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REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:46:00 -
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This is not a grenades are OP thread,but is it just me or does it seem silly that 20,000+ years into the future where we have laser weapons and localised wormholes that we still have to chuck our grenades. Wouldn't something like the wrist launcher from BLOPS 2 make more sense both in tech and be an elagent solution to the problems regarding grenades? Your thoughts? |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:46:00 -
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because its fun?
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HOMMANDO
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:47:00 -
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I'm more disappointed by futuristic tanks not having a backing up camera. |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:50:00 -
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why do we still use cars to get there?
why do we still fight on ground as infantry?
why why why why why
why not a win button |
REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:51:00 -
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Wouldn't launching them from your wrist and actually being to hit something reliably be more fun? |
Vyzion Eyri
The Legion Academy
ROFL BROS
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:52:00 -
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Because if we ask for grenade launchers that aren't mass drivers, next people will be wondering why we need to aim when we launch grenades from shoulder mounted cannons. Speaking of which, that is a good idea. Shoulder mounted weaponry. |
REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:53:00 -
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We use cars because they are more reliable than something that hovers we use infantry because we can't really die and we are smarter than robots |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:54:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:Because if we ask for grenade launchers that aren't mass drivers, next people will be wondering why we need to aim when we launch grenades from shoulder mounted cannons. Speaking of which, that is a good idea. Shoulder mounted weaponry.
ala Predator?
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aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
469
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:54:00 -
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What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:54:00 -
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somethings never change.. like a trigger those thing are old as h***. btw hand thrown grenades isn't new. |
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:56:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic.
to reach enemy behind cover?
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REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:56:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic.
You could still use it for non LOS firing you would just need to adjust for a high arc |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
470
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:58:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. to reach enemy behind cover?
What the basic function of a grenade?
Think about it again. |
Sylvana Nightwind
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
215
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Posted - 2013.04.09 09:59:00 -
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Why do dropships stay perfectly leveled if they only have back engines? |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:00:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. to reach enemy behind cover? What the basic function of a grenade? Think about it again.
to explode?
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REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:00:00 -
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a hand thrown explosive device providing area denial, effective AV, and non LOS usage. |
aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
470
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:02:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. to reach enemy behind cover? What the basic function of a grenade? Think about it again. to explode?
good.
we throw grenades because it's suppose to be thrown.
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:03:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. to reach enemy behind cover? What the basic function of a grenade? Think about it again. to explode? good. we throw grenades because it's suppose to be thrown.
and if they dont explode and reach the enemy behind cover its basically a STONE and you cant kill an armored soldier with a stone unles the stone is 1 tone but then you couldnt throw it
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REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:03:00 -
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Seriously tradition that is your excuse? then why do we have the Mass driver? |
REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:05:00 -
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and who is to say cover will be an issue Mass drivers rarely have a hard time with cover |
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aden slayer
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
470
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:06:00 -
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REMNANCY 1 wrote:Seriously tradition that is your excuse? then why do we have the Mass driver?
Because we needed a grenade launcher?
to deal with heavies?
poop? |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
45
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:07:00 -
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REMNANCY 1 wrote:and who is to say cover will be an issue Mass drivers rarely have a hard time with cover
then what is the point of this thread if you have mass driver?
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REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
5
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:08:00 -
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But this is bad because it would fit with the game better and would demand more skill? |
2-Ton Twenty-One
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
471
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:08:00 -
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because its a game and not real |
REMNANCY 1
Opus Arcana
Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:11:00 -
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because the wrist launcher would be adaptable to different grenade types and provide more generalised role than the MD without giving up a light weapon slot it would still arc still have a fuse but it would be wrist launched |
BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:11:00 -
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then stop playing every game that has grenades
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BlG MAMA
PLAYSTATION4
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:12:00 -
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then i want a ass thrown grenade with stinking gas for when i am followed by enemy , think about it as a personal chaff grenade
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2412
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Posted - 2013.04.09 10:17:00 -
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Which is better for rebounding shots around corners?
A hand-thrown grenade or an impact-detonated one fired from a launcher?
