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Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.03.24 14:53:00 -
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Current
Shield Control (3x) - +5% to dropsuit and vehicle maximum shield.
Field Mechanics(1x) - same bonus but to armor
I feel like training into armor is more favored than training into shields currently. Training multiplier on Shield Control should either be brought down to compare with Field Mechanics or Field Mechanics should have its training multiplier increased to compare with Shield Control. |
Cat Merc
Planetary Response Organisation
Test Friends Please Ignore
204
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:37:00 -
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Yeah, but shields are all around better for infantry.
ALWAYS.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Seriously.
I say NO until they are comparable to shields in terms of performance. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.03.24 15:54:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Yeah, but shields are all around better for infantry.
ALWAYS.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Seriously.
I say NO until they are comparable to shields in terms of performance.
I see where you're coming from but as I'm a Gunnlogi driver, it's harder to skill into shield HAVs as opposed to armor HAVs.
Perhaps split the skills into Infantry and Vehicle Shield Operation and Field Mechanics? This way infantry shields/armor will remain the way they are and vehicle armor/shield training will be more balanced. |
Tiluvo
Digital Mercs
41
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Posted - 2013.03.25 08:32:00 -
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Shields recharge automatically, hence the higher price. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
22
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Posted - 2013.03.25 09:03:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Current
Shield Control (3x) - +5% to dropsuit and vehicle maximum shield.
Field Mechanics(1x) - same bonus but to armor
The current approach is a carry over from Eve Online. The steep pre-req and 3x may be on the high side but at least it cuts back on abuses. The current layout is in part from past lessons and old feedback.
I certainly wouldn't have minded at least seeing it as a 2x skill instead. |
Rusty Shallows
Creative Killers
22
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Posted - 2013.03.25 09:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Yeah, but shields are all around better for infantry.
ALWAYS.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Seriously.
Unless you are in a Heavy suit with Field Mechanics 5 and Shield Control 3 (or anything less than 5). I lose 32 hit points going from a Heavy Type I to a Heavy Type II. |
The Robot Devil
BetaMax.
CRONOS.
24
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Posted - 2013.03.25 09:32:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Yeah, but shields are all around better for infantry.
ALWAYS.
NO EXCEPTIONS.
Seriously.
I say NO until armor is comparable to shields in terms of performance.
Except when flux grenades are being used. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
316
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Posted - 2013.03.25 10:16:00 -
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Automatic recharge, and increasing the shield hp increase the speed of recharge. |
Harpyja
DUST University
Ivy League
5
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Posted - 2013.03.25 12:59:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:Automatic recharge, and increasing the shield hp increase the speed of recharge.
Unfortunately no. Dust 514 shield recharge has a set rate as opposed to EVE where it has a set recharge time. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Unclaimed.
318
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Posted - 2013.03.25 13:14:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:Automatic recharge, and increasing the shield hp increase the speed of recharge. Unfortunately no. Dust 514 shield recharge has a set rate as opposed to EVE where it has a set recharge time.
NNNoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo \o/ |
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Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
1239
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Posted - 2013.03.25 13:55:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Current
Shield Control (3x) - +5% to dropsuit and vehicle maximum shield.
Field Mechanics(1x) - same bonus but to armor
I feel like training into armor is more favored than training into shields currently. Training multiplier on Shield Control should either be brought down to compare with Field Mechanics or Field Mechanics should have its training multiplier increased to compare with Shield Control.
Possible Alternative
Split Shield Control and Field Mechanics into Dropsuit Shield Control, Dropsuit Field Mechanics, Vehicle Shield Control, and Vehicle Field Mechanics. This way dropsuit shields/armor remain the way they are while vehicle shield/armor are more balanced with equal training multipliers.
Hmmm, why would they need to be the same ?
And if we follow your logic, then why does shield control require a LVL 4 skill before being available when field mechanics is available directly ?
The answer is : armor is the first type of defense for everybody through T1 grade suits. Shield is more fency and shield control is good as it is. And FYI, it was a X5 in a previous build. |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
694
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Posted - 2013.03.25 18:48:00 -
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Shield Extenders do not have mobility limitations. It has a higher cost because currently shield tanking has an advantage. The extra HP from armor plates may be more but if you're not able to retreat that sucker back when all else fails, it might as well be considered gone. |
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