DUST Search - A tank game mode AND nerf AV weapons

RINON114 wrote:

Heligg wrote:

Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck.

Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking.

So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome.

A good tank lasts forever and a good tanker makes it last that long. AV is notoverpowered and I will give an example as to why: Five of my teammates had swarms and I had a militia forge gun. We couldn't take down the tank below half health because the driver knew how to drive and get away before things got too hairy.

I personally feel that 6 guys dogging any fit of a tank should be able to destroy it and feel that tanks are, in this respect, horrifically overpowered. I do understand however that tanks are expensive as hell and, as such, need to be able to last a whole bunch of matches in order for the player to break even.

Take that as you will.

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Heligg Bragian Order Amarr Empire 4	Posted - 2013.03.22 21:27:00 - [1] - Quote Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome.
Daedric Lothar Onslaught Inc 18	Posted - 2013.03.22 22:14:00 - [2] - Quote At least your honest about, most people just come in and go, ARs are OVERPOWERED, but not admit to being a sniper. I salute you and give you a +1 for honesty. o7
Y0UR NAME HERE UnReaL. 655	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:14:00 - [3] - Quote Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. Hmmm never met ur tank in ambush...... Av is overpowered, however vehicles and Av have been through a lot. Tanks took many nerfs while Av took many buffs. I personally don't think they should be separated in different ambush modes, this isn't cod. If there's something bothering you, like tanks, then skill Av. I don't mean swarms level 1, I mean be that guy on your team tanks fear, but should tanks have to fear one guy? No, but they do, since 1 guy can solo a standard tank with ease and teamwork to support his actions. That is something we don't see. Tanks need buffed, teams need teamwork. I could see imposing a 2 tank team limit or something. But not until Av is fixed. I just listened to a kid last night cry on comms about how OP tanks are and how his standard swarms can't harm a tank, how his swarms should decimate it and tanks speed should be cut by 90%, At the end of our "discussion" he said, "well I've never actually tried a tank before but that's just how it should work" I think that's 90% of dusts attitudes towards vehicles.
RINON114 B.S.A.A. 67	Posted - 2013.03.23 00:38:00 - [4] - Quote Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. A good tank lasts forever and a good tanker makes it last that long. AV is notoverpowered and I will give an example as to why: Five of my teammates had swarms and I had a militia forge gun. We couldn't take down the tank below half health because the driver knew how to drive and get away before things got too hairy. I personally feel that 6 guys dogging any fit of a tank should be able to destroy it and feel that tanks are, in this respect, horrifically overpowered. I do understand however that tanks are expensive as hell and, as such, need to be able to last a whole bunch of matches in order for the player to break even. Take that as you will.
Heligg Bragian Order Amarr Empire 5	Posted - 2013.03.23 08:27:00 - [5] - Quote RINON114 wrote: Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. A good tank lasts forever and a good tanker makes it last that long. AV is notoverpowered and I will give an example as to why: Five of my teammates had swarms and I had a militia forge gun. We couldn't take down the tank below half health because the driver knew how to drive and get away before things got too hairy. I personally feel that 6 guys dogging any fit of a tank should be able to destroy it and feel that tanks are, in this respect, horrifically overpowered. I do understand however that tanks are expensive as hell and, as such, need to be able to last a whole bunch of matches in order for the player to break even. Take that as you will. Kill a tank 101: -if you are alone : Wait on a spot where the enemy tank will probably stop ( not easy to find if you never been in a tank) . Once he is there, launch AV grenades and when he escape kill it with swarm or forge. note: A tank will activate his all his defensive modules when attacked heavily. These modules have a delay to be activated again. In that delay they are very vulnerable. -If you are two or more: Wait on two different spots and kill him. Congratulation , your enemy just lost between 0.4 and 2 M ISK
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 62	Posted - 2013.03.23 13:38:00 - [6] - Quote An only tank mode would be fun but don't limit or remove them from ambush. Also, swarms and forges r fine but av nades r op. They do more damage than a railgun for goodness sake. Take away 25% dmg on them. That is all.
Draco Cerberus Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 10	Posted - 2013.03.23 14:01:00 - [7] - Quote That's like saying take 25% damage from ARs. Currently the tanks and AV seem well balanced to me. You can't just camp in a tank and hope to survive a match or people can and will blow up your tank. They seem to have a lot of firepower on the battlefield and therefore we as mercs need to be able to take them out. Nerfing AV would mean that all the guys in your corp that use AV would be unable to effectively use their AV nades or swarms or forge guns that they spent so much time leveling up to take a tank out that is targeting you and is possibly more heavily armed and armored. That is the point in a match where the team with the best AV wins, not the best tank. Don't worry, pretty soon Dust is sure to have a whole bunch more vehicles to use av nades on so chances are there won't be as many tanks on the field, or at least their will be different targets to throw them at. You might be able to sneak around the map because their are to many other vehicle type targets to choose from.
Luther Mandrix Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 55	Posted - 2013.03.23 14:02:00 - [8] - Quote Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. What are your sheild and Armor stats. It took 15 minutes with all four squads firing Forge and swarms to kill AdaptandKill I had a proto breach forge 3xComplex Damage mod Proto armor Lvl 3 Forge prof Friend take some lessons from Him. If you drive milita I will fry You ! in 2 to 3 hits
CPL Bloodstone SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 27	Posted - 2013.03.23 15:34:00 - [9] - Quote Luther Mandrix wrote: Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. What are your sheild and Armor stats. It took 15 minutes with all four squads firing Forge and swarms to kill AdaptandKill I had a proto breach forge 3xComplex Damage mod Proto armor Lvl 3 Forge prof Friend take some lessons from Him. If you drive milita I will fry You ! in 2 to 3 hits This +1 I actively hunt tanks and there are awsome tankers and horrible tankers. Some I 1 shot some i spent the wbole round pissing the. ttanker off and myself because I cant kill him/her. Balance is fine though I dont use av nades often except to kill lav trying to run me over
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 979	Posted - 2013.03.23 16:54:00 - [10] - Quote lol at tanks in ambush. I wish there was an only tank mode. But I doubt tankers will go there as most are too afraid to battle each other and woukd rather fight infantry

Deluxe Edition Like a Boss. 71	Posted - 2013.03.24 01:19:00 - [11] - Quote Heligg wrote: Yes i'm a tank guy. And i think they suck. Now we rarely see a tank last more than 5 min on the field in ambush. So AV weapons need to be nerfed. But doing that would only get us in an endless loop of nerfing and tweaking. So i'm sugesting to remove tanks from standard ambush mode and make a mode with tanks. That way , AV weapons could be nerfed. An other thing i like with this is that we would have more tanks in each game and TANK vs TANK is awesome. you sir are setting you tank up wrong if you have so much trouble... tell me what kind of tank do you drive and what modules are you using?
KalOfTheRathi CowTek 267	Posted - 2013.03.24 06:02:00 - [12] - Quote Don't bring your tank into Ambush. Leave AV alone. I would doubt if you ever use them yourself or you wouldn't be making these QQ Kitten statements. If anything the lower levels need a buff that scales with the level of HAV they are against. Most of the players don't want them in Ambush and you cannot handle the close AV attacks. Save the ISK and run the ground game. Let's see if he bites on this one.


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