Card Drunook
DoC Deck of Contractors
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Posted - 2013.03.21 23:25:00 -
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I think it might be good to spend some time discussing in detail the ideas about how voting for the DUST 514 CSM equivalent will work outside the topic that announces more or less that there will be one. So I'm going to make a separate topic for each idea that has been brought up so we can discuss them in detail. I'll try to link to the other topics in the first post of each new one.
Before discussing a few ground rules to hopefully cut down on confusion and potential chaos:
1) Please discuss only the idea this thread is for. If you don't think an idea is good, say WHY. Don't simply say another idea is better.
2) Try to be specific when pointing out flaws. Saying that something is too complicated to work is less helpful then explaining what those complications will be
3) This is a discussion about VOTING for the council, not about what it will do.If you think the council should be a paid body of elected for life members that all have veto power, please discuss it somewhere else. Not here.
4) If you think an idea there isn't a thread for should be discussed either ask for a new one or make it yourself. Place "[Voting Discussion]" at the start of the topic so we can keep them sorted. I will TRY to link to ALL such threads.
Topic on hand: Using technical means to identify individual PS3s, or households.
[url=https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=628250#post628250]I believe this is when the first idea (MAC addresses) was suggested.[/url
I see a lot of issues with using technical means but I'll hit the highlights:
1) This doesn't identify players, it identifies their HARDWARE. So it doesn't give a 1 person - 1 vote situation.
2) It requires CCP to spend effort to dig out the numbers, sort them, then verify that they are legit. And it will require them to do so for YEARS. It isn't like they are going to be able to set up a system and then just let it run. They will need to update it to deal with technical changes (hardware and software), security changes (as people hack away at the system), and potentially system changes (what happens if the PS4 or such doesn't use PSN accounts and uses something new for example).
3) The primary identifiers suggested (IP and MAC addresses) are ALREADY unsecured. Anyone with a basic technical knowledge can spend a couple minutes and learn how to do it. Even a child can find out easy to follow directions online for faking a MAC address, much less changing an IP.
4) Unless something disastrous happens DUST 514 is almost certainly going to outlive the PS3's supported life cycle. So using the PS3 itself is at best a temporary solution.
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