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Tanis Jumes
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.16 03:40:00 -
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I recently posted about having fun, now I experienced the spawn camping and spawn stacking.......really CCP? I thought random spawn points would have been implemented by now. I think playing this game in small doses is best or else you realize what is really behind the curtain. |
Harkon Vysarii
Dead Six Initiative
36
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:09:00 -
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Spawn camping? Do you mean CRU camping? Yes it happens. Is it bad? No if you are stupid enough to spawn on a compromised uplink or CRU then sucks to be you.
If you mean random times when the enemy has got your whole team grouped together in one area of the map..... again sucks to be you. it should not have happened. After your whole team dies, if you took the time to wait for a few seconds after you were killed then chances are you and your team will spawn elsewhere....
If its something other than this then I have no clue what you mean by spawn camping. |
One Nip
The Alpha and the Omega Zombie Ninja Space Bears
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:34:00 -
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Tanis Jumes wrote:I recently posted about having fun, now I experienced the spawn camping and spawn stacking.......really CCP? I thought random spawn points would have been implemented by now. I think playing this game in small doses is best or else you realize what is really behind the curtain. you do know just about every game has spawn camping you just got to figure out how the spawning works |
Tanis Jumes
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:36:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Spawn camping? Do you mean CRU camping? Yes it happens. Is it bad? No if you are stupid enough to spawn on a compromised uplink or CRU then sucks to be you.
If you mean random times when the enemy has got your whole team grouped together in one area of the map..... again sucks to be you. it should not have happened. After your whole team dies, if you took the time to wait for a few seconds after you were killed then chances are you and your team will spawn elsewhere....
If its something other than this then I have no clue what you mean by spawn camping.
Spawn Camping - Purposely sitting just outside of enemy objective while waiting for a player to spawn and then kill him without any warning.
I don't know how to simplify it anymore. Other games seem to understand that you don't spawn a player in one continuous place. DUST isn't those games but I imagine CCP would take a hint by now... Now quit squawking at me and realize you weenie. durp |
Tanis Jumes
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:39:00 -
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One Nip wrote:Tanis Jumes wrote:I recently posted about having fun, now I experienced the spawn camping and spawn stacking.......really CCP? I thought random spawn points would have been implemented by now. I think playing this game in small doses is best or else you realize what is really behind the curtain. you do know just about every game has spawn camping you just got to figure out how the spawning works
Yes I do, but even those games randomized during their Betas. I love when people do this, it further justifies my point.......weenie
I click LIKE on yours because you were less bitchy and more straight to the point. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:41:00 -
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CCP have been working on this for a while. Give it time, it's open beta, and it's their first FPS. Mistakes are bound to be made, cut them some slack. |
Tanis Jumes
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2013.03.16 04:43:00 -
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Laheon wrote:CCP have been working on this for a while. Give it time, it's open beta, and it's their first FPS. Mistakes are bound to be made, cut them some slack.
Very true. I like you better now and despise you less. And so you get a like! |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
132
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Posted - 2013.03.16 05:27:00 -
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Tanis Jumes wrote:Harkon Vysarii wrote:Spawn camping? Do you mean CRU camping? Yes it happens. Is it bad? No if you are stupid enough to spawn on a compromised uplink or CRU then sucks to be you.
If you mean random times when the enemy has got your whole team grouped together in one area of the map..... again sucks to be you. it should not have happened. After your whole team dies, if you took the time to wait for a few seconds after you were killed then chances are you and your team will spawn elsewhere....
If its something other than this then I have no clue what you mean by spawn camping. Spawn Camping - Purposely sitting just outside of enemy objective while waiting for a player to spawn and then kill him without any warning. I don't know how to simplify it anymore. Other games seem to understand that you don't spawn a player in one continuous place. DUST isn't those games but I imagine CCP would take a hint by now... Now quit squawking at me and realize you weenie. durp
Your reply would suggest that you are talking about spawncamping on a Skirmish map lets say objective A.
Those spawnings, from my observations, are somewhat random but only within limited/selected points in vicinity of that objective. So that could be improved.
But to spawn on a compromised uplink/CRU/objective, you have made a decision to take that risk of getting killed. So it's your choise to spawn there. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
219
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:10:00 -
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Tanis Jumes wrote:I recently posted about having fun, now I experienced the spawn camping and spawn stacking.......really CCP? I thought random spawn points would have been implemented by now. I think playing this game in small doses is best or else you realize what is really behind the curtain.
