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Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
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Posted - 2013.03.21 06:20:00 -
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So why do missiles suck so bad? I know they were nerfed into the ground for being too good.....but seriously....they are worse than useless now. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
371
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Posted - 2013.03.21 06:32:00 -
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Why You So Louzzyy Missles?
WHY? |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.03.21 06:34:00 -
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Devs always over nerf because the only feedback that reaches their ears with enthusiasm is negative feedback.
Everybody always tells them "hey, this is broken because i dont know how to deal with it, nerf this."
No one ever tells them "Hey, this weapon is really fun to use. Great job with this, but maybe you should buff this other weapon for more interesting fights."
Humans don't want to blame their inferiorities on gameplay mechanics rather than on themselves, and devs just want the general public to approve of the bad decisions they are forcing themselves to make. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
Daringly Inserting Large Dangerous Objects
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Posted - 2013.03.21 06:45:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Why You So Louzzyy Missles?
WHY?
Y3AH WHY U SO LOUZY HUH MISSILES?
On a more serious note..... they really do nothing in a game.
Fire a Missile.....pings across your reticule and flies way off to the left. |
Rifter7
Improvise.
101
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Posted - 2013.03.21 06:53:00 -
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if they fix it i won't get to laugh at large missile fit militia tanks anymore..
no.. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:23:00 -
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I once received a headshot from a missile (must have been a militia). All shields down and a bit of armor left. Didn't killed me, had around 400 total HP. Missiles are weak vs shields so that was a very powerful shot. I really don't know how missiles can be balanced. If that thing killed me it would have been awesome but at the same time OP. It would be like having infinite amount of grenades. They really need a buff though. |
Rifter7
Improvise.
101
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:28:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I once received a headshot from a missile (must have been a militia). All shields down and a bit of armor left. Didn't killed me, had around 400 total HP. Missiles are weak vs shields so that was a very powerful shot. I really don't know how missiles can be balanced. If that thing killed me it would have been awesome but at the same time OP. It would be like having infinite amount of grenades. They really need a buff though.
was that the game where that tank showed up and we were jumping around in front of it laughing at the blast radius and hit detection of the thing? dude you got hit lol! brutal.. i didn't know it hit you that hard. |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
372
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:31:00 -
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Are large missles that bad? They look really cool shooting though :/
Lol |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
532
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:31:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:I once received a headshot from a missile (must have been a militia). All shields down and a bit of armor left. Didn't killed me, had around 400 total HP. Missiles are weak vs shields so that was a very powerful shot. I really don't know how missiles can be balanced. If that thing killed me it would have been awesome but at the same time OP. It would be like having infinite amount of grenades. They really need a buff though.
Well that was a direct impact, I assume the blast radius is weaker(swarms do 15 if I remember correctly), problem is that their radius sucks lol. |
WyrmHero1945
IMPSwarm
Negative-Feedback
58
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:32:00 -
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It was a dropship that they put above us lol. We were using LRs. |
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Rifter7
Improvise.
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:32:00 -
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i dunno like the blasts wont hit you if you jump. it's glitched or something.. i noticed it with grenades and mass drivers too. i just jump around in front of them for lols sometimes. |
Barnabas Wrex
The Tritan Industries
164
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:33:00 -
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Why not just make them like a mass driver round that flies straight? |
DJINN Marauder
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
372
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:34:00 -
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Barnabas Wrex wrote:Why not just make them like a mass driver round that flies straight?
That's what they used to be... With 500 splash dmg... Lol |
Rifter7
Improvise.
101
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:40:00 -
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WyrmHero1945 wrote:It was a dropship that they put above us lol. We were using LRs.
oh yeahhhhh in ambush.. think it was those hellstorm guys and they put the thing above the L pipe right on that ledge in the tower. we went three lasers right? that dropship was stationary. the missiles don't fly off into space when it sits still like that. |
Orenji Jiji
Seraphim Initiative.
CRONOS.
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:44:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Devs always over nerf because the only feedback that reaches their ears with enthusiasm is negative feedback.
False. People said that missiles are mostly OK, just need a small nerf on splash. The problem is that a group of morons griefed devs over IRC for weeks, until missiles got destroyed & dropships started to explode whenever wind direction changes. So if some of us had proto launchers with damage mods -- MLT guys cried "OP". We got our dmg, splash and range nerfed so badly, that people laugh at small launchers. (It's even worse with small railguns -- completely pointless weapon currently).
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Everybody always tells them "hey, this is broken because i dont know how to deal with it, nerf this."
Not everybody. Just the "I should be able to kill it with my AR" guys.
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:No one ever tells them "Hey, this weapon is really fun to use. Great job with this, but maybe you should buff this other weapon for more interesting fights."
Yet again -- we did. It's just the griefers outnumber us 10:1. And while I'm at my day job, working for monies, they're at IRC, lobbying for their nerfs.
Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Humans want to blame their inferiorities on gameplay mechanics rather than on themselves, and devs just want the general public to approve of the bad decisions they are forcing themselves to make.
It is the single most common devtrap out there and sadly one that CCP has clearly fallen into.
And this is happening for a year now. They get something almost right, a group of vocal morons moans about it being OP, opinions to the contrary are not taken into account, next build destroys the weapon. I think only QA people should have saying in "nerf this, nerf that". That's what they're getting paid for.
Also IMHO when somebody asks for nerf they should have SP invested into this to at least ADV level, so that we know they confirmed first hand it is indeed in need of nerf. Otherwise it's just "make the game easier for me, by giving skilled people disadvantage, kthxbye". The flipside is that no sane person would do this. The second flipside is that if it's OP everybody would use it. So 99% of "pls nerf" is just "I'm unable to compete, please give me handicap bonus" BS. |
Sloth9230
Reaper Galactic
532
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:49:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:WyrmHero1945 wrote:It was a dropship that they put above us lol. We were using LRs. oh yeahhhhh in ambush.. think it was those hellstorm guys and they put the thing above the L pipe right on that ledge in the tower. we went three lasers right? that dropship was stationary. the missiles don't fly off into space when it sits still like that.
Never noticed it with grenades, but apparently MDs only effect on a ground level based on the height of the impact. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
51
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Posted - 2013.03.21 07:55:00 -
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Orenji you just said yourself that a group of individuals hammered the devs on IRC for weeks and thats what made the nerf happen. So how am I wrong?
The only feedback reaching the devs ears was negative feedback. Sure, a few of you may have spoken up on behalf of missiles, but you were clearly drowned out. And positive feedback always will be drowned out. If people are happy with something, they aren't going to be on a forum talking about it, they will be in game using it.
The dust balancing devs, god bless their souls, need to develop themselves a backbone. |
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