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Princeps Marcellus
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:12:00 -
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It was glowing, too. Has anyone else gotten this? Should I have put this in the feedback forum instead? |
Daedric Lothar
Onslaught Inc
35
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Posted - 2013.03.29 16:41:00 -
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You probably just missed. It happens to all of us. The hit boxes are fairly accurate. |
Beren Hurin
OMNI Endeavors
O.M.N.I. Initiative
310
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:06:00 -
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So the physics engine on the server compensates for both the curvature of the earth and light bending over things. Your client does not. Also your aim-dot can only point in a straight line. so while where you think you see a person and are aiming straight at them, you are actually aiming above them. This is also what lets some people seemingly shoot behind hills. |
Utsuru Kaiju
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
17
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Posted - 2013.03.29 17:43:00 -
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My favorite is when someone appears to be standing up straight on a hill, not moving, and you repeatedly shoot him in the face only to see blue shields and no damage.
Boy that's fun. I'd have three times more kills if all of my blue shield hits counted. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
166
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:02:00 -
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Daedric Lothar wrote:You probably just missed. It happens to all of us. The hit boxes are fairly accurate.
Not for snipers.
Hit detection's 50/50 for snipers... |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
63
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Posted - 2013.03.29 19:22:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:You probably just missed. It happens to all of us. The hit boxes are fairly accurate. Not for snipers. Hit detection's 50/50 for snipers...
more like 25/75. all 4 people on my squad sniping at the same target, none of us hit while he hits us, glitch or someone cheating? our 50 some odd rounds vs his 10 rounds(yea he was a bad shot) with not one of our rounds hitting and he wasn't even moving at all. |
C Saunders
Tech Guard
167
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:29:00 -
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ladwar wrote:C Saunders wrote:Daedric Lothar wrote:You probably just missed. It happens to all of us. The hit boxes are fairly accurate. Not for snipers. Hit detection's 50/50 for snipers... more like 25/75. all 4 people on my squad sniping at the same target, none of us hit while he hits us, glitch or someone cheating? our 50 some odd rounds vs his 10 rounds(yea he was a bad shot) with not one of our rounds hitting and he wasn't even moving at all.
Yeah its the hit detection screwing up. Due to the hit boxes being out of place I believe. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
320
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:31:00 -
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Not a hitbox problem. Known problem between server and client. Client thinks you hit, server doesn't, due to distance detailing. As well as some other reasons which others are much better qualified to talk about. Not a hitbox error. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
229
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:39:00 -
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Laheon wrote:Not a hitbox problem. Known problem between server and client. Client thinks you hit, server doesn't, due to distance detailing. As well as some other reasons which others are much better qualified to talk about. Not a hitbox error.
Yes, this is the correct answer. The red dot isn't entirely accurate at range. First off, the LOD of the terrain isn't drawn correctly at range, making you think you have a clear line of sight, but there's actually a hill or other piece of the terrain in the way.
Also, at extreme range, sometime you'll get a red dot even though the target is behind a thin wall, or container or other obstruction.
In either situation, you're going to miss. If it's the terrain case, you will see the blue flash. This means that the terrain is actually in the way. The solution, usually, is to get to higher ground and then fire. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2205
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Posted - 2013.03.29 20:50:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:Laheon wrote:Not a hitbox problem. Known problem between server and client. Client thinks you hit, server doesn't, due to distance detailing. As well as some other reasons which others are much better qualified to talk about. Not a hitbox error. Yes, this is the correct answer. The red dot isn't entirely accurate at range. First off, the LOD of the terrain isn't drawn correctly at range, making you think you have a clear line of sight, but there's actually a hill or other piece of the terrain in the way. Also, at extreme range, sometime you'll get a red dot even though the target is behind a thin wall, or container or other obstruction. In either situation, you're going to miss. If it's the terrain case, you will see the blue flash. This means that the terrain is actually in the way. The solution, usually, is to get to higher ground and then fire.
And when "higher ground" isn't an option, moving to one side or the other (depending on the terrain in question) will usually help. Not just a few steps though (sometimes, but usually it takes more than that). |
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crazy space 1
ZionTCD
Legacy Rising
978
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Posted - 2013.03.29 23:05:00 -
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sniping isn't broken you just fail, aim ahead of the target, it's not instant, there is travel time |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
230
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Posted - 2013.03.29 23:42:00 -
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crazy space 1 wrote:sniping isn't broken you just fail, aim ahead of the target, it's not instant, there is travel time
If, by travel time, you mean lag, then ok, but the sniper rifle, like almost all weapons in dust, is hitscan, and therefore, and instant hit or miss. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
2211
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Posted - 2013.03.30 00:46:00 -
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Buster Friently wrote:crazy space 1 wrote:sniping isn't broken you just fail, aim ahead of the target, it's not instant, there is travel time If, by travel time, you mean lag, then ok, but the sniper rifle, like almost all weapons in dust, is hitscan, and therefore, and instant hit or miss.
It's the server-side hit detection that "simulates" travel time by lag. |
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