Why do people insist on acting like dust is the only game where players spawn trap? Wierd tbh. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
2062
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Posted - 2013.03.16 09:15:00 -
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Harkon Vysarii wrote:Spawn camping? Do you mean CRU camping? Yes it happens. Is it bad? No if you are stupid enough to spawn on a compromised uplink or CRU then sucks to be you.
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Unfortunately, the spawn system still attempts to spawn you near your allies, so even if you click square to go to default spawn, you will often spawn in at the CRU anyways |
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Medic 1879
The Tritan Industries
60
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Posted - 2013.03.16 10:24:00 -
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I find it amusing when an objective is under attack/being hacked and you spawn at a different one so as not to die instantly and then rush the objective under attack, Only to spawn facing the back of the guy sat watching a random objective waiting for people to spawn.
Happens quite often especially funny when you then get a message from the guy you killed calling you a camper when later on in the game you notice the same guy in the same spot but I am the camper for respawning.
Personally I think camping an enemy CRU till they learn to stop respawning there is a valid tactic however on a map with 5 objectives sitting watching the one closest to the enemy MCC waiting for someone to spawn but not hacking just waiting is a rather rubbish idea, I mean your only going to get people who spawn there by accident or need to spawn there to flank. Also if someone discovers your camping spot and kills you there returning as fast as possible = bad idea. |
KripnawtiQ Prime
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
219
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Posted - 2013.03.16 10:52:00 -
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Medic 1879 wrote:I find it amusing when an objective is under attack/being hacked and you spawn at a different one so as not to die instantly and then rush the objective under attack, Only to spawn facing the back of the guy sat watching a random objective waiting for people to spawn.
Happens quite often especially funny when you then get a message from the guy you killed calling you a camper when later on in the game you notice the same guy in the same spot but I am the camper for respawning.
Personally I think camping an enemy CRU till they learn to stop respawning there is a valid tactic however on a map with 5 objectives sitting watching the one closest to the enemy MCC waiting for someone to spawn but not hacking just waiting is a rather rubbish idea, I mean your only going to get people who spawn there by accident or need to spawn there to flank. Also if someone discovers your camping spot and kills you there returning as fast as possible = bad idea.
DUST=game for campers. Just look at all the players that spawn in sniper gear imediately on skrim maps. It has nothing to do with tactics. They just want to hide as far away as possible from whats actually going on.
DUST is a camping game. |
OryanRyan
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.03.16 11:46:00 -
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KripnawtiQ Prime wrote:
DUST=game for campers. Just look at all the players that spawn in sniper gear imediately on skrim maps. It has nothing to do with tactics. They just want to hide as far away as possible from whats actually going on.
DUST is a camping game.
I'm in total agreement with you here.
I hear players swearing at other players for actually trying to take cru's and objectives, because they are getting easy kills, and flipping/hacking it disrupts this easy kill mode. (generic arrogant corp, I'm looking at you)
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Three Double-A Batteries
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2013.03.16 12:58:00 -
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Laheon wrote:CCP have been working on this for a while. Give it time, it's open beta, and it's their first FPS. Mistakes are bound to be made, cut them some slack. Would five years or so of slack make you happy? Just trying to gauge your tolerance. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1698
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Posted - 2013.03.16 13:45:00 -
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Spawn camping is unavoidable regardless of how well done any system is. This is because any player who has any level of intelligence will figure out eventually where players usually spawn even in a supposedly random system. |
Laheon
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
162
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Posted - 2013.03.16 16:25:00 -
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Three Double-A Batteries wrote:Laheon wrote:CCP have been working on this for a while. Give it time, it's open beta, and it's their first FPS. Mistakes are bound to be made, cut them some slack. Would five years or so of slack make you happy? Just trying to gauge your tolerance.
Try a year. The first few years would have been spent coming up with ideas e.g. weapons, dropsuits, integration with EvE, lore, etc. Not to mention adapting the engine, aswell as working on graphics, meshes, maps, game modes, etc.
Now, CCP's size. The main thing. CCP isn't EA or Activision. They can't afford to have an in-company beta testing division. Not to mention that the number of games they put out don't warrant it. Hence, they rely on their customer base to test for them. Spawn camping came up as a major issue around July/August, when the merc pack went on sale. It, however, takes time to fix, as writing code doesn't happen overnight.
As you probably know, they already have teams working on it, and ideas in order to fix it. So, watch this space. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax. CRONOS.
3110
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Posted - 2013.03.16 16:26:00 -
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I love CRU camping, and drop uplink camping too from the same guy over and over and over again... |
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