DUST Search - CCP Question about scripts and farmers

Mithridates VI wrote:

Government CheeseBurger wrote:

Mithridates VI wrote:

Government CheeseBurger wrote:

Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks

Detect too much SP (people with too much SP are MCC campers), reset their SP.

That's pretty much exactly what you said.

Alright I bite. Think outside the box. Stop being narrow minded. Algorithms, percentages, databases and logs. Pretty sure CCP can figure out how to detect this without an overall skill level. I wont go into detail because, well I don't have the data to work with. Keep in mind we cant see all the data. CCP HAS DATA

Then why not say "write a script to detect AFK campers"?

I'm quite aware of the means they have to gather the data if that's what they're looking for, their equivalent of battle logs, who did what and where, the heat maps they can generate of this, etc.

Specifically saying "detect excessive SP" is silly.

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Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:25:00 - [1] - Quote Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks
Sir Petersen Valhalla Nord 115	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:29:00 - [2] - Quote How old are you dude?
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 594	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:31:00 - [3] - Quote You would use amount of SP gained as the criteria for determining who is camping the MCC? Derp.
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:36:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Petersen wrote: How old are you dude? Why do you ask?
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:40:00 - [5] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: You would use amount of SP gained as the criteria for determining who is camping the MCC? Derp. I have no idea what tools or logs they have that they could utilize But your idea is Derp
Protoman Is God Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:40:00 - [6] - Quote AFK farming is the result of the SP system voted on by the community. Had SP have been uncapped and 1 WP= 1 SP AFK farming would have never happened seeing as people would have actually had to play in order to progress their character versus passively sitting in the MCC.
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 594	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:44:00 - [7] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: You would use amount of SP gained as the criteria for determining who is camping the MCC? Derp. I have no idea what tools or logs they have that they could utilize And yet you specifically asked for them to penalise anyone with too much SP. Derp derp.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 461	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:45:00 - [8] - Quote Since when did CCP say it's an exploit? It's not what they intended, but that doesn't make it an exploit.
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:51:00 - [9] - Quote And all the farmers unite! And yet you specifically asked for them to penalise anyone with too much SP. Mithridates VI Please read it again. It says nothing to that effect. People are loosing battles because squads of farmers are camping the MCC. This puts said team at a great disadvantage. These players on the side destined to lose are potentially losing AUR gear and or fittings costing ISK. I remember CCP saying way back that anyone caught hiding in the B null cannon letter would be removed from the BETA. Have a read in the EULA I think there is a clause or two
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 07:57:00 - [10] - Quote Side note. In EVE bots happen. Its a game mechanic and its exploited. Guess what, Bots get banned. Food for thought.

Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 594	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:05:00 - [11] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks Detect too much SP (people with too much SP are MCC campers), reset their SP. That's pretty much exactly what you said.
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:09:00 - [12] - Quote Protoman Is God wrote: AFK farming is the result of the SP system voted on by the community. Had SP have been uncapped and 1 WP= 1 SP AFK farming would have never happened seeing as people would have actually had to play in order to progress their character versus passively sitting in the MCC. 100% agree. I am sure CCP is working to fix this. In hind sight let them keep there 1500 SP a game for staying up all night on meth or bath salts. They earned it by not having a life. CCP please lock this debate. MY bad
Kreayshawn Coruscanti Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz Noir. Mercenary Group 173	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:09:00 - [13] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Side note. In EVE bots happen. Its a game mechanic and its exploited. Guess what, Bots get banned. Food for thought. Yes, it makes me think extensively on how stupid you are
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3320	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:09:00 - [14] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks CCP has never announced that they consider this illegal behavior, the fact that is is unintentional does not make it illegal. Being able to camp default spawn points in Ambush certainly isn't intentional, but it certainly doesn't make it an illegal exploit. The game is still in beta, beta testers are suppose to discover these sorts of flaws so the devs can't fix it. Often the best way to get attention to a problem is to abuse it. If CCP can/does makes such a script, they should only remove the SP that was gained from MCC AFK farmers; to do a total reset would be unnecessary and uncalled for since the devs never declared that this behavior would be viewed as illegal. Most importantly, they should just fix it so that you can't farm SP on the MCC.
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:14:00 - [15] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks Detect too much SP (people with too much SP are MCC campers), reset their SP. That's pretty much exactly what you said. Alright I bite. Think outside the box. Stop being narrow minded. Algorithms, percentages, databases and logs. Pretty sure CCP can figure out how to detect this without an overall skill level. I wont go into detail because, well I don't have the data to work with. Keep in mind we cant see all the data. CCP HAS DATA
Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 381	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:16:00 - [16] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks CCP has never announced that they consider this illegal behavior, the fact that is is unintentional does not make it illegal. Being able to camp default spawn points in Ambush certainly isn't intentional, but it certainly doesn't make it an illegal exploit. The game is still in beta, beta testers are suppose to discover these sorts of flaws so the devs can't fix it. Often the best way to get attention to a problem is to abuse it. If CCP can/does makes such a script, they should only remove the SP that was gained from MCC AFK farmers; to do a total reset would be unnecessary and uncalled for since the devs never declared that this behavior would be viewed as illegal. Most importantly, they should just fix it so that you can't farm SP on the MCC. Agree +1 100% outright ban or 0 SP is harsh, my bad but you get in these games with them and It's a bit aggravating #IE
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 37	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:20:00 - [17] - Quote dont feed the troll
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Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 594	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:31:00 - [19] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks Detect too much SP (people with too much SP are MCC campers), reset their SP. That's pretty much exactly what you said. Alright I bite. Think outside the box. Stop being narrow minded. Algorithms, percentages, databases and logs. Pretty sure CCP can figure out how to detect this without an overall skill level. I wont go into detail because, well I don't have the data to work with. Keep in mind we cant see all the data. CCP HAS DATA Then why not say "write a script to detect AFK campers"? I'm quite aware of the means they have to gather the data if that's what they're looking for, their equivalent of battle logs, who did what and where, the heat maps they can generate of this, etc. Specifically saying "detect excessive SP" is silly.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 2369	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:32:00 - [20] - Quote Too many SP? Nope. Disproporitonate SP vs. kills/deaths/WP? ...maybe.

Government CheeseBurger OPERATIVES OF THE GOAT 382	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:48:00 - [21] - Quote Mithridates VI wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Mithridates VI wrote: Government CheeseBurger wrote: Just wondering if you have enough time to write a script to detect excessive SP and ISK farmers (AKA MCC campers). If so can you please reset them to 0 sp / isk on May 6 soft launch with a nice note in there in box. That or ban them for exploiting in game mechanics. That would rock! Thanks Detect too much SP (people with too much SP are MCC campers), reset their SP. That's pretty much exactly what you said. Alright I bite. Think outside the box. Stop being narrow minded. Algorithms, percentages, databases and logs. Pretty sure CCP can figure out how to detect this without an overall skill level. I wont go into detail because, well I don't have the data to work with. Keep in mind we cant see all the data. CCP HAS DATA Then why not say "write a script to detect AFK campers"? I'm quite aware of the means they have to gather the data if that's what they're looking for, their equivalent of battle logs, who did what and where, the heat maps they can generate of this, etc. Specifically saying "detect excessive SP" is silly. Opening post Edited for clarity.
Mithridates VI Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 594	Posted - 2013.04.04 08:57:00 - [22] - Quote Government CheeseBurger wrote: Opening post Edited for clarity. Cool. If they consider in an exploit, they probably will. I think they don't consider it an exploit but they definitely do not like it.


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