DUST Search - Large Mortars to Counter Railguns

Oxskull Duncarino wrote:

RECON BY FIRE wrote:

Charlotte O'Dell wrote:

RECON BY FIRE wrote:

Mortars are not the same as artillery, just an FYI. As such they would not exceed the range of a railgun. If anything they would match it, but would probably be closer to mass driver range on our current maps. It would also need to be rotatable to some degree or else when you notice your rounds are landing beside the target you would be able to do nothing about it.

Types of artillery:
Guns: think of the 120mm cannon on the M1 abrams. Mostly straight trajectory.
Howitzers: The modern M777. A medium between the gum and the morter.
Morter: the 81mm morter of today. Very steep trajectory.

All are technically artillery, though howitzers claim most of the fame. These weapons could be extremely powerful with a good crew (gunner, spotter, at a high altitude to adjust fire, and a forward observer embedded in the the infantry to request fire. No longer would railguns dominate if.they couldn't return fire bc LOS isn't necessary anymore

Dear baby Jesus, everyone is always an expert on military stuff arent they? The main gun on an Abrams is not artillery, it is a tank cannon that does not lob its ammunition. Mortars are man-portable, have much shorter range, and are not artillery. Only artillery is artillery, howizter is simply another name for a piece of artillery.

Ya might want to have a read into mortars. They come in both smaller infantry transported and larger self propelled versions.


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Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 43	Posted - 2013.03.14 14:42:00 - [1] - Quote A good railgun tank in the red line is unkillable- even by orbital strikes. If we had large mortar turrets to make areas that tanks us for cover dangerous, forcing railguns to leave cover.
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 43	Posted - 2013.03.14 15:12:00 - [2] - Quote It is artillery. But it needs to be completely useless at close range or it'll be overpowered. It should be able to shoot so high and far, that spotters/forward observers become necessary. It should have a minimum range of 50m The power of the charge and angle of barrel should be controllable. In exchange, the turret does not rotate so L/R on the right stick increases power and U/D changes angle of barrel. Range should exceed that of railgun and come in different varieties: Suppression: 200dmg. 8m blast. 15 rounds/minute Seige: 650dmg. 3.5m blast. 12 rounds/minute Rapid: 180dmg. 3m blast. 22 rounds/minute.
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 44	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:00:00 - [3] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Mortars are not the same as artillery, just an FYI. As such they would not exceed the range of a railgun. If anything they would match it, but would probably be closer to mass driver range on our current maps. It would also need to be rotatable to some degree or else when you notice your rounds are landing beside the target you would be able to do nothing about it. Types of artillery: Guns: think of the 120mm cannon on the M1 abrams. Mostly straight trajectory. Howitzers: The modern M777. A medium between the gum and the morter. Morter: the 81mm morter of today. Very steep trajectory. All are technically artillery, though howitzers claim most of the fame. These weapons could be extremely powerful with a good crew (gunner, spotter, at a high altitude to adjust fire, and a forward observer embedded in the the infantry to request fire. No longer would railguns dominate if.they couldn't return fire bc LOS isn't necessary anymore
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 44	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:02:00 - [4] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: The artillery piece that you describe is a howitzer. Excellent weapons that nowadays have ones mounted on a mobile firing platform that can fulfil most combat artillery roles from direct fire to indirect fire. It's the direction I'd like to see the mobile artillery in Dust to go. I agree for the most part, but mobile artillery are usually to lightlu armored to duke it out with.tanks and live. It's range should come at the cost of HUGE (1400) PG requirements
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 44	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:06:00 - [5] - Quote RECON BY FIRE wrote: Mortars are not the same as artillery, just an FYI. As such they would not exceed the range of a railgun. If anything they would match it, but would probably be closer to mass driver range on our current maps. It would also need to be rotatable to some degree or else when you notice your rounds are landing beside the target you would be able to do nothing about it. Ok, turrets get to rotate, but these tanks need at least double range of railguns.
Charlotte O'Dell Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 44	Posted - 2013.03.14 17:45:00 - [6] - Quote Oxskull Duncarino wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: Charlotte O'Dell wrote: RECON BY FIRE wrote: Mortars are not the same as artillery, just an FYI. As such they would not exceed the range of a railgun. If anything they would match it, but would probably be closer to mass driver range on our current maps. It would also need to be rotatable to some degree or else when you notice your rounds are landing beside the target you would be able to do nothing about it. Types of artillery: Guns: think of the 120mm cannon on the M1 abrams. Mostly straight trajectory. Howitzers: The modern M777. A medium between the gum and the morter. Morter: the 81mm morter of today. Very steep trajectory. All are technically artillery, though howitzers claim most of the fame. These weapons could be extremely powerful with a good crew (gunner, spotter, at a high altitude to adjust fire, and a forward observer embedded in the the infantry to request fire. No longer would railguns dominate if.they couldn't return fire bc LOS isn't necessary anymore Dear baby Jesus, everyone is always an expert on military stuff arent they? The main gun on an Abrams is not artillery, it is a tank cannon that does not lob its ammunition. Mortars are man-portable, have much shorter range, and are not artillery. Only artillery is artillery, howizter is simply another name for a piece of artillery. Ya might want to have a read into mortars. They come in both smaller infantry transported and larger self propelled versions. A tank is a cannon on a carriage. Cannons shot straight forward in history. Artillery, technically describes any large gun. Thr sub-classes describe trajectory.