Also, thrown devices will always be useful and reliable for certain roles that launcher-type weapons can't reproduce. It's always - ALWAYS - going to be less practical to vary the power of a fired projectile than a thrown one. Obviously, in a videogame, this isn't simulated particularly well, but it's still a real-world consideration that won't be invalidated by technology. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:23:00 -
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the bigger disappointment is that you can throw grenades further away than SMGs optimal range |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
107
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:30:00 -
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what smg are you using mine hit people just fine at nade range |
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Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:42:00 -
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Yea honestly, tech can get to high tech to make the game playable. Basically just imagine the new Iron Man where he deploys the anti-tank missile and where he has the lock on thing just kill all those guys. That stuff is broke. |
Rei Shepard
Spectre II
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Posted - 2013.04.09 12:50:00 -
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Why do we Mercs still throw grenades ?
Its cheaper on the production.
Daedric Lothar wrote:Yea honestly, tech can get to high tech to make the game playable. Basically just imagine the new Iron Man where he deploys the anti-tank missile and where he has the lock on thing just kill all those guys. That stuff is broke.
I don't want to see the bill of ISK to buy an iron man suit...let alone it won't be able to withstand the impact from any of these weapons we are using, the iron man suit is getting damaged by well 200.000 less yer old advanced weapons.
But it sure is full of gadgets and gimmicks :) |
Yani Nabari
One-Armed Bandits
Atrocitas
27
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Posted - 2013.04.09 13:30:00 -
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I wanna know why we can't shoot someone's grenades and cause them to explode. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
94
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:09:00 -
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ladwar wrote:what smg are you using mine hit people just fine at nade range
optimal range != max range
you can throw nades out to 30m. the SMG will do almost zero damage at that range, not only because the SMGs optimal is 16m and max range is only 39m which will results in 60% less damage dealt at range of 30m but because the accuracy will make you miss most projectiles anyway, even when ADS |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:26:00 -
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BlG MAMA wrote:Vyzion Eyri wrote:Because if we ask for grenade launchers that aren't mass drivers, next people will be wondering why we need to aim when we launch grenades from shoulder mounted cannons. Speaking of which, that is a good idea. Shoulder mounted weaponry. ala Predator?
Mass Effect multiplayer has this  and its fun - when engaged I think it draws more power or drops your shields some and makes you move a bit slower.
That is PvE though. It could be an option on one of the suits in the future of Dust, that you have to skill into. |
Chris F2112
187.
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Posted - 2013.04.09 14:38:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Which is better for rebounding shots around corners?
A hand-thrown grenade or an impact-detonated one fired from a launcher?
Also, thrown devices will always be useful and reliable for certain roles that launcher-type weapons can't reproduce. It's always - ALWAYS - going to be less practical to vary the power of a fired projectile than a thrown one. Obviously, in a videogame, this isn't simulated particularly well, but it's still a real-world consideration that won't be invalidated by technology.
In a future where we can create clones and transfer our consciousness across these clones it doesn't seem a stretch to have a weapon that can adjust for whatever distance you are thinking you want to fire it. I mean, they already have targeting systems that target where a pilot is looking, you are telling me that they couldn't improve that in the future?
That said, I like throwing grenades. It's familiar. |
ARF 1049
The Phoenix Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:31:00 -
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aden slayer wrote:BlG MAMA wrote:aden slayer wrote:What's a grenade for?
Think about it with pure logic. to reach enemy behind cover? What the basic function of a grenade? Think about it again.
it is to breach areas and kill clusters of enemies also these grenades have specialized kill patterns where the frag hunts out people |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
1281
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:32:00 -
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Why are we even human? It would make more sense to use drones for everything.
First rule of Fun Mode: Do not talk about Fun Mode. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2404
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:37:00 -
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Why don't we just drop Doomsday weapons on every match?
I mean, come on. |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
150
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Posted - 2013.04.09 16:51:00 -
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as a baseball player for 15 years, i'll opt to throw my grenades and rely on my expert accuracy rather than some machine to shoot them from my wrist
plus I can arc them over walls and railings and cook them to perfection so it blows up before hitting the ground but just as it arrives at the target
you take take your wrist launcher, turn it sideways, and stick it straight up your ass OP |
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