DUST Search - Possible solution to AFK players.

sharted pantaloon wrote:

Baal Omniscient wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

Sloth9230 wrote:

Buster Friently wrote:

This is why going all passive is better. New players would earn sp on an equal footing with veterans, and afking would be eliminated.

It would also remove any satisfaction from personally training my skills. Why play Dust when I can play Pokemon for year and then comeback to find a nice pool of SP?

Why play Dust at all? It might work for EVE, but Dust isn't EVE.

Theoretically, you should be playing dust because it is fun. Extrinsic lures are a form of psychological addiction. If dust isn't fun to play, sp aside, you should move on.

That is the same logic AFK farmers are using. Except they are still doing it so that when/if Dust ever meets their standards, they can jump in with a SP pool close to what it would be if they had never left. OH, WAIT! That's exactly what would happen if it WAS all passive SP!

No to removing active SP.

So, explain to me how going all passive hurts the rest of the community. It would let those that don't find the game entertaining but are still hopeful for the next build go elsewhere and bank SP. They'd quit clogging up our uberserious pubmatches with their darn farming, so only the tryhards and the newbies would be in match. The joke will be on them when they come back with their pool of 5 million SP and realize those that were playing 23.5/7 while they were gone got a little bit better from all the practicing.

Edited to repair the longest runon sentence I've ever seen.


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Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 370	Posted - 2013.03.26 20:07:00 - [1] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: This is why going all passive is better. New players would earn sp on an equal footing with veterans, and afking would be eliminated. It would also remove any satisfaction from personally training my skills. Why play Dust when I can play Pokemon for year and then comeback to find a nice pool of SP? Why play Dust at all? It might work for EVE, but Dust isn't EVE. Theoretically, you should be playing dust because it is fun. Extrinsic lures are a form of psychological addiction. If dust isn't fun to play, sp aside, you should move on. That is the same logic AFK farmers are using. Except they are still doing it so that when/if Dust ever meets their standards, they can jump in with a SP pool close to what it would be if they had never left. OH, WAIT! That's exactly what would happen if it WAS all passive SP! No to removing active SP.
Baal Omniscient L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 370	Posted - 2013.03.26 20:58:00 - [2] - Quote sharted pantaloon wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Buster Friently wrote: Sloth9230 wrote: Buster Friently wrote: This is why going all passive is better. New players would earn sp on an equal footing with veterans, and afking would be eliminated. It would also remove any satisfaction from personally training my skills. Why play Dust when I can play Pokemon for year and then comeback to find a nice pool of SP? Why play Dust at all? It might work for EVE, but Dust isn't EVE. Theoretically, you should be playing dust because it is fun. Extrinsic lures are a form of psychological addiction. If dust isn't fun to play, sp aside, you should move on. That is the same logic AFK farmers are using. Except they are still doing it so that when/if Dust ever meets their standards, they can jump in with a SP pool close to what it would be if they had never left. OH, WAIT! That's exactly what would happen if it WAS all passive SP! No to removing active SP. So, explain to me how going all passive hurts the rest of the community. It would let those that don't find the game entertaining but are still hopeful for the next build go elsewhere and bank SP. They'd quit clogging up our uberserious pubmatches with their darn farming, so only the tryhards and the newbies would be in match. The joke will be on them when they come back with their pool of 5 million SP and realize those that were playing 23.5/7 while they were gone got a little bit better from all the practicing. Edited to repair the longest runon sentence I've ever seen. I am the MASTER of run-on sentences. If you are not interested in playing, you do not have to play, but neither should you expect to keep pace with those who are actively working to further themselves by playing this game everyday while you keep yourself busy playing other games. Getting a little better through practice is a small consolation when the guy who quit the game to go play Black Ops for 2 months comes back and is able to run the same gear as you even though you've been putting in the work every day and he's not even been in the same game. Passive SP = the game playing itself. If you are not able to actively work to improve your stats, then why play? It's a basic mentality that has grown in us for years. Old FPS games didn't mess with it, but that was also before the idea was ever seriously considered. Ever since it started to get integrated into shooters, you are seeing less and less multiplayer shooters without some sort of skilling system. Why? Because it keeps people playing your game in a market with so much competition. If you just passively gain SP, you need a LOT of other reasons or a few EXTREMELY good reasons to keep playing. You would be removing the element of working to better yourself, which courses through the veins of more than just RPG players these days. It doesn't solve any issues to keep it this way, but it would cause many more issues to switch it to passive. Not the least of which is losing a large portion of the playerbase who came here BECAUSE they want to put in the work to build their character up themselves.