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Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 428	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:42:00 - [1] - Quote In response to this: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67705&find=unread The AR is supposed to be the jack of all trades the master of none. It can do well in close to medium-long range. It shines in medium range, but it can still do something at the other ranges. An AR user won't kill an HMG at close range (Unless the heavy sucks ballz, in that case there is nothing wrong with it). An AR user won't outmatch a LR at medium-long range (for those who say it does, wait for the rest of the post) An AR user can't even reach Sniper Rifle range, so not even going to talk about it. If you want me to add something to the list, make a comment below. Anyway, the damage and range is fine. What ISN'T fine, is the way the recoil works, and damage reduction over range. The recoil right now is barely noticeable, and if you do have a problem its easy to insta remove it. That means you can put down accurate shots at any range. However, confirmed from [CCP]Wolfman from IRC, they tweaked weapon recoil slightly. Hopefully that means the recoil is no longer a problem. And the damage over range is almost fine, reduce it by 20% and it would be perfect. To the nay sayers who think no weapon should do well at any range, should check what the AR is in real life. Its a weapon that can do very well at most ranges. Also, the game weapons are balanced around the AR, nerfing it or buffing it in anyway will require them to rebalance every weapon and weapon. And we all know what can potentially happen when CCP takes the nerf or buff hammer. I have some important things to do today, so I can't do it right now. However, as soon as I can I will bring you numbers showing nothing is wrong.
Zekain Kade BetaMax. CRONOS. 1175	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:45:00 - [2] - Quote Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough.
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 428	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:45:00 - [3] - Quote Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 685	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:48:00 - [4] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine. With that much of a reduction EVERY weapon should get damage reduced outside it's range (or under for snipers an Lrs.)
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:50:00 - [5] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine. With that much of a reduction EVERY weapon should get damage reduced outside it's range (or under for snipers an Lrs.) LR's have 30% damage at close range... And if you have a problem with SR's at close range, maybe try to dodge.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 685	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:51:00 - [6] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine. With that much of a reduction EVERY weapon should get damage reduced outside it's range (or under for snipers an Lrs.) LR's have 30% damage at close range... And if you have a problem with SR's at close range, maybe try to dodge. Tell that to the people I shoot from the hip with the sniper
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:54:00 - [7] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine. With that much of a reduction EVERY weapon should get damage reduced outside it's range (or under for snipers an Lrs.) LR's have 30% damage at close range... And if you have a problem with SR's at close range, maybe try to dodge. Tell that to the people I shoot from the hip with the sniper lol I do wonder, is it like COD where the sniper shot is uber inaccurate when you're firing from the hip?
Corn In TheSkidmark Backstabbers N Cheaters Union 81	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:55:00 - [8] - Quote AR is the most spammed and also the most boring gun in the game.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 685	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:58:00 - [9] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Zekain Kade wrote: Do you know how much 20% IS? ZYou would kill the assault rifle if you did that. Just tweeking the recoil would be enough. 20% over range. The AR normal damage is fine. With that much of a reduction EVERY weapon should get damage reduced outside it's range (or under for snipers an Lrs.) LR's have 30% damage at close range... And if you have a problem with SR's at close range, maybe try to dodge. Tell that to the people I shoot from the hip with the sniper lol I do wonder, is it like COD where the sniper shot is uber accurate when you're firing from the hip?[/quote] Fixed
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 685	Posted - 2013.04.07 04:59:00 - [10] - Quote Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: AR is the most spammed and also the most boring gun in the game. So all people do is throw Ars all game?

Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:00:00 - [11] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I do wonder, is it like COD where the sniper shot is uber accurate when you're firing from the hip? Fixed[/quote] Eh, I don't remember which game it is that has sniper bullets from the hip literally hit outside of your screen.
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:00:00 - [12] - Quote Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: AR is the most spammed and also the most boring gun in the game. Its the bread and butter, everything else is designed for a niche.
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. CRONOS. 3360	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:01:00 - [13] - Quote I think its more into question that is the AR balanced amongst all the weapons in the game and you're going to find out is slightly behind the power curve vs oh say the laser rifle.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 685	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:01:00 - [14] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I do wonder, is it like COD where the sniper shot is uber accurate when you're firing from the hip? Fixed Eh, I don't remember which game it is that has sniper bullets from the hip literally hit outside of your screen.[/quote] Well while you search for it you can cross dust of the list.
Corn In TheSkidmark Backstabbers N Cheaters Union 81	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:02:00 - [15] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Corn In TheSkidmark wrote: AR is the most spammed and also the most boring gun in the game. So all people do is throw Ars all game? Yes
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:03:00 - [16] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: I do wonder, is it like COD where the sniper shot is uber accurate when you're firing from the hip? Fixed Eh, I don't remember which game it is that has sniper bullets from the hip literally hit outside of your screen. Well while you search for it you can cross dust of the list. [/quote] CCP to the rescue?
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 1039	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:04:00 - [17] - Quote AR is fine as it is....it took enough hits already. If guys aren't talking about buffing the AR or restoring it to what it was in Codex, then CCP ignore the nerf comments.
Cat Merc OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 429	Posted - 2013.04.07 05:16:00 - [18] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I think its more into question that is the AR balanced amongst all the weapons in the game and you're going to find out is slightly behind the power curve vs oh say the laser rifle. At long range. But CCP is fixing the Viziam damage, which they said is wrong.
Mobias Wyvern Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 12	Posted - 2013.07.06 03:18:00 - [19] - Quote Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets
Cat Merc Oculus Felis 1824	Posted - 2013.07.06 03:22:00 - [20] - Quote Mobias Wyvern wrote: Be your own Judge. What game looks like more fun to you? Dust.........Or this......... Planetside 2 Coming to PS4 this year 1080p Ultra settings at Night Intense Open Field Battle 100 Man Infantry Objective Push Desert Infantry Line Huge Desert Tank Battle 100 Tank Convoy 150 man Air Raid 65/0 Kill streak in the air NC Montage Planetside 2 Machinima Factions Explained Why you should Play Planetside 2 From Vets Seriously this post is months old and is buried under pages after pages. It's either a script, or he's going after all of my posts.



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