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Wigglen Tallywacker
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:10:00 -
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I don't understand it they are suppose to be a big part of this game yet they can me do easily overpowered by anyone. CCP please respond to this and give our heavys done love. Thank you for your time. |
Winscar Shinobi
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:17:00 -
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I explained it like this a while ago when this build first started.
A heavy starts as a 3, but the highest it can ever go is a 5. (In terms of how skills and equipment can increase effectiveness)
While an assault starts as a 1, but the highest it can ever go is a 10.
In the beginning heavies are near impossible to beat, but as you increase skills you can easily start taking them out.
Basically: heavies are noob friendly, hence why there is a cap to just how effective they are over time. |
Wigglen Tallywacker
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:23:00 -
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Heavys should be able to advance just like any class they shouldn't stall out while everyone else gets huge advantages. |
DUST Fiend
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:49:00 -
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Winscar Shinobi wrote:In the beginning heavies are near impossible to beat.
This is only true thanks to players being unfamiliar with heavies, not with actual gear or suits. I consistently destroy heavies of all types with militia gear of all types 
I think everyone needs to chill out about what CCP is and isn't doing until we have all the info on Uprising. |
Invading Oren
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:54:00 -
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Heavies are great in a team not solo. That's their purpose to attack with team,tank and waste bullets on panicked enemies.They're fine. |
Wigglen Tallywacker
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:55:00 -
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They aren't even adding any new heavy suits in the next build and your going to sit there and tell me heavys haven't been gimped? |
XxWarlordxX97
Internal Error.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:58:00 -
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Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:I don't understand it they are suppose to be a big part of this game yet they can me do easily overpowered by anyone. CCP please respond to this and give our heavys done love. Thank you for your time.
because heavies are awesome |
Wrath Red-Feather
Foxhound Corporation
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Posted - 2013.04.06 15:58:00 -
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I think heavies will see more love then you think. Heavies are the back bone of almost any squad. They give cover fire, destroy vehicles and lead assaults. Why wouldn't ccp show them love? |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:00:00 -
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Invading Oren wrote:(Heavies are great in a team not solo). That's their purpose to attack with team,tank and waste bullets on panicked enemies.They're fine.
not true |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:06:00 -
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The problem is that they're too forgiving early on. Someone who's been a heavy since day 1 will use them far more recklessly than someone from a lighter dropsuit that's used to playing cautiously to stay alive. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:08:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Invading Oren wrote:(Heavies are great in a team not solo). That's their purpose to attack with team,tank and waste bullets on panicked enemies.They're fine. not true
Actually, that is a very accurate representation of their role. |
DUST Fiend
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
2356
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:11:00 -
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Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:They aren't even adding any new heavy suits in the next build and your going to sit there and tell me heavys haven't been gimped?
Because Sentinels aren't new heavies |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:14:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:XxWarlordxX97 wrote:Invading Oren wrote:(Heavies are great in a team not solo). That's their purpose to attack with team,tank and waste bullets on panicked enemies.They're fine. not true Actually, that is a very accurate representation of their role.
I go solo some times |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:14:00 -
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I agree with Oren and McBob. I play a heavy, and I only ever die as a heavy when I over-extend. Heavies are mobile gun placements. When they're firing, they're very slow, which means they're best suited to holding a position, and laying down suppressing fire, rather than assaulting a position. |
XxWarlordxX97
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:16:00 -
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Laheon wrote:I agree with Oren and McBob. I play a heavy, and I only ever die as a heavy when I over-extend. Heavies are mobile gun placements. When they're firing, they're very slow, which means they're best suited to holding a position, and laying down suppressing fire, rather than assaulting a position.
can I have someone on my side |
Salt Dog 76
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:21:00 -
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I've had to dramaticly change my loadouts with B series and vk. Since assaults and everyone else are rocking proto now and its gotten tougher. We need like 1 or 2 more slots on VK1 Right now it aint worth it for the isk from A,B to VK 0,1, Lower isk price by 50,000 to 100,000 at least..... or 1 more slot and an equipment slot and lowered isk price on VK1. Or keep price ass is and add 2 slots and an equipment slot for VK0,1 isk versions only. It would be bad @ss if we could carry our own armor repper nanohive. :)
Funny thing is this how long has it been since you have seen a post about OP heavy lately.....LOL like others said when others catch up to us we will be in trouble and that time is here..... |
Salt Dog 76
Red Star.
EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:24:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:They aren't even adding any new heavy suits in the next build and your going to sit there and tell me heavys haven't been gimped? Because Sentinels aren't new heavies
Does anyone hate the VK1 heavy as much as me. for the isk it sucks. |
4447
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:28:00 -
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Laheon wrote:I agree with Oren and McBob. I play a heavy, and I only ever die as a heavy when I over-extend. Heavies are mobile gun placements. When they're firing, they're very slow, which means they're best suited to holding a position, and laying down suppressing fire, rather than assaulting a position.
Shield heavy can take a role as attacker.
Armour heavy as a support/ defence.
Armour heavies should be able to have a armour rep like a tank but should recharge a little bit faster then shield.
Some ground rules about heavies.
Don't use heavies in ambush unless it's a closed space map. |
Drifter MAGGOT
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:35:00 -
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Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:I don't understand it they are suppose to be a big part of this game yet they can me do easily overpowered by anyone. CCP please respond to this and give our heavys done love. Thank you for your time.
In my opinion if Heavies had higher levels no one would pick any other class. |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
Red Rock Consortium
474
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:42:00 -
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Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:They aren't even adding any new heavy suits in the next build and your going to sit there and tell me heavys haven't been gimped?
Just because no new heavies appeared in the latest Sisi build doesn't mean they aren't coming.
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Salt Dog 76
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.04.06 16:43:00 -
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4447 wrote:Laheon wrote:I agree with Oren and McBob. I play a heavy, and I only ever die as a heavy when I over-extend. Heavies are mobile gun placements. When they're firing, they're very slow, which means they're best suited to holding a position, and laying down suppressing fire, rather than assaulting a position. Shield heavy can take a role as attacker. Armour heavy as a support/ defence. Armour heavies should be able to have a armour rep like a tank but should recharge a little bit faster then shield. Some ground rules about heavies. Don't use heavies in ambush unless it's a closed space map.
Dont underestimate the assault hmg with dam mods, sharpshooter and good hmg proficiency. They can shoot fairly far if your aim is good, and dont hold down trigger... Freedom assault is amazing but dang its expensive. |
SoTa PoP
Internal Error.
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.04.06 17:44:00 -
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Boundless HMG is all you need.
Now - what's this talk about heavies not being assault or good at solo? Completely untrue. We're just as good at holding an objective as we are at storming one. It may take a while for us to get to location B from C - but once we do it's our spot. And we don't need 3 guns on our backs - just one spotter. If you think getting range is the answer then let's hope you brought AV nades.
I run solo mostly and still get messages sayng I picked HMG cause I have no skill with AR. Which I always respond with - why do I even have a choice of weapon if your going to QQ which I chose. |
Knight SoIaire
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2013.04.06 18:44:00 -
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Wigglen Tallywacker wrote:They aren't even adding any new heavy suits in the next build and your going to sit there and tell me heavys haven't been gimped?
Can you give us the link to the patch notes please? |
Valkreena Haederox
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.04.06 19:29:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Boundless HMG is all you need.
I run solo mostly and still get messages sayng I picked HMG cause I have no skill with AR. Which I always respond with - why do I even have a choice of weapon if your going to QQ which I chose.
I would say HMG require somewhat more skill to use than AR. They're so much less versatile and precise that you really have to structure your playstyle around the limitations. |
rpastry
Carbon 7
36
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Posted - 2013.04.06 21:42:00 -
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HMG is now a POS. Hoping for a SP reset for the 1.5 mil I sank into this now useless skill.
LR or AR FTW. |
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