?
I figured they would get rid of them once FW came out. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1685
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Posted - 2013.04.09 17:52:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:So pubs are sticking around?
I figured they would get rid of them once FW came out.
There will still be pubs |
PITCH- BLACK
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:21:00 -
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Pubs will be for non corp players or players that are in npc corps. You have to be in a player corporation to be in planetary conquest. |
Shadowswipe
WarRavens
55
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:30:00 -
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PITCH- BLACK wrote:Pubs will be for non corp players or players that are in npc corps. You have to be in a player corporation to be in planetary conquest. Some people in EVE do some crazy organized things using the NPC corps. I expect some subsection of NPC corps to be out in force at some point. |
Zion Shad
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
1685
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Posted - 2013.04.09 18:34:00 -
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Shadowswipe wrote:PITCH- BLACK wrote:Pubs will be for non corp players or players that are in npc corps. You have to be in a player corporation to be in planetary conquest. Some people in EVE do some crazy organized things using the NPC corps. I expect some subsection of NPC corps to be out in force at some point.
If it serves a good function then I'd imagine so as well |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
2714
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Posted - 2013.04.10 00:42:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:I'm hoping there's no reason to go back to pubs after PC starts up. Hopefully there's more ISK, SP, and better salvage when you're defending against good players. It won't be a 24/7 deal unless you make it so with your timers. Pubs will still be necessary to feed the addiction.
FW will be where its at when ur not doin PC cuz the uncapped grps = full teams + higher payouts = $$$ |